I think I'm becoming an incel

I decided to read Elliot Rodger's manifesto, because not many mass murderers write about their entire life before killing a bunch of people, and the prospect of seeing inside a mass murderer's mind was kind of intriguing. Now I'm not saying that Elliot's actions were justified, but honestly I find myself similar with him with most, if not all of the things he's said in his manifesto. I think I may become an incel (or be one, idk). I don't know if I should or shouldn't and I'm asking you, the community, to give me some advice. Thanks.

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Don't worry, you may kill 3 people, but it probably won't be a mass murder, that's normally associated with the U.S., you are 14 years old, there is still a lot of bulshit to deal with, I didn't worry about sex because of my peers, everyone have a different grow rate, you should keep improving the person you are and never give up, besides the end goal is not about having a relationship, I'm not worried about it, even I'm not searching something permanent right now, before I had sex, I had some twisted ideas that I knew i wouldn't do it because it wasn't worth it, sometimes miracles does happen, but don't wait for one
 
As others have stated, most incel aren't incel. They're just self-circumstance created volcel--specifically the shitty ones that blame others for a goal they hope to reach (sex with women) but refuse to take reasonable steps to achieve that goal. I wouldn't call it a God complex, though. I would call it a delusional belief that sex should be a goal in life instead of a potential happy byproduct of life.

Once you set something as a goal in life, specially a goal that plenty of others reach and you feel you should be able to too, it's little wonder that some people would go off the deep end and do pretty horrible things to achieve that goal. This isn't limited to incel. Really, it applies to near any goal in life where a person is sociopathic and they either don't take trained steps to avoid abuse or there aren't enough societal safeguards to avoid/minimize abuse.

So to summarize, stop thinking at 14 your goal in life is to have sex. As others have pointed out, you'd be best served just trying to develop relationships with others. In all probability, sex as an option will natural come out of those relationships. Then the real challenge is deciding that you really shouldn't have sex. :)
 
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Honestly I don't think you quite understand what incels believe and why you really shouldn't want to be involved with them. Most incels believe things like women want to be raped, but report rapes because they enjoy ruining the lives of men. Most believe race mixing is one of the reasons why women don't want to have sex with them. This is also coupled with their beliefs that all other races (especially mixed races) are ugly and only exist to prevent them from having sex. Most believe lesbians are "failed women" and believe that raping them will "cure them." These are only part of the actual believes incels collectively hold.

You are 14, you don't need to be involved with this kind of movement. What you need to do is work on your social skills and get to know people. The relationships you have now will help in you the future if you actually work on them and form healthy friendships with people. You are too young to make your life about sex (or the lack of sex) and the level of deep obsession like incels have is going to ruin your life. Incels don't form healthy relationships and really it's nothing to strive for. Strive for friendship, strive to enjoy life, enjoy your free time, you will have a relationship one day with someone, but first just enjoy your life while you are still young. Seriously the extreme other half of having a serious relationship at a young age almost always ends in a dumpster fire (some don't, but most do)
 
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If you were like 50 or above still having problems like this, your course of thinking would be at least somewhat understandable, but still not justifiable. However, you're 14

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>If you were 30 or above this would be somewhat justifiable, but you're 14 goddamnit

I'm 30 or above and not like that. Most rational single people aren't like that. Really, there's nothing that's justifiable about it except in the "I have a mental disorder and need professional help". If that was recognized by someone and they sought help, I would cheer them admitting they have a problem and their efforts to try to overcome it. The rest of it is just a shameful, twisted mess.
 
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Ok well, try not to hurt anyone I guess. Don't know what else I can say that hasn't already been said.
 
Here's the thing - an incel isn't merely somebody who is celibate despite their own best efforts. There are plenty of people like this in society.

An incel is a person who adopts that label because they perceive their inability to have sex as somehow the fault of the other sex (or the same sex). It is not necessarily anybody's fault if they don't have much luck with relationships, but when this becomes weaponised as an excuse to commit acts of hate against other people, this is where the problem lies. Nobody is obligated to have sex with you, and nobody owes you anything. It doesn't matter how 'nice' a person perceives themselves to be, it's not even a relevant consideration. Sex isn't some kind of 'reward' that people are somehow 'owed'. People have the right to be in relationships with whoever they want, good people or bad people alike.

Instead of taking out frustrations on the opposite sex, people need to come to terms with the unfair social pressure that gets placed on people to be in relationships in the first place. Challenge this social norm. There's nothing wrong with being single. It only becomes wrong when people think it's everybody else's fault, or somehow an 'injustice'.
 
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I'm deciding not to be an incel and o decided not to reply to the thread on purpose so I can see your opinions without changing the topic. Thanks guys.
 
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I can see where some of the frustration that incels feel comes from. In traditional dating, there's no denying that women have the upper hand. Even mildly attractive women have the luxury of choice, due to the fact that traditionally men are the ones that have to do the pursuing. On the other hand, only very attractive men have this luxury. There's absolutely nothing that can be done about this, as it's an evolutionary holdover from ancient days where finding the most physically fit mate was a necessity for the survival of the species. It's not fair, but blaming one sex or the other for it, and starting a movement that condones rape and violence among other things is stupid and pointless.
 

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