This is a statement without an actual source and most likely withoutactual medical proof. A "concerned mom" isn't a doctor and chances are she made this statement up.
Vaccines and Autism Spectrum Disorder!
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http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/ABELL.ZELLER073008.pdf
here's a court case
Here's the conclusion..
As aforementioned, the Court is authorized to award compensation for claims where the medical records or medical opinion have demonstrated by preponderant evidence that either a cognizable Table Injury occurred within the prescribed period or that an injury was actually caused by the vaccination in question. § 13(a)(1). If Petitioners had claimed to have suffered a “Table” injury, to them would §13(a)(1)(A) have assigned the burden of proving such by a preponderance of the evidence. In this case, however, Petitioners do not claim a presumption of causation afforded by the Vaccine Injury Table, and thus the Petition may prevail only if it can be demonstrated to a preponderant standard of evidence that the vaccination in question, more likely than not, actually caused the injury alleged. See § 11(c)(1)(C)(ii)(I) & (II); Grant v. Secretary of HHS, 956 F.2d 1144 (Fed. Cir. 1992); Strother v. Secretary of HHS, 21 Cl. Ct. 365, 369-70 (1990), aff’d, 950 F.2d 731 (Fed. Cir. 1991). The Federal Circuit has indicated that, to prevail, every petitioner must: show a medical theory causally connecting the vaccination and the injury. Causation in fact requires proof of a logical sequence of cause and effect showing that the vaccination was the reason for the injury. A reputable medical or scientific explanation must support this logical sequence of cause and effect. Grant, 956 F.2d at 1148 (citations omitted); see also Strother, 21 Cl. Ct. at 370.
here's a court case
Here's the conclusion..
As aforementioned, the Court is authorized to award compensation for claims where the medical records or medical opinion have demonstrated by preponderant evidence that either a cognizable Table Injury occurred within the prescribed period or that an injury was actually caused by the vaccination in question. § 13(a)(1). If Petitioners had claimed to have suffered a “Table” injury, to them would §13(a)(1)(A) have assigned the burden of proving such by a preponderance of the evidence. In this case, however, Petitioners do not claim a presumption of causation afforded by the Vaccine Injury Table, and thus the Petition may prevail only if it can be demonstrated to a preponderant standard of evidence that the vaccination in question, more likely than not, actually caused the injury alleged. See § 11(c)(1)(C)(ii)(I) & (II); Grant v. Secretary of HHS, 956 F.2d 1144 (Fed. Cir. 1992); Strother v. Secretary of HHS, 21 Cl. Ct. 365, 369-70 (1990), aff’d, 950 F.2d 731 (Fed. Cir. 1991). The Federal Circuit has indicated that, to prevail, every petitioner must: show a medical theory causally connecting the vaccination and the injury. Causation in fact requires proof of a logical sequence of cause and effect showing that the vaccination was the reason for the injury. A reputable medical or scientific explanation must support this logical sequence of cause and effect. Grant, 956 F.2d at 1148 (citations omitted); see also Strother, 21 Cl. Ct. at 370.
Last I checked, a doctor, who went through several years of medical school mind you, knows more about vaccines than some random guy writing articles on the internet.
I've posted a ton of sources not that you've bothered going through any of it.
The court even say there is lack of evidence that vaccines caused the injuries/theories.
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Honestly, you can't convince me vaccines don't cause autism. I don't care about the science behind it. Call me one of those ignorant buffoons, but I stand by my claim.
Here's my story.
My mother was told by her doctor not to vaccinate my older brother, Collin, because my father has autism, as did my other brother. By the time he was eighteen months old, he started saying words, and was already walking. He loved to eat watermelon, and what our family calls "Funeral Potatoes". Then they moved. Their doctor who had warned them not to vaccinate my brother was no longer our primary doctor. When we went in to get him his check-up, the doctor was down my parents throats about vaccinating my brother. Under pressure, my parents agreed to one vaccine, the MMR. They were nervous about it, but they took him in anyway because the doctor refused to service them until they vaccinated my brother. Well, the doctor took it to her leisure to give him every fucking vaccine at once. My parents were furious.
They never went back to that doctor. 3 days later, my brother shut down. He just stopped. He wouldn't speak, wouldn't walk, wouldn't do anything he used to do. He hated being touched, and would wail when he was.
A few weeks later he was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome.
Asperger's is a mental disability that stems from the central nervous system. It is entirely possible that he could've had Asperger's in him before these shots, but certain shots that affect the central nervous system may have triggered the autism.
I doubt vaccines directly relate to autism, but you can't tell me they don't have an effect.
To this day I have not been vaccinated. I was born after my parents moved again, and that doctor told them not to vaccinate me because over 90% of the population was vaccinated, so I shouldn't be at risk.
Here's my story.
My mother was told by her doctor not to vaccinate my older brother, Collin, because my father has autism, as did my other brother. By the time he was eighteen months old, he started saying words, and was already walking. He loved to eat watermelon, and what our family calls "Funeral Potatoes". Then they moved. Their doctor who had warned them not to vaccinate my brother was no longer our primary doctor. When we went in to get him his check-up, the doctor was down my parents throats about vaccinating my brother. Under pressure, my parents agreed to one vaccine, the MMR. They were nervous about it, but they took him in anyway because the doctor refused to service them until they vaccinated my brother. Well, the doctor took it to her leisure to give him every fucking vaccine at once. My parents were furious.
They never went back to that doctor. 3 days later, my brother shut down. He just stopped. He wouldn't speak, wouldn't walk, wouldn't do anything he used to do. He hated being touched, and would wail when he was.
A few weeks later he was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome.
Asperger's is a mental disability that stems from the central nervous system. It is entirely possible that he could've had Asperger's in him before these shots, but certain shots that affect the central nervous system may have triggered the autism.
I doubt vaccines directly relate to autism, but you can't tell me they don't have an effect.
To this day I have not been vaccinated. I was born after my parents moved again, and that doctor told them not to vaccinate me because over 90% of the population was vaccinated, so I shouldn't be at risk.
http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/ABELL.ZELLER073008.pdf
here's a court case
Here's the conclusion..
As aforementioned, the Court is authorized to award compensation for claims where the medical records or medical opinion have demonstrated by preponderant evidence that either a cognizable Table Injury occurred within the prescribed period or that an injury was actually caused by the vaccination in question. § 13(a)(1). If Petitioners had claimed to have suffered a “Table” injury, to them would §13(a)(1)(A) have assigned the burden of proving such by a preponderance of the evidence. In this case, however, Petitioners do not claim a presumption of causation afforded by the Vaccine Injury Table, and thus the Petition may prevail only if it can be demonstrated to a preponderant standard of evidence that the vaccination in question, more likely than not, actually caused the injury alleged. See § 11(c)(1)(C)(ii)(I) & (II); Grant v. Secretary of HHS, 956 F.2d 1144 (Fed. Cir. 1992); Strother v. Secretary of HHS, 21 Cl. Ct. 365, 369-70 (1990), aff’d, 950 F.2d 731 (Fed. Cir. 1991). The Federal Circuit has indicated that, to prevail, every petitioner must: show a medical theory causally connecting the vaccination and the injury. Causation in fact requires proof of a logical sequence of cause and effect showing that the vaccination was the reason for the injury. A reputable medical or scientific explanation must support this logical sequence of cause and effect. Grant, 956 F.2d at 1148 (citations omitted); see also Strother, 21 Cl. Ct. at 370.
try to debunk case law...
I wonder how many of the anti-vaxxers have injured kids which could have been prevented by vaccines. But I will say it again: I rather have a child injured by vaccines than a dead one. And the risk getting a severe illness which is preventable by vaccines is way higher than the risk of vaccine damage.
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III. CONCLUSION Therefore, in light of the foregoing, the Court rules in favor of entitlement in this matter. The parties are instructed to contact the Court for further proceedings, regarding the issue of damages.
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I read the story and I would say the doctor was a fault. You don't get all vaccines at once since a vaccine is a really weak version of the disease that the body builds antibodies for. If a child gets them all at once, I can't imagine how that immune system would feel.
About the Quote however, this is the problem. If less people gets vaccinated, the people that actually CANT be vaccinated will be at risk. If less and less gets the vaccines, more and more people will get ill and die.
You either have autism, or you don't have it. It isn't "triggered" by anything. People are born autistic.
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*few* I was expecting the first post to go into how the doctor was in the right and how I am stupid.
Yes, the doctor was definitely at fault. All of those shots at once is injecting all of the dead viruses into a child at the same time.
And yes, I know that if less people get vaccinated, those who financially can't will be affected. However, if I contract a disease that can be prevented by vaccines, I will probably die with it before I can give it to somebody else. And I am OK with that.
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Nah i don't think my brother was but thanks.
Like I said, it was probably hidden at first, but the barrage of shots combined with the ones that affect the central nervous system could have brought it out.
Correct, it's a brain abnormality. And it's perfectly fine! Most people with asbergers (or as it's called today, High functional autism) live fine lives. People need to stop looking for things to put the blame on. Especially on something as important thing that can save lives. What's next? Blame water because people can get poisned by it because of improper cleansing?
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Maybe, maybe not. However it's still important that you try to give your children vaccines. Don't play with their future if you already chosen yours.
As a second year med student this entire thread makes me cry.
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You've obviously never lived with one.
I had to grow up fast.
My mother told me growing up that I needed to push him, to be his example. When he doesn't want to follow his younger brother, he beats the crap out of his younger brother.
He is now living off of money from my parents will. He doesn't know how to live. I've been to his house a few times, and he stays upstairs, watching youtube on his phone or playing some Plants Vs Zombies game. He is 29.
It isn't so much their life, but the lives they affect.
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And I'd also like to point out that science has been wrong before. They told my grandmother to drink 2 beers a day when she was pregnant with my mother. She didn't, but what would have happened if she did? That's right, FAS.
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