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By your own personal backup. If I remember correctly, by US laws, it is allowed you have a personal backup of stuff you bought, this includes games. As long as you do not sell off the original or the copy.
Just downloading the roms works fine. Really, the chance of Nintendo targeting you out of the probably millions of people whove downloaded roms for SNES, N64, ect is about nothing.

And really, CoolRom's library of nintendo games just recently got dmca'd. Did anyone get legal pwnt? No.
 

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Speaking on the subject of the thread itself, I'm sure there are just as many reasons as there are hackers, most of whom probably have multiple reasons to not allow backups by themselves (Devolution as an example). They may simply be against it and only want to test their skill against the security on the console itself, others may be in a position to have to make that stance publicly. But when it all gets boiled down, in a scene like this they as the creators of their invention have say in how their final result is used.
Speaking on piracy itself, I have said before that I do pirate games. In about 75% of those cases, however, I either have bought one or more legitimate copies of that game over the years, almost always new or through an official download service. And quite often in cases where I hadn't owned a copy before, I ended up doing so down the road, because having the game was a great way for me to experience it and want a copy that was less hassle, having to make sure cracks were up-to-date and everything. Skyrim is a fine example of this. I wanted to try it, and ended up pirating a copy because I just couldn't afford a normal version at the time. But as soon as I could, I got the real deal. I wanted the proper game, knowing that I owned this experience, and knowing that it will work better as well.
Whether for trying games out or to experience games that aren't available, or even in the case of simply being able to play something, it is both helpful and harmful and is a part of the industry, both giving and taking. Piracy does have its place, even if it is an odd and precarious one.
 

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Even then it's still a very grey area as the DMCA forbids devices that circumvent anti-counterfeiting measures IIRC. Then again, no one really cares about it and do it anyway lol. I backup all my Wii and Gamecube games, that makes me a "criminal" :creep: :rolleyes:
Well a anti-counterfeiting measure that you can circumvent isn't really anti-counterfeiting... (that statement isn't legally valid of course)

Well, technically speaking piracy is a crime (although it depends on location too I guess)...
Well hacking is a technically crime in Germany (and i am pretty sure in America too). And there are still official hacking conferences in both countrys.

(piracy is clearly a different thing in my eyes though)
 

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Really? Care to provide me one example of this actually happening? Didn't think so, because it hasn't happened.


I am 99% sure that tueidj had his own private copy of Devolution that didn't have the piracy protection that the public release has. You could just tell by his attitude and the way he would respond to people asking him why he put that in his code that he had his own version that did exactly what everyone wanted it to.
 

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I am 99% sure that tueidj had his own private copy of Devolution that didn't have the piracy protection that the public release has. You could just tell by his attitude and the way he would respond to people asking him why he put that in his code that he had his own version that did exactly what everyone wanted it to.
Well did he pirate games would be the question (rumors say there are people who don't pirate except not paying for winrar of course)
 

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Well did he pirate games would be the question (rumors say there are people who don't pirate except not paying for winrar of course)


The whole placing-DRM-on-games-that-don't-generate-revenue is just silly to do in the first place, it sure as hell didn't benefit Nintendo by getting used over-inflated copies of GCN discs XD.
 

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piracy is bad even on dead platforms please understand

I think that it's bullshit, like, the thing is, there's no point in copyrighting material the holders don't do anything with, seeing as no revenue is generated from out-of-print material to defunct companies. There needs to be a serious copyright law revamp, to make it much easier to comprehend and less convoluted.
 

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I think that it's bullshit, like, the thing is, there's no point in copyrighting material the holders don't do anything with, seeing as no revenue is generated from out-of-print material to defunct companies. There needs to be a serious copyright law revamp, to make it much easier to comprehend and less convoluted.
inb4 "if you dont liek it make ur own1!"
 
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