PS1/2 Emulator WiiStation - Another Fork of WiiSXRX released

[Amuro-san]

I haven't tested jokippo's force NTSC, but it was reported that it works perfectly, probably by digging through its code, you will find the error that causes this image error in the official version of wiistation

his version is perfect in RE and Dino Crisis

 

[GustavoReis]

Hi @SaulFabre

Can you test the sheep raider (slus-01369) on the pcsx rearmed to see if it also crashes like the wiistation in the infogrames logo?

 

[Ouaz]

Is the shifted display with Pal Games really related to Force NTSC ?
Because it happens also when Force NTSC is off (the shift is then inverted).

And it's not possible to dig through Jokippo's code about Force NTSC, as he just posted a test build here and never commited the changes to his Wiistation forked repo.

 

[GustavoReis]

Is the shifted display with Pal Games really related to Force NTSC ?
Because it happens also when Force NTSC is off (the shift is then inverted).

And it's not possible to dig through Jokippo's code about Force NTSC, as he just posted a test build here and never commited the changes to his Wiistation forked repo.

https://github.com/Jokippo/WiiSXRX_2022240p/commit/9f1a2ab06523069970400c06e219c0971722bceb

This commit have "force ntsc code"

 

[rexus_pl]

(DELETE EVERY SETTING FILE, INCLUDING THE ONES FROM /wiisxrx/settings/.)

Is it really needed?

I've deleted settings file, but after that I get exactly same file - how could old one be problematic?

If structure of settings file hasn't been changed - then deleting old ones are not nessesery.

 

[Ouaz]

https://github.com/Jokippo/WiiSXRX_2022240p/commit/9f1a2ab06523069970400c06e219c0971722bceb

This commit have "force ntsc code"

Geez, I'm blind or what?
Thanks for the rectification.

Well, he commited it 4 days after having posted the test build here (October 24th). That's my defense. lol

 

[seam1]

Added Mouse support using the Wiimote IR capabilities. Only really tested it with Quake II. The option is under the Lightgun toggle.

There is now also an option to disable the Lightgun and Mouse on a per controller basis. This means you can use the same Wiimote-Nunchuck combo as a mouse and as a regular controller in Quake II.

I tried to get Motion Plus to work, but I couldn't get it to function consistently. But when it does work it works very well (basically giving you gyro aim in quake II) so I might have a look at it again later.

https://github.com/Jokippo/WiiSXRX_2022240p/releases/tag/v2.4-240pV17

Were you ever able to fix motion plus?

 

[SaulFabre]

Hi @SaulFabre

Can you test the sheep raider (slus-01369) on the pcsx rearmed to see if it also crashes like the wiistation in the infogrames logo?

@GustavoReis

Going to report to upstream PCSX-ReARMed now.
Unfortunately, this crash after the Infogrames logo at Looney Tunes: Sheep Raider (USA) also happens on PCSX-ReARMed on PC, not just on WiiStation.

Were you ever able to fix motion plus?

Same question here.

Is it really needed?

I've deleted settings file, but after that I get exactly same file - how could old one be problematic?

If structure of settings file hasn't been changed - then deleting old ones are not nessesery.

I still delete all my settings before i test new builds, you know...

his version is perfect in RE and Dino Crisis

But that build by Jokippo was using the old P.E.Op.S. Soft GPU, and WiiStation is using latest SoftGPU code, which is based in gpulib and sorta of... DFXVideo i think?

 

[GustavoReis]

@GustavoReis

Going to report to upstream PCSX-ReARMed now.
Unfortunately, this crash after the Infogrames logo at Looney Tunes: Sheep Raider (USA) also happens on PCSX-ReARMed on PC, not just on WiiStation.

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Same question here.


I still delete all my settings before i test new builds, you know...


But that build by Jokippo was using the old P.E.Op.S. Soft GPU, and WiiStation is using latest SoftGPU code, which is based in gpulib and sorta of... DFXVideo i think?

I thought there could be a problem with the rearmed code

 

[SaulFabre]

I thought there could be a problem with the rearmed code

It might be.
Anyways, I reported this issue here https://github.com/libretro/pcsx_rearmed/issues/814

 

[Disorarara]

Need For Speed V-Rally 2 has graphical issues on the car selection screen, Madden 2005 has spiky polygons and will eventually crash if left on the attract mode. Both issues don't occur on dynarec, only on lightrec.

The frameskip seems to be broken and skipping a lot more frames than necessary as well, makes the option not as useful as it used to be. And this might just be me but games that run at 60fps don't feel smooth anymore? I see some framerate jitters which are really distracting, similar issue as what current WiiSX builds experience.

 

[SaulFabre]

Need For Speed V-Rally 2 has graphical issues on the car selection screen, Madden 2005 has spiky polygons and will eventually crash if left on the attract mode. Both issues don't occur on dynarec, only on lightrec.

The frameskip seems to be broken and skipping a lot more frames than necessary as well, makes the option not as useful as it used to be. And this might just be me but games that run at 60fps don't feel smooth anymore? I see some framerate jitters which are really distracting, similar issue as what current WiiSX builds experience.

The Frameskip issue you can report in WiiStation GitHub, but first try using the Frameskip option in latest WiiSX for see if this occurs there too.

Also, WiiStation is still not using latest Lightrec yet.

 

[Disorarara]

The Frameskip issue you can report in WiiStation GitHub, but first try using the Frameskip option in latest WiiSX for see if this occurs there too.

Also, WiiStation is still not using latest Lightrec yet.

Frameskip is absolutely broken on WiiSX too, but in a different way. Wiistation just seems to skip a lot more frames than necessary which wasn't how it behaved before

 

[GustavoReis]

Frameskip is absolutely broken on WiiSX too, but in a different way. Wiistation just seems to skip a lot more frames than necessary which wasn't how it behaved before

With the speed improvement on Wiistation, is this function still necessary? I personally forget that it exists

 

[Disorarara]

With the speed improvement on Wiistation, is this function still necessary? I personally forget that it exists

Yes actually there are games that will mostly run full speed but slowdown at various points, having frameskip enabled will make sure that the game runs full speed throughout without garbling sound. I'm also still mostly concerned about 60fps games being jittery and not smooth.

 

[Kirby6417]

I personally don’t remember any version of WiiSX that had a “good” frameskip. I used to use WiiSXR and then WiiSXRX, and they both just skipped frames no matter if the game was at 60FPS or not. It seemed like it just skipped every other frame — I don’t think it cares what the current FPS is.

That’s the only frameskip I ever knew for this emulator. It is good for games that stay slow (40-55FPS) because it makes them full speed (but makes them look choppy). It is annoying for games that hit 60 but dip sometimes, because then you have to make a tradeoff — you can play the whole game with occasional slowdown, or you can play the whole game with choppy frameskipping. An adaptive frameskip code would be cool but I have just never seen it.

Maybe mapping it to a controller button (like we can do with FPS Limit) would be a nice solution.

 

[GustavoReis]

Yes actually there are games that will mostly run full speed but slowdown at various points, having frameskip enabled will make sure that the game runs full speed throughout without garbling sound. I'm also still mostly concerned about 60fps games being jittery and not smooth.

I don't know if it's the same thing I see in games, but what might be bothering you must be what I've been seeing.
for example driver 2, it runs at 60fps, but in certain parts of the city of Rio de Janeiro it slows down, but continues to show 60fps in the emulator, if I remember correctly, the console also had this, so I believe it could be something in the game code, not in relation to the emulator.
I just don't know if the emulator should fix this

 

[Disorarara]

I don't know if it's the same thing I see in games, but what might be bothering you must be what I've been seeing.
for example driver 2, it runs at 60fps, but in certain parts of the city of Rio de Janeiro it slows down, but continues to show 60fps in the emulator, if I remember correctly, the console also had this, so I believe it could be something in the game code, not in relation to the emulator.
I just don't know if the emulator should fix this

Driver 2 isn't a 60fps game, it runs at 30 with many dips when there's a busy scene. I'm talking about games like shmups and fighting games which normally run at 60, the frame pacing is all over the place. This did not occur in previous builds of Wiistation and it makes the motion look worse and choppier than it should be, despite running at full speed.

 

[GustavoReis]

Hi @SaulFabre
Notaz fixed sheep raider in pcsx rearmed
Can you merge this fix to wiistation?

 

[SaulFabre]

Hi @SaulFabre
Notaz fixed sheep raider in pcsx rearmed
Can you merge this fix to wiistation?

Sure, i could try merging it later, along with merging latest Lightrec.