The situation in Ukraine...

[djpannda]

Awe bitch...Don't get mad. Your hella stupid. I'll leave it at that. Keep ignoring what's really going on all you want. Good luck sucka.

… you know poeple who never actually backup crazy shit they say and just move on to the next talking point when challenged

Did I call it lol.. after being by challenged, they coward and defensively try to change the subject.. ..again who was Indicted with Ties with the former Flotus?

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Except anything that would actually approve people's lives, would have you spamming the words socialism and communism at it.

Oh really? And what specifically has been done since you know who took office that has improved anyone's life, at all?

 

[Donnie-Burger]

Did I call it lol.. after being by challenged, they coward and defensively try to change the subject.. ..again who was Indicted with Ties with the former Flotus?

Just like I called it IGNORANT AF = the 3% we were warned about a while back. Look it up it's everywhere now. Truth always circles back. Hillary n gang are fucked. Don't matter if I believe, don't matter if you believe it. Federal court going down now, look it up if you want real news. Keep on blah blah blah'N bullshit, wont make a difference.

Hillary was nowhere for 2 years
Out of nowhere Hillary resurfaces like a TURD
She gets shot down with a torpedo
Obama scared out of his mind right now
Imagine all the ratting / backstabbing happening

Cry all you want, scream fake all you want, It's finally here ya sick fucks!

 

[djpannda]

Oh really? And what specifically has been done since you know who took office that has improved anyone's life, at all?

Oh really? And what specifically has been done since you know who took office that has improved anyone's life, at all?

Several bridges and roads near me have/ in process of being repaired after years of neglect because of Biden’s infrastructure bill .. in fact Thousand of bridge and roads have already been fixed. Thanx Prez.
Biden: Notorious Bridge May Finally Get Fix in $1T Bil
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...ge-may-finally-get-fix-in-1t-bill?context=amp

 

[djpannda]

Just like I called it IGNORANT AF = the 3% we were warned about a while back. Look it up it's everywhere now. Truth always circles back. Hillary n gang are fucked. Don't matter if I believe, don't matter if you believe it. Federal court going down now, look it up if you want real news. Keep on blah blah blah'N bullshit, wont make a difference.

Hillary was nowhere for 2 years
Out of nowhere Hillary resurfaces like a TURD
She gets shot down with a torpedo
Obama scared out of his mind right now
Imagine all the ratting / backstabbing happening

Cry all you want, scream fake all you want, It's finally here ya sick fucks!

please provide details and court/indictment of your day dreams. Lol I’m really waiting for you to claim the Pope was in on it .. lol

… all been indicted? … please name some? I think you might need to back up your fictitious claims.

 

[MadonnaProject]

Isn't it interesting how only very specific topics get any interest in this forum?

Yes. The woke topics. The anti trump topics etc. But throughout history you'll often find mediocrity is accepted by the masses as there would only be a few naysayers. Its how humanity works unfortunately.

For example you'll find 3 things readily accepted these days. Black oppression. Climate Crisis. Any anything black related that is not overtly gushing.

 

[Xzi]

For example you'll find 3 things readily accepted these days. Black oppression. Climate Crisis.

So...history (which influences the present) and science/technology? Yeah, most people do readily accept those things. OTOH, people who want to erase the former because they're embarrassed/ashamed of it, and entirely ignore what the latter is telling us are pathetic.

/offtopic tirade

 

[MadonnaProject]

So...history (which influences the present) and science/technology? Yeah, most people do readily accept those things. OTOH, people who want to erase the former because they're embarrassed/ashamed of it, and entirely ignore what the latter is telling us are pathetic.

/offtopic tirade

Question, how long does one blame history for ills they have suffered? How many generations does it take?

People who think black history is one of oppression are ignorant to black empires that have existed throughout millennia. These are are mostly western, especially american people who do not know about black history and focus on one chunk of it ie slavery.

No one ever attempted to erase history such as slavery. I think people like you who gaslight (falsely-interpret) people as trying to erase history are only doing so because you think you can shift the focus and also because you don't have a real counter point to make. Especially because you know I am right.

As someone of the black community, I know there are issues which are cultural and social which plague our community and no one is to blame for it nor can change it. Because positive change sometimes comes from within.

The issue with the american and western black community is not only do we try to blame others for our shortcomings, we also try to get them to feel bad about it and be apologetic about it. We have largely achieved this brainwashing and we are still not happy. We want our issues to be celebrated and embraced.

 

[Xzi]

People who think black history is one of oppression are ignorant to black empires that have existed throughout millennia.

Heck, they even had a place called "black wall street" in the US at one point! I wonder what ever happened to that...

No one ever attempted to erase history such as slavery.

Every thumb-shaped boomer yelling at schools about teaching CRT and which books they should burn is trying to erase the history of slavery in the US. And erase their part in supporting discrimination even long after slavery was abolished.

As someone of the black community ... we try to blame others for our shortcomings, we also try to get them to feel bad about it and be apologetic about it.

Pressing X to doubt. There are individuals of all races who blame others for their problems, but nobody talks about their community as a monolith that way. The issues black people have with law enforcement and the justice system are systemic. Put simply: the North won the Civil War, the South won reconstruction. It's not a coincidence that the thirteenth amendment exists as it does, and that America has as many people (disproportionately black) in jail as it does.

 

[MadonnaProject]

Heck, they even had a place called "black wall street" in the US at one point! I wonder what ever happened to that...

How long ago? When does the damage from it end? is every black man woman and child suffering from the leftover hurt from this? How long will it take to recover from it? So all the thugs in the streets stabbing each other, dealing drugs, are in that position because there was a "black wall street". If the damage is segregation then how is BET any different?

Every thumb-shaped boomer yelling at schools about teaching CRT and which books they should burn is trying to erase the history of slavery in the US. And erase their part in supporting discrimination even long after slavery was abolished.

It isn't only boomers against CRT. It may as well be called "victim training". Also insulting the looks of "boomers" is low-intellect. To assume all boomers are racist is also not the stuff of the intelligent. Do you stereotype everyone but expect them not to do the same to you? You must be american and black.

Pressing X to doubt. There are individuals of all races who blame others for their problems, but nobody talks about their community as a monolith that way. The issues black people have with law enforcement and the justice system are systemic. Put simply: the North won the Civil War, the South won reconstruction. It's not a coincidence that the thirteenth amendment exists as it does, and that America has as many people (disproportionately black) in jail as it does.

Actually NOOOOOOOOOO. Examples:

Chinese - Hundreds of years of oppression by their own and invaders. Until 40 years ago they were poor, downtrodden and pretty much wrecked. Look at them now, a world power.

Russians - Revolution after revolution, upheaval after upheaval. Oppression the sort the blacks in america have never imagined. (cannibalism in europe was a thing around the 1st world war and even after). Look how they're doing now.

Indians - Forget the religious wars, they were invaded, conquered and ransacked by the British for all their resources and then left abandoned. They're a world power. The south asian community statistically gets the most racist abuse anywhere. You seldom hear them whinge as much do you?

Why is it no matter where you go the black community is the loudest to shout oppression? Why is it crime statistics, rape statistics, murder statistics, drug dealing statistics, illegitimacy statistics are the highest amongst the black race?

In London drug dealing and stabbing is the highest in the world at the moment. It is almost exclusively a black-carribeano-africano issue.

As I said. I am part of the community. I was not raised to believe I am how I am because the world is against me. The black experience will never improve unless we change from within.

Yet we expect the world to accept our shortcomings without improving. We belittle anyone who does not follow our trends and culture. We listen to music laden with drugs and every disgusting vice man can think of. We treat our women as pieces of meat.

You travel the world and you are almost embarrassed of the state of black society and culture. We stick out like a sore thumb wherever we go, not because the world is racist to us but because we behave in this manner. You can tell someone is black by the way they speak or even type sometimes. Look at you. Most of what you've said is angry and plain "schoolboy insults". I assure you, no other race speaks of behaves like us. There's a reason why.

Come on man. Come on.

 

[Dakitten]

How long ago? When does the damage from it end? is every black man woman and child suffering from the leftover hurt from this? How long will it take to recover from it? So all the thugs in the streets stabbing each other, dealing drugs, are in that position because there was a "black wall street". If the damage is segregation then how is BET any different?

It isn't only boomers against CRT. It may as well be called "victim training". Also insulting the looks of "boomers" is low-intellect. To assume all boomers are racist is also not the stuff of the intelligent. Do you stereotype everyone but expect them not to do the same to you? You must be american and black.

Actually NOOOOOOOOOO. Examples:

Chinese - Hundreds of years of oppression by their own and invaders. Until 40 years ago they were poor, downtrodden and pretty much wrecked. Look at them now, a world power.

Russians - Revolution after revolution, upheaval after upheaval. Oppression the sort the blacks in america have never imagined. (cannibalism in europe was a thing around the 1st world war and even after). Look how they're doing now.

Indians - Forget the religious wars, they were invaded, conquered and ransacked by the British for all their resources and then left abandoned. They're a world power. The south asian community statistically gets the most racist abuse anywhere. You seldom hear them whinge as much do you?

Why is it no matter where you go the black community is the loudest to shout oppression? Why is it crime statistics, rape statistics, murder statistics, drug dealing statistics, illegitimacy statistics are the highest amongst the black race?

In London drug dealing and stabbing is the highest in the world at the moment. It is almost exclusively a black-carribeano-africano issue.

As I said. I am part of the community. I was not raised to believe I am how I am because the world is against me. The black experience will never improve unless we change from within.

Yet we expect the world to accept our shortcomings without improving. We belittle anyone who does not follow our trends and culture. We listen to music laden with drugs and every disgusting vice man can think of. We treat our women as pieces of meat.

You travel the world and you are almost embarrassed of the state of black society and culture. We stick out like a sore thumb wherever we go, not because the world is racist to us but because we behave in this manner. You can tell someone is black by the way they speak or even type sometimes. Look at you. Most of what you've said is angry and plain "schoolboy insults". I assure you, no other race speaks of behaves like us. There's a reason why.

Come on man. Come on.

This seems to be solid proof that you can belong to a minority group while still being (likely willfully) ignorant of the problems they face. Sad stuff, really.

 

[Xzi]

How long ago? When does the damage from it end?

Not as long ago as you'd like to believe, I'm sure. Do a little research on it and why/how it came to an end.

It isn't only boomers against CRT.

Yeah it pretty much is. You gotta have lead poisoning to believe we should be teaching a censored, white-washed version of US history in high school.

Actually NOOOOOOOOOO. Examples:

Bruh, are you seriously trying to have a dick-measuring contest over which ethnic/racial group has been the most oppressed historically? Both irrelevant and not a good look.

You travel the world and you are almost embarrassed of the state of black society and culture.

Maybe if you're Bill Cosby. Pretty easy to recognize the massive contributions black people have made to art, music, and literature otherwise. Rock/hard rock is my favorite genre, and it absolutely would not exist if not for the black community creating blues.

Look at you. Most of what you've said is angry and plain "schoolboy insults". I assure you, no other race speaks of behaves like us. There's a reason why.

LOL I'm pale as a paper plate in a snowstorm my friend, and at this point I'm 95% sure you are too.

 

[MadonnaProject]

This seems to be solid proof that you can belong to a minority group while still being (likely willfully) ignorant of the problems they face. Sad stuff, really.

Go be irrelevant elsewhere.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Jesus I should stop coming to this section of the site lest my IQ goes any lower and I become brain dead.

 

[MadonnaProject]

Yeah it pretty much is. You gotta have lead poisoning to believe we should be teaching a censored, white-washed version of US history in high school.

History is actually pretty simple. Those who conflate it as something complicated are shoe-horning their agenda. The caucasian British colonised most of the world. They annexed what became the United States (mostly) from the native americans. Black slaves were gifted and sometimes sold to them by african tribal leaders who had a history of slavery which continues to this day. The white slave owners defcted against the crown and won independence. They later also abolished slavery.

Pretty similar to what they did in Australia, India, new Zealand and Africa. (yet how many of these ex-slaves bitch about slavery? One guess, our kind).

Bruh, are you seriously trying to have a dick-measuring contest over which ethnic/racial group has been the most oppressed historically? Both irrelevant and not a good look.

No. There's no "bruh" here. No one is "dick-measuring". This is why its hopeless having a conversation with people like you. Life is not always about dick-measuring, big-butts, who has more hoes, who can spit verbs etc etc etc. I am only stating my opinion and whilst it might contrast yours, this is what discussions are made of. There's no need to win because its not a competition.

Stop deliberately missing my point. Which is, every race has had terrible oppression to deal with at one point or another. Yet only us blacks go on about it non-stop.

Maybe if you're Bill Cosby. Pretty easy to recognize the massive contributions black people have made to art, music, and literature otherwise. Rock/hard rock is my favorite genre, and it absolutely would not exist if not for the black community creating blues.

So the 6 string guitar which was created by an Italian, the electric guitar created by Fender and co, and the drum created by ancient china, would have simply not have led to anything resembling rock?

The african had to come along and wail and holler, singing about their "woes" and poof suddenly you have metallica?

Come on man, let's please stop being feeble. Black people have invented a lot of things, just be factual about the stuff.

Saying black people invented rock is such a weak connection, its like saying black people invented singing because they happened to yawn.

The factual and fair thing to say is "Black people contributed to rock and music greatly, as did others".

LOL I'm pale as a paper plate in a snowstorm my friend, and at this point I'm 95% sure you are too.

No one cares or should care what skin colour we are. That is my point. The fact you're obsessed with skin, whether light or dark illustrates the issue.

P.S: You're 5% correct. How does it feel?

 

[Xzi]

The white slave owners defcted against the crown and won independence. They later also abolished slavery.

They abolished slavery after they lost a very long and bloody war against their own countrymen who had to force them to. Additionally, it didn't stay abolished, as the thirteenth amendment allows for slavery as punishment for a crime (no matter how minor). See how easy it was for you to white-wash history by leaving out important details?

There's no need to win because its not a competition.

And yet you needlessly tried to make slavery and discrimination against blacks throughout history the "loser" by attempting to belittle it against other historical atrocities. Ever heard the saying, "two wrongs don't make a right?"

The african had to come along and wail and holler, singing about their "woes" and poof suddenly you have metallica?

Jesus Christ you sound like you time-traveled here from the 1950s. "Wail and holler," smh.

The factual and fair thing to say is "Black people contributed to rock and music generally".

Sure why not, I have a feeling that's about as much credit as you've ever given the black community for anything, so I won't push further.

No one cares or should care what skin colour we are. That is my point. The fact you're obsessed with skin, whether light or dark illustrates the issue.

Did you really already forget that it was your unprompted comment on "black oppression being readily accepted" that started this off-topic conversation? And you most certainly did not say it with positive connotations. So perhaps take your own advice and stop obsessing over just the negative aspects of the black community, even if it is one you are supposedly part of. The white community has just as many, if not more negative aspects to it, but I try to dwell on it as little as possible.

 

[tabzer]

"You need to accept that you are a victim and that we are here to help you."

That's like the slogan of American imperialism. The communication isn't an invitation for a discussion. It's a false platitude. These people just found a way to bully while convincing themselves that they are "good people". Yet, they cannot hide how nasty they really are.

 

[Xzi]

"You need to accept that you are a victim and that we are here to help you."

That's like the slogan of American imperialism.

That's the slogan of imperialism everywhere, sounds like a lot of the Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine.

(To bring this back on topic.)

 

[MadonnaProject]

They abolished slavery after they lost a very long and bloody war against their own countrymen who had to force them to. Additionally, it didn't stay abolished, as the thirteenth amendment allows for slavery as punishment for a crime (no matter how minor). See how easy it was for you to white-wash history by leaving out important details?

Africa, right now, has the highest level of slavery. Africa also has the highest number of hunger, deprivation, corruption etc etc.

You know what happened to the slaves who came to the west? They got out.

If the west is so bad, perhaps they can give Africa a try (which 400 years later is STILL statistically has the highest rate of slavery in the world). And its not all by waht peeplez.

And yet you needlessly tried to make slavery and discrimination against blacks throughout history the "loser" by attempting to belittle it against other historical atrocities. Ever heard the saying, "two wrongs don't make a right?"

Read my comment again. The comparison was about their propensity to whine about slavery. I just said "everyone has had oppression". To do so I had to mention other examples. Its how making a point works.

Jesus Christ you sound like you time-traveled here from the 1950s. "Wail and holler," smh.

How very "black". Language has to be "hood-ified" for it to be cool or understandable. I mean, oh dear I used language you think is from the 50s. Wait the 50's are full of waht peoplez. The 50's were rahoocizz.

Come. On.

Sure why not, I have a feeling that's about as much credit as you've ever given the black community for anything, so I won't push further.

You know another thing I notice about "our people"? Biologically, there's claffications of "race".
Caucasoids are what you call "waht peeoplez". Yet they don't class themselves as one race. They're Australians, British, Americans, Italians amongst more.
Mongoloids (what one calls asians). These are Japanese, Chinese, Korean, mixed with philipino (latino mixture) to give an example. But they don't call themselves "Yellow". They are just people or citizenships.
Negroid It seems no matter what country you're from, whether middle east, south africa, north africa, america, caribbean, whatever, the westerners (especially American blacks) lump them all as "BLACK" or "People of colour". This is an interesting and uneducated phenomenon because the "blacks" in the middle east don't refer to themselves as such.

Maybe you can enlighten me. What exactly is the "black community"? because all I know is the "human community".

Did you really already forget that it was your unprompted comment on "black oppression being readily accepted" that started this off-topic conversation? And you most certainly did not say it with positive connotations. So perhaps take your own advice and stop obsessing over just the negative aspects of the black community, even if it is one you are supposedly part of. The white community has just as many, if not more negative aspects to it, but I try to dwell on it as little as possible.

Its not off-topic. This is the issue. You will try to quash my points in this discussion by being sarcastic, by being insulting, by being personal, then resort to calling me racist, implying I am against my own race, or when that fails pretend the conversation is off topic.

THIS is why nothing can and will be done for our people. Most of us seem incapable of anything remotely resembling an intelligent dialogue.

Just compliment us overly, agree with us, accept our shortcomings and we are happy. Well, it may have worked in america, but there is a whole world out there and not many else accept this sort of behavior from us man. Even in america and western countries we will push things too far and then the backlash against us will be huge.

 

[Xzi]

Africa, right now, has the highest level of slavery.

"Not a contest," remember? The US has the highest per capita prison population, and the entirety of that prison population can be forced into slave labor.

If the west is so bad, perhaps they can give Africa a try

Or we could just try to improve conditions here, rather than flippantly dismiss valid criticisms with whataboutisms.

How very "black". Language has to be "hood-ified" for it to be cool or understandable.

My white parents don't talk like that and I'm in my thirties. Maybe my grandparents did, lmao.

You know another thing I notice about "our people"?

So you're admitting you're white then, noted. Still ain't no "our people" though, I don't side with ignorant conservatives. Especially those that pretend to be black on the internet when they think it might give them a leg up in an argument.

Maybe you can enlighten me. What exactly is the "black community"? because all I know is the "human community".

LMAO you disingenuous SOB. You used that phrase in this conversation before I did.

Its not off-topic. This is the issue. You will try to quash my points in this discussion by being sarcastic, by being insulting, by being personal, then resort to calling me racist, implying I am against my own race, or when that fails pretend the conversation is off topic.

Have you even glanced at what the topic is once? Because it's not, "your thoughts on race relations in America and CRT."

Just compliment us overly, agree with us, accept our shortcomings and we are happy.

You just described Donald Trump and anybody with narcissistic personality disorder. Attempting to stereotype all black Americans in that fashion is just plain racist though, no two ways about it.