why there is no such thing as "Straight Pride"

@VinLark The fact that we're not burning gay people at the stake anymore doesn't mean that systematic discrimination no longer exists. We also shouldn't be using other societies and nations as a bar to suggest that, in relative terms, discrimination no longer exists.

Saudi Arabia is tolerant! And oh come on, you know damn well you'd watch this if it was true.

http://www.themideastbeast.com/50-cent-headline-saudi-arabias-first-gay-pride-parade-pay-off-debt/

I kinda can't take that article seriously when it's chalk full of click bait garbage. Funny read tho

VinLark
Well the US has gotten a lot better, but there's still needless debate over bathroom rights. But I am 90% sure the bathroom rights arguments are just a distractions from the real problems and if they weren't brought up, no one would give a shit who was peeing next to them.

I think that we focus too much effort in displacing eachother in the search for equality, and we forget the defining points for equality. People should be proud of who they are and there should be zero judgement... Even if they wanted to do something like promoting "straight pride".

@VinLark
Like I ranted about in my love. It's not the worst site, but it has the loudest minority that tends to spread like cancer. They have some good aspects, but if you are some like me, their "trans*" community is just the bane of my existence.

Why is white pride condemned as racist?

I don't really agree on the pride parades as it sends a negative image of the LGBT community.
Then again, I'm talking about the more extravagant types.
You know the guys in leather straps with peacock feathers n what not.
That's not how we are.
We're just like you (straight people) and we just want to be treated like normal individuals.

Atleast, that's me own opinion of it.

Anyway,I fully agree with you.
There are countries (namely muslim countries) where homosexuality is punishable by death.
Other barbaric countries also have it "outlawed"

HOW CAN YOU OUTLAW OR PUNISH THAT!?
It's perfectly fucking normal in the animal kingdom.
Hell, animals solve their problems by having sex all the time.
Well, I know the answer for that as well.
Religious laws and religion.

I'm not bashing religion in any way.
I've got muslim/christian/jew and even buddhist friends.
But it's concerning that in countries where there's a really high concentration of religious people, specifically if that country also has religious laws, that homosexuality is outlawed.

I haven't been to a pride parade myself, but I'm told the "extravagant" people are just a small minority, even though the media seems to focus a lot on them (when they show images and stuff), which I doubt is a coincidence. I don't really have a problem with them anyway, although I admit they end up contributing to the bad image of the parades among the masses (I'm sure they'd find another way to make them look bad without them, mind you).

Pride events are used for making political statements and to feel connected with others.

They have at least their fair share of flamboyant people taking part, so it turns into a colourful event.

Social networks aren't really a good place to talk about your sexuality. I mean, my girlfriend was harrassed over literally saying she was straight and proud on her Facebook wall.

Heterophobia does exist, just on a smaller scale, because gays are still a minority even if some people try to make it seem like they're going to outnumber the straight population soon. Everybody is gonna be against something, even if they don't voice it. Sexuality and gender identity happen to be controversial topics where if you say your opinion, you're likely going to be attacked, because you will offend someone (which is why I keep my opinions to myself). Well, same shit happens if you talk about your political preference or your religion.

There's no events for straight pride, because there's no need to raise awareness, since a big majority of the population is straight. Should it be bad to say you're straight and proud? Highly doubt it. Would that be taken in a bad way by others? Yes, but not all of them.

> I mean, my girlfriend was harrassed over literally saying she was straight and proud on her Facebook wall.
Depends on the context. If she said it to reply to a coming out (for example), it's clear the intent is to express disgust and stuff.

> gays are still a minority even if some people try to make it seem like they're going to outnumber the straight population soon.
No one said that. Smells like a strawman argument.

> Everybody is gonna be against something, even if they don't voice it.
True. I might dislike eating cheese, and feel disgust when I see someone doing it, but I don't go to them and say "I don't approve of that"/"I'm proud of not eating cheese".

> if you say your opinion, you're likely going to be attacked, because you will offend someone (which is why I keep my opinions to myself).
Again: if your "opinion" offends/insults/makes fun of a group of people, free speech doesn't protect you from having consequences out of it (being called a bigot, being shunned etc.). Right to free speech != right to say all you want with no consequences from others.

> Well, same shit happens if you talk about your political preference or your religion.
Political preferences and religion are a choice. Sexuality and gender identity can't be chosen or changed (and this is a fact, not an opinion).

> Should it be bad to say you're straight and proud? Highly doubt it.
See above. Depends on the context.

Being straight is still considered "normal"
There's literally no oppression nor is there any discrimination against straight people.
So I kinda can understand the negative commentary on her facebook post.
But the actual harassing part is just some SJW and facebook fools.

Facebook itself is a breeding ground for drama and dumb people who think they need to voice their opinion on things with most of them not even knowing what their talking about.

@aurora wright Man, do you sound salty

She said it randomly after a night we spent together watching movies and playing Mario Kart Wii. You know, she had reasons to wake up in a good mood and say she was a happy straight woman with a boyfriend.

People do say that around these parts of the globe as sort of a homophobic argument ("oh noes, the world is going gay".. you guys make me laugh)

You wouldn't so that, because not everybody is the same. Try eating meat in front of a radical vegan, haha. If I see a homosexual couple, I don't go tell them anything because it isn't my business.

Opinions can be inflammatory by nature, specially if taken out of context which is something that Internet people love doing.

I dunno man, it was a choice for me for 8 months ;3 will tell you more if you care

> Man, do you sound salty
Let's add an "ad hominem" to the strawman (and no, I'm not salty).

> She said it randomly after a night we spent together watching movies and playing Mario Kart Wii. You know, she had reasons to wake up in a good mood and say she was a happy straight woman with a boyfriend.
Assuming you're saying the truth, people who insulted her are idiots. My point still stands though, depends on the context.

> People do say that around these parts of the globe as sort of a homophobic argument ("oh noes, the world is going gay".. you guys make me laugh)
Homophobes maybe, people on the "LGBT side" don't say that. I concur that it's bullshit though.

> You wouldn't so that, because not everybody is the same. Try eating meat in front of a radical vegan, haha.
The radical vegan who comes to you complaining about what you eat would be equally at fault in my eyes.

> Opinions can be inflammatory by nature, specially if taken out of context which is something that Internet people love doing.
I didn't take it out of context, if anything I said that context is important (and you didn't really give any).

> I dunno man, it was a choice for me for 8 months ;3 will tell you more if you care
I call BS, as studies demonstrated sexuality can't be changed and there are several proofs of sexuality being inborn (no wonder the supposed "ex-gays" are always affiliated with religious organizations and/or gain money from it ).

Equality? Lol. Nobody wants equality. If you were about equality than you would have no doubt that there is hetrophobia and hetero pride. Of course there is hetero pride. Pride is not exclusive to anyone. Sounds like someone is trying really hard to feel special. Hetrophobia is also rampant on this board. If you say anything outright that is insensitive it the gay community, even if it's just fact or excluding the gays 90% of you girls will freak out. Please. You all think of yourselves as righteous but your motives are just selfish self validation. Equality? Please. You want equality as long as whoever you think you are comes first. Things will never be equal until we stop defining different rules for different social groups and actually treat each other as equals. Your I want equality and hetero people can't have pride or hate against them is the definition of a prejudicial statement. Just like "reverse racism" is just in fact racism.

Perhaps you're not, but you sound extremely defensive

Thank you for assuming I'm telling the truth yes, they are idiots for saying she's oppressing them (I bet they're sjw tumblrinas, haha)

Because LGBT side knows their facts about it, let's agree on this one

It all depends on how you present your arguments, and the in your face approach is wrong in all levels. Once again, we agree about who's at fault

I'll Keep this in mind and expand next time. More context shall be given


Eww, religious organizations that "convert" people. Please don't associate me with them ;-;

@mikefor20 no, there really is no such thing as "hetero/straight pride". because you don't see discrimination/oppression against straight people in the world, do you?

the point in this "gay pride" stuff is so it hopefully becomes not special. as in, so literally nobody cares and you won't get discriminated or whatever against because of it. until that happens, "gay pride" will still exist.

I don't want to be special because I just so happen to be gay. oddly enough, things like this are an attempt towards that goal.

by the way, heterophobia basically means attacking straight people, not people who said something about gays. much like homophobia is attacking gays.

> Hetrophobia is also rampant on this board.
I haven't seen it, I guess because I'm a bigoted heterophobe myself /s

> If you say anything outright that is insensitive it the gay community, even if it's just fact or excluding the gays 90% of you girls will freak out.
I've grown tired of repeating the same thing about free speech over and over again. You have the right to say it, not to have it accepted by everyone with no negative reactions. Is this clear? lol (also heh, "freaking out" == "girl". Real men never freak out /s ).

> Please. You all think of yourselves as righteous but your motives are just selfish self validation. Equality? Please. You want equality as long as whoever you think you are comes first.
Looks like you know all the pro-LGBT people who posted here to be able to say that And anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well .

> Things will never be equal until we stop defining different rules for different social groups and actually treat each other as equals. Your I want equality and hetero people can't have pride or hate against them is the definition of a prejudicial statement. Just like "reverse racism" is just in fact racism.
The first statement is right (do we want to talk about the different rights straight and gay people get in lots of countries, like the one where I live?).
"Gay pride" exists just because gays are discriminated against. It's like saying "you hate me for who I am, but I have pride of it instead". The moment gay people stop being discriminated and no one gives a crap, people won't need to say they have pride in being gay.
Hetero people not having hate against them isn't prejudice, it's fact. Mention me stats about hetero people being kicked out of their homes because of being hetero, or countries where hetero people have less rights than the rest of the population.