The Key to Making the Switch 2 Fresh is the Previous Gen: The 3DS and Wii U

I've been thinking about this, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks the most logical thing Nintendo can do right now is chase the wild success of the Switch with a more powerful version of the same hybrid system concept. It's not hard to see what they'd do, take the OLED model, give it better pair of pro joy-con and beef up the specs. We're probably at the point where such a device could output 4K while docked, and 1080p in handheld and being within Nintendo's price range. And this is all well and good, should be an easy way to keep the money coming, but, it's also not very Nintendo-like to just release an improved version of the system before and nothing more.
In fact the examples of this are few: the Game Boy (Color) to the GBA, the NES to the SNES, and the N64 to the GameCube. That's pretty much it (maybe the SNES to the N64, but I'd argue that the change of focus to 3D was enough alone to make that a unique enough change in it's own right). Everything else they've ever done has pretty much been with something unique to accompany the change in hardware: shift to 3D, 2 screens, motion control, Stereoscopic 3D, detached second screen controller, hybrid console/handheld. You get the idea.

So what does Nintendo do with the Switch 2 beyond beefing up the specs and (hopefully) giving it a better set of joycon controllers? Well maybe they could really blow our minds with some sort of hologram display or something else I'm not even fathoming right now, but I think they could do a lot by simply re-introducing lost concepts from the previous generation of unique Nintendo hardware.

First of all, consider the massive install base of the original Switch, at this point the Switch has sold over 114 million units, and that number is probably closer to 120 million units at this point. Keep that in mind as the Wii U only sold 13.5 million units total. It's probably a safe bet that with that many people already owning a Nintendo Switch, that a fair amount of them are going to be the ones to also quickly buy a Switch 2 when they first go on sale. Nintendo could use this to their advantage. Enable the Switch 1 to connect with the Switch 2 to essentially function as a second screen controller. Nintendo could try and convince you to keep your original Switch in order to experience unique 2 screen gaming setups on the Switch 2, not to mention how easily LAN multiplayer games could be achieved for games that can run on both systems (I imagine a Switch 2 will be backwards compatible with the Switch 1).

Because not everyone would have both systems, they should always keep this an optional control method of course, but by allowing it, we could make experiences like designing courses in Mario Maker more enjoyable like they were on the Wii U. We could have on the go inventory management and map display in Tears of the Kingdom and BOTW, etc. etc. You'd probably have to download like a companion app per game on the OG Switch, but it should be feasible (albeit maybe a bit of a large download depending on the game), Nintendo used to allow such an idea with download play for single-pak multiplayer with games on the 3DS, DS, and even GBA.

So that's all well and good for bringing back 2 screen play, and maybe more asymmetrical experiences for the new system. But how about they give it an optional glasses-free stereoscopic 3D when played in handheld? I don't know what kind of specs it would need to achieve this, but imagine if we have the option to play games in 1080p in handheld, or turn that down to 720p while getting the glasses-free 3D effect of the 3DS. Maybe I'm in the minority but I loved that feature, and it'd be so great to see it return for an HD portable gaming device.

Plus, the large built in 2 screen audience they could foster and the 3D feature could really help the Switch 2 stand apart from the many hybrid gaming PC devices we see popping up all over the place. Of course, Nintendo games alone will always be big selling points, but in a world where Nintendo is no longer the only hybrid gaming device out there, they're going to want to find something unique to make them stand out when we know it's not going to be by being the most powerful version of such a device out there.

I dunno, what are your thoughts? Is this all a bit too fanboy like? I can see that argument, but I do think the opportunity for at least part of this to occur is definitely there and I would love to see it.

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I don't think that 4k in a switch form factor device is feasible. You would need such power hungry chips that heat would likely become an issue. The steam deck is substatially more powerful than the switch and they put a lower resolution display on it for a reason. The thing I wish nintendo would bring back is the charm of their earlier systems, like the different music for different menus. The modernized switch ui feels boring and flat to me.
 
Hardware spec improvement of the "same thing" would rather be
Game Boy → Game Boy Color
GameCube Wii Wii U
Game Boy Advance DS → DSi 3DS
With the red arrows marking additional drastic changes.
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Hologram display sounds interesting, but I doubt this is feasible or end user ready. At the end people would shout it down with the word "gimmick" like they always do with exotic things. As if gimmick would be something negative in gaming if it is fun (which the auto-stereoscopic screen is in my opinion). The latest 3D-hype¹ is over.

Reinventing the gaming industry, something completely new and revolutionary, that gets harder and harder the more things already existed before. From the perspective of just making money, Nintendo would probably not fail with a more powerful, backwards compatible Switch 2 lacking significant, revolutionary changes. I'd expect it to perform worse in total number of sales than current Switch, but still very good.

On the other side, I'm not really a relevant person in regard of the topic since I mostly stopped buying gaming devices and games anyway (the prime reason being DRM). 3DS family and Wii U are my last consoles. At some point it just felt better to let go the collecting hobby and call the collection mostly complete. Not going with the "latest and greatest" saves a lot of money and personal energy. Maybe it is a sign of getting older, but I don't see any appeal in the newer devices. No joke, if somebody knocked at my door and said: "Here is a free Switch/PS5/Steam Deck/whatever with 20 games for you." my answer would be: "No, thanks. Give it to somebody else."







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¹ We had 3D in the 1950s and the 1980s. In the 2010s they all screamed "3D is the future! This time it is for real. The technology is mature. No TV without 3D function anymore!"
Then it was over due to dark, expensive glasses, flickering and lack of (good) content. Next "This is the future!"-topic, please. Curved monitors. 4K. HDR. Ultra-wide, Get a new TV and PC monitor every three years and throw away your outdated junk.
 
Hardware spec improvement of the "same thing" would rather be
Game Boy → Game Boy Color
GameCube Wii Wii U
Game Boy Advance DS → DSi 3DS
With the red arrows marking additional drastic changes.
======

Hologram display sounds interesting, but I doubt this is feasible or end user ready. At the end people would shout it down with the word "gimmick" like they always do with exotic things. As if gimmick would be something negative in gaming if it is fun (which the auto-stereoscopic screen is in my opinion). The latest 3D-hype¹ is over.

Reinventing the gaming industry, something completely new and revolutionary, that gets harder and harder the more things already existed before. From the perspective of just making money, Nintendo would probably not fail with a more powerful, backwards compatible Switch 2 lacking significant, revolutionary changes. I'd expect it to perform worse in total number of sales than current Switch, but still very good.

On the other side, I'm not really a relevant person in regard of the topic since I mostly stopped buying gaming devices and games anyway (the prime reason being DRM). 3DS family and Wii U are my last consoles. At some point it just felt better to let go the collecting hobby and call the collection mostly complete. Not going with the "latest and greatest" saves a lot of money and personal energy. Maybe it is a sign of getting older, but I don't see any appeal in the newer devices. No joke, if somebody knocked at my door and said: "Here is a free Switch/PS5/Steam Deck/whatever with 20 games for you." my answer would be: "No, thanks. Give it to somebody else."







_____________________
¹ We had 3D in the 1950s and the 1980s. In the 2010s they all screamed "3D is the future! This time it is for real. The technology is mature. No TV without 3D function anymore!"
Then it was over due to dark, expensive glasses, flickering and lack of (good) content. Next "This is the future!"-topic, please. Curved monitors. 4K. HDR. Ultra-wide, Get a new TV and PC monitor every three years and throw away your outdated junk.
I don't consider GB to GBC nor DS to DSi to be proper gen upgrades, they're just mid-gen refreshes really like a PS4 Pro.
 
I don't think that 4k in a switch form factor device is feasible. You would need such power hungry chips that heat would likely become an issue. The steam deck is substatially more powerful than the switch and they put a lower resolution display on it for a reason. The thing I wish nintendo would bring back is the charm of their earlier systems, like the different music for different menus. The modernized switch ui feels boring and flat to me.
4k only when docked has been found to be very feasible for the next gen system.
 
Who dafaq needs a 4K Switch? That's overkill, man.

But yeah, bringing back the 3DS and Wii U libraries (including Virtual Console) would be downright amazing.
 
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I too loved the stereoscopic aspects, in spite of everyone yelling 'gimmick', what the hell do you call the vibrating aspect to the controllers... a necessity? I call that gimmick, but nice.
In one interview I strongly recall N saying their main focus was to use old(er) tech in new ways... they quoted that as their main methodology for moving forward...(past & future).

I'm ok with that... although many of the ds/3ds games would be great on a dual-screen Switch ( maybe detachable?) switch with stereoscopic 3d, I do not see it happening. Ehem Kid Icarus I'm looking right at you...

as for the joy(less) cons... don't get me started... I've pulled more significant stuff from between my teeth after eating grilled ribs! (gross but funny)

I did not see myself enjoying what is essentially a tablet (the switch) for gaming, but I'm really into it at home. As for taking it otg? That is just a joke as far as I'm concerned (when away from an elec socket) a gimmick if you will. Even the S/light is not practical IMO for otg use. Not really in the strong manner that the 3ds/DS series was & is still for me.

I never gave much thought to DRM until the recent onslaught of gaming companies taking down games; making purchases into mere rentals.

I am convinced the 3ds & DSi series ( 1st-3rd party) made every game require an extra DL just to (hopefully) cause people to perceive games as incomplete, decrease value, otherwise and thereby slow the interest in piracy.

I've gone on too long, time to shut up.

I realize that last thought might be a bit out there but that's my story and I'm stickin' with it.
 

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