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You've obviously never lived with one.

I had to grow up fast.
My mother told me growing up that I needed to push him, to be his example. When he doesn't want to follow his younger brother, he beats the crap out of his younger brother.

He is now living off of money from my parents will. He doesn't know how to live. I've been to his house a few times, and he stays upstairs, watching youtube on his phone or playing some Plants Vs Zombies game. He is 29.

It isn't so much their life, but the lives they affect.
Plenty of people I know have asbergers. They live alone and have jobs and relationships. There are different degrees of autism, that I know. I just gave one example, that it's a brain abnormality and not all of them are bad.
 
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Also, @comput3rus3r couldn't you have not made profit off of a controversial subject like this? Just post the actual links
 

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tell that to the parents of a child who lost all speech after vaccinations.
Even if vaccines would make 10% of people autistic, that would be fucking worth it
But there isn't any correlation

Every day i spray my deodorant into my fridge so elephants don't come in

Ive never seen an elephant in my fridge so therfore it must work

Do you see how your reasoning is flawed

Personnal experience that in top of that can't even be verified to be true
Can't be a proof

And anyway you don't even understand what autism is...
 
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You've obviously never lived with one.

I had to grow up fast.
My mother told me growing up that I needed to push him, to be his example. When he doesn't want to follow his younger brother, he beats the crap out of his younger brother.

He is now living off of money from my parents will. He doesn't know how to live. I've been to his house a few times, and he stays upstairs, watching youtube on his phone or playing some Plants Vs Zombies game. He is 29.

It isn't so much their life, but the lives they affect.

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And I'd also like to point out that science has been wrong before. They told my grandmother to drink 2 beers a day when she was pregnant with my mother. She didn't, but what would have happened if she did? That's right, FAS.

Actually, I am in a relationship with an autistic person. And guess what? If I hadn't been told, I would never know.
 

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No. I have natural immunity.
Tell that to hiv or ebola
You don't have imunity you just use other as a protection but you just are an asshole and a moron by willingly lowering herd imunity
And because of you, people that can't vaccinate due to allergies or other reason might die

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And worst of all you are spreading bullshit i really despise moron like you
 

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When we are speaking science, Wikipedia is more a brief than a complete source
So no it explain what it is but not how it work or how the nerotransmetor are related to autism...
I know, all I can say it's something you're born with. It's a birth defect at most, just like ADD and ADHD.
 
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Tell that to hiv or ebola
You don't have imunity you just use other as a protection but you just are an asshole and a moron by willingly lowering herd imunity
And because of you, people that can't vaccinate due to allergies or other reason might die

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And worst of all you are spreading bullshit i really despise moron like you

Finally some facts in this thread :D

Also, @comput3rus3r couldn't you have not made profit off of a controversial subject like this? Just post the actual links

He copied and pasted stuff from years ago that has been discredited. I think his main point was profit, but there's always the chance he's actually this slow.
 
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Exactly. Your brother also is just one person.
Yes I know. I said why I don't believe in vaccines. When I get married and have kids, my wife will probably have best of way when it comes to that, so I won't have a say in vaccinating my kids.

Again, I said why I don't believe in vaccines. I never said nobody should believe in vaccines.

Linuxares said that most autistic people live good lives. I said why I disagree, and was intending to get across it is different for every person.
 

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And anyway better having autism than being dead
You all are screaming big pharma
Which have "some" truth
But remember that average life expectancy 1ky ago was about a third of today's
 
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But remember that average life expectancy 400y ago was about a third of today's
400y ago I don't think they had over the counter medicine, doctors that could do brain surgery (except in greece), air conditioning (cause of heat stroke/hypothermia), and healthier eating options. They didn't know whether the animal they ate had a disease or not. Keep in mind that certain tribes would cut holes in the skulls of people have migraines. That would kill them if they did it wrong.

Basically, that point is null and void, and you cannot pin our life expectancy all on vaccines.
 

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400y ago I don't think they had over the counter medicine, doctors that could do brain surgery (except in greece), air conditioning (cause of heat stroke/hypothermia), and healthier eating options. They didn't know whether the animal they ate had a disease or not. Keep in mind that certain tribes would cut holes in the skulls of people have migraines. That would kill them if they did it wrong.

Basically, that point is null and void, and you cannot pin our life expectancy all on vaccines.
He never stated that. He said that they do help a lot of people to live. Polio was a big issue until the vaccine got released.

Actually found a good article about vaccines (yes, with sources on each graph) https://medium.com/@visualvaccines/graphic-proof-that-vaccines-work-with-sources-61c199429c8c
They proove once the vaccine came out, the drop was significante about drops in deaths. We actually KILLED Smallpox thanks to vaccines. Hopefully we will see a bunch more be totally eradicated and never ever shown again.
 
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