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Do you think Donald Trump is mentally ill?

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Navonod

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Wrong, I claim he's racist because he opened his campaign on racist remarks. Before that he insisted Obama couldn't have been born in this country because he's black. Before that, Trump's first appearance in the newspaper was a story about him being sued for racial discrimination in the 60s. Anybody who thinks Trump isn't racist is intentionally keeping the blinders on.

Shit, I haven't even mentioned the Trump administration's response to Puerto Rico.
Again I think you guys are taking things out of context. I can't speak on the 60s thing but I'm a firm believer in people changing themselves for the better.
 

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Didn't you just make a big thing about making things up when things don't fit a narrative?

Also, something I should have recognized MUCH earlier, but I'm starting to recognize some of your arguments. Do you, by any chance, listen to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity?
I am just arguing my opinions. I don't have a narrative. All I did was bring up what "some" means or could mean. It's an undefined amount of something. I have never heard of either of those people. I assume I share the same opinions?
 

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Again I think you guys are taking things out of context. I can't speak on the 60s thing but I'm a firm believer in people changing themselves for the better.
There's no context in which any of what I mentioned sounds non-racist. Trump really doesn't even deny it himself, he just uses the excuse that he's "a 50s guy." Obviously, the 1950s weren't a great time in American history for anybody except white men.

Even ignoring Trump himself for a moment, his following is just an amalgamation of all types of racists. KKK, neo-nazis, Southern strategy conservatives, faux-libertarians, and others all fall under the umbrella of "alt-right."
 
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There's no context in which any of what I mentioned sounds non-racist. Trump really doesn't even deny it himself, he just uses the excuse that he's "a 50s guy." Obviously, the 1950s weren't a great time in American history for anybody except white men.
Well back then no one gave a hoot if they offended people or not. Doesn't make them racist.
 

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Well back then no one gave a hoot if they offended people or not. Doesn't make them racist.
Did you read what I said at all? White men* didn't care if they offended people, sure, because nobody was allowed to talk back. A black man's opinion was worth a fire hose, and that's the way Trump liked it I'm sure.
 
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Besides are we going to completely ignore the fact that other races say racist things about white people? Like so what. I honestly believe we need better racial slurs for white people myself being white.

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Did you read what I said at all? White men* didn't care if they offended people, sure, because nobody was allowed to talk back. A black man's opinion was worth a fire hose, and that's the way Trump liked it I'm sure.
You do know that there was black rich men around the same time with their own slaves right? Acted the same way.
 
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Besides are we going to completely ignore the fact that other races say racist things about white people? Like so what. I honestly believe we need better racial slurs for white people myself being white.
It's the president of the US, for god's sake. So what? So what is we shouldn't have an idiot in the White House spewing off racial slurs. There's no comparing Trump to anyone else in this regard, because no other president has been so low-class. Imagine if Obama was tweeting out "honky-ass crackas" all the time.

You do know that there was black rich men around the same time with their own slaves right? Acted the same way.
JFC with the whataboutism, man. Yeah, 0.5% of black people might not have had to lick Trump's boots in the 50s. Whoopitydoo.
 
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It's the president of the US, for god's sake. So what? So what is we shouldn't have an idiot in the White House spewing off racial slurs. There's no comparing Trump to anyone else in this regard, because no other president has been so low-class. Imagine if Obama was tweeting out "honky-ass crackas" all the time.
But he isn't though. I'd honestly find it funny if Obama did say that. It doesn't bother me and shouldn't bother anyone else.
 
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But he isn't though. I'd honestly find it funny if Obama did say that. It doesn't bother me and shouldn't bother anyone else.
Obama would've been impeached ten days into his presidency just for having his own business that he funnels money into through the secret service. The standard was completely different for the first black president than it is for Trump.
 

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Obama would've been impeached ten days into his presidency just for having his own business that he funnels money into through the secret service. The standard was completely different for the first black president than it is for Trump.
Oh that's BS and you know it.
 

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Obama got the same treatment every other president has gotten. People demanding documents, accusing them of breaking laws, and the rest of the BS the other side does because they weren't left or right.
 

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Obama got the same treatment every other president has gotten. People demanding documents, accusing them of breaking laws, and the rest of the BS the other side does because they weren't left or right.
Again, Obama had no real scandal, yet the GOP acted like he was pissing in their cereal every morning. Trump was the racist overreaction to Obama's presidency, evidenced by the fact that he made his first political appearance promoting birtherism.

Now we just need someone to go on TV and declare that Trump is an illegal because they've never seen an American that shade of orange before.
 
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Again, Obama had no real scandal, yet the GOP acted like he was pissing in their cereal every morning. Trump was the racist overreaction to Obama's presidency, evidenced by the fact that he made his first political appearance promoting birtherism.

Now we just need someone to go on TV and declare that Trump is an illegal because they've never seen an American that shade of orange before.
Yeah and? There is no evidence showing Trump has a scandle but everyone is accusing him of pissing in cheeros to. I'll give you that he maybe may have said some kind of racial slur but I don't see it. I haven't heard him say it only people claiming he did without any REAL evidence other that what they say they heard. Sounds like BS. Remember the whole Mitt Romney thing where he was filmed saying that he wasn't going to help the American people get jobs back and just tell us we're on our own? That kind of evidence.
 

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What are their names and where is their certificate showing that they can legally diagnose him with mental illnesses?
You know how this goes: even if I track the authors, provide full name and medical expertise, you're going to dismiss it because they base their diagnosis based on public records.
 
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There is no evidence showing Trump has a scandle but everyone is accusing him of pissing in cheeros to.
You're shitting me, right? Trump is under investigation and his lawyer was just raided by the FBI. Mueller has mountains of evidence for multiple different charges. Trump creates a new scandal every day because that's all he knows how to do. He has no legislative or governing experience. He's basically a fake president compared to Obama. And hopefully only a temporary one at that.
 
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You're shitting me, right? Trump is under investigation and his lawyer was just raided by the FBI. Mueller has mountains of evidence for multiple different charges. Trump creates a new scandal every day because that's all he knows how to do. He has no legislative or governing experience. He's basically a fake president compared to Obama. And hopefully only a temporary one at that.
Looks like harassment to me.

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You know how this goes: even if I track the authors, provide full name and medical expertise, you're going to dismiss it because they base their diagnosis based on public records.
Try me. Or is it as I thought they were paid to give fake diagnosis?
 

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Looks like harassment to me.
Only if you haven't been paying attention at all. The Mueller investigation was brought on because Trump fired Comey in an attempt to obstruct justice. That's despite the fact that Comey also helped win Trump the election by violating the Hatch Act. In other words, Trump has nobody to blame but himself, and that's probably what makes him angriest.
 
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