Hacking [Release] 0-key movable.sed 『No more CIA installation!!!』

[metroid maniac]

Is it possible to encrypt a 3ds title on a PC using a particular console's movable.sed, so (assuming the ticket is installed) you can simply copy that title onto the SD card and it will run without needing to do a .cia install?

 

[cearp]

Is it possible to encrypt a 3ds title on a PC using a particular console's movable.sed, so (assuming the ticket is installed) you can simply copy that title onto the SD card and it will run without needing to do a .cia install?

i mean it must be technically possible, but yeah i don't think anyone has made anything to do that...

 

[astronautlevel]

Is it possible to encrypt a 3ds title on a PC using a particular console's movable.sed, so (assuming the ticket is installed) you can simply copy that title onto the SD card and it will run without needing to do a .cia install?

That's actually a really interesting idea!

A program that could encrypt a game given a movable.sed would be awesome, but there's probably some technical reason that can't happen, otherwise I think it'd be done by now...

 

[metroid maniac]

That's actually a really interesting idea!

A program that could encrypt a game given a movable.sed would be awesome, but there's probably some technical reason that can't happen, otherwise I think it'd be done by now...

I just checked 3dbrew.
Looks like the KeyX for SD encryption is set by bootrom so we can't find any normalkeys for offline encryption/decryption unless the bootrom is dumped.

 

[LoDeus]

Is there any video tutorial for that? Seems there isn't any on youtube when I type for it :/

 

[Boogieboo6]

Is there any video tutorial for that? Seems there isn't any on youtube when I type for it :/

My personal rule is that if @DarkFlare69 didn't make it, I don't follow it. Find one by him or don't find one at all.

 

[elBenyo]

When, hopefully, the 3DS bootrom gets dumped CFW will be able to ignore console specific signature for installs, or at least they will be universally decryptable on a PC. The maker of TikSweep makes a ticket installer that installs every ticket available but when using a CIA the ticket in already included, so if you had every ticket you would be using eShop for fileless installs. If you still need a CIA for the first install I don't see much point.

 

[uyjulian]

It would be nice if games/savedata on SD were decrypted and not keyed to particular console

Also decrypted emuNAND

That would extend SD lifetime

 

[elBenyo]

Decrypted emuNand would extend the SD life?

 

[OrGoN3]

I just checked 3dbrew.
Looks like the KeyX for SD encryption is set by bootrom so we can't find any normalkeys for offline encryption/decryption unless the bootrom is dumped.

And bootrom is dumped.

Is the point of 0-key movable.sed for a way to play without CFW? A way to back up your games and restoring them without needing to reinstall? Or for sharing game folders once tickets are installed? I never could quite figure that one out.

Also, another confusion. How would one install the tickets to their system without a CFW?

 

[metroid maniac]

Is the point of 0-key movable.sed for a way to play without CFW?

No, that's completely unrelated.

A way to back up your games and restoring them without needing to reinstall?

You can already do that somewhat.

Or for sharing game folders once tickets are installed?

Ding ding ding. Two consoles with the same movable.sed key can use the same game folder from on the SD card.
Now that we have the bootroms, the information needed to convert a .cia to an installed SD card folder is known.

 

[OrGoN3]

No, that's completely unrelated.

You can already do that somewhat.

Ding ding ding. Two consoles with the same movable.sed key can use the same game folder from on the SD card.
Now that we have the bootroms, the information needed to convert a .cia to an installed SD card folder is known.

Ok, so being able to play without CFW is just a side-effect.
How can I already backup my games and restore them without doing a nand backup?

Sure. So I'd assume there is a site dedicated to 0-key'd games? Or is it so that you can swap SD cards with a friend IRL and play their games?

 

[metroid maniac]

Ok, so being able to play without CFW is just a side-effect.
How can I already backup my games and restore them without doing a nand backup?

Sure. So I'd assume there is a site dedicated to 0-key'd games? Or is it so that you can swap SD cards with a friend IRL and play their games?

No, being able to play without CFW would not be possible with this.
You just need to copy the Nintendo 3DS folder off the SD card. If you want to copy individual games, copy only the subfolders that match the title ID.

I think OP suggested making a site like that, but I'm not sure. Swapping SD cards IRL is definitely possible, but it requires that you both have the same movable.sed key, which means at least one of you is going to have to format the console.

 

[OrGoN3]

No, being able to play without CFW would not be possible with this.
You just need to copy the Nintendo 3DS folder off the SD card. If you want to copy individual games, copy only the subfolders that match the title ID.

I think OP suggested making a site like that, but I'm not sure. Swapping SD cards IRL is definitely possible, but it requires that you both have the same movable.sed key, which means at least one of you is going to have to format the console.

I guess I misread "With this 0-key file, your console will boot without CFW.". What did he mean by this?

If I use 0-key movable.sed and so do you, are our movable.seds the same?

 

[metroid maniac]

I guess I misread "With this 0-key file, your console will boot without CFW.". What did he mean by this?

If I use 0-key movable.sed and so do you, are our movable.seds the same?

This won't brick your console if you edit sysnand movable.sed and you're not using a9lh or b9s.

The movable.sed key would be the same, which is the revlevant part. There's other stuff in movable.sed which you shouldn't tamper with.
If we're both using the same key, then we can exchange SD card content (assuming tickets are installed).

 

[OrGoN3]

This won't brick your console if you edit sysnand movable.sed and you're not using a9lh or b9s.

The movable.sed key would be the same, which is the revlevant part. There's other stuff in movable.sed which you shouldn't tamper with.
If we're both using the same key, then we can exchange SD card content (assuming tickets are installed).

Yeah, the whole point of me asking was for 2 people using 0-key.
Thanks for the info!
I wonder. How do you guys use 0-key? Backing up games more easily? Or sharing with people?

 

[metroid maniac]

Yeah, the whole point of me asking was for 2 people using 0-key.
Thanks for the info!
I wonder. How do you guys use 0-key? Backing up games more easily? Or sharing with people?

I haven't used it personally, so I can't say.
My own idea for this trick was to copy the existing movable.sed key (not a 0-key) from my old 3DS to a new one, if I ever got one. That way I could easily move all my content across.

 

[OrGoN3]

I haven't used it personally, so I can't say.
My own idea for this trick was to copy the existing movable.sed key (not a 0-key) from my old 3DS to a new one, if I ever got one. That way I could easily move all my content across.

Is no part of the movable.sed console specific? Or you just mean the key inside of it?

 

[metroid maniac]

Is no part of the movable.sed console specific? Or you just mean the key inside of it?

I just mean the key.
There's nothing special about a 0-key, compared to any other movable.sed key. It's just a convenient common denominator for a large number of people to agree upon for sharing SD content.
If you're doing it personally, you might as well reuse one of the keys already present on one console.

 

[OrGoN3]

I just mean the key.
There's nothing special about a 0-key, compared to any other movable.sed key. It's just a convenient common denominator for a large number of people to agree upon for sharing SD content.
If you're doing it personally, you might as well reuse one of the keys already present on one console.

Last one. Where in the movable.sed is the key?