In a recent blog post titled “Helping customers shift to a modern desktop”, Microsoft has confirmed that from 14 January 2020, when the extended support for Windows 7 ends, they will only keep pushing security updates to Windows 7 users who have signed up to a monthly paid subscription. Microsoft also says that the subscription fee will increase every year.

Today we are announcing that we will offer paid Windows 7 Extended Security Updates (ESU) through January 2023. The Windows 7 ESU will be sold on a per-device basis and the price will increase each year.

The pricing has not yet been revealed and Microsoft is only making this offer to Windows 7 Professional users. Seems like if you want to keep your devices safe, you will soon have to upgrade to Windows 8 or 10.

Helping customers shift to a modern desktop
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[TotalInsanity4]

Hey read before you reply im already on 10 and i dont need the upgrade,
i even mentioned it in the post you replyed to, and thanks but im fully aware of what stand or stood..
So nothing is on me haha

Not gonna lie I've been busy all day, I read the first paragraph, which was relavant to what I said. I obviously didn't read past that

But, along that tangent:

i mean sure it's better if you want all your data sent to xhi jinping, president of china

Many, if not all of the privacy-breaching functions that exist in Windows 10 (aside from Cortana) existed in 7 and 8. The main difference in 10 is that they were finally caught, and as a consequence presented an option to turn some of those functions OFF directly via the settings. I don't see how that's not a point in the favor of 10, in terms of objectively comparing iterations of the same base OS

 

[Song of storms]

People are pissed because Windows 7 won't receive security updates in a year and a half, but say that updating to Windows 10 is useless because security updates are useless.



Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[AkikoKumagara]

I think people are ignoring that this is to punish businesses who refuse to upgrade, not regular consumers. The source notes that it's for Win 7 Pro VL customers, which are usually businesses, schools, or other commercial settings with demand for a large amount of keys.

 

[Thunder Hawk]

At this point, if people want to remain safe, they'll have to do one of the following:

1. Upgrade to Windows 10
2. Switch to any Linux distro of your choice (I recommend Ubuntu)
3. Pay the monthly fee (but honestly, who wants to do that?) or
4. Stop using your PC altogether, which I'm sure many of you don't want to do.

If you don't want to support Microsoft, that's fine. Install a Linux distro and don't use Windows or pirate Windows 10. But if you keep using this dinosaur without paying the monthly Microsoft Tax™, you're in for a world of pain and malware.

5. Pirate the updates.

 

[the_randomizer]

5. Pirate the updates.

Well that would be..huh??

 

[Arecaidian Fox]

Seems reasonable, atleast they offer the people living in the past the possibility of continuing to do so.

I will never understand why people doesn't want a better OS.

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"Better" is subjective. Emulators and a lot of older games run way better on my Win7 OS versus my Win10 install, on the same machine, with the same hardware and data.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

"Better" is subjective. Emulators and a lot of older games run way better on my Win7 OS versus my Win10 install, on the same machine, with the same hardware and data.

Which emulators? But yeah I could see older games doing better on 7

 

[Song of storms]

"Better" is subjective. Emulators and a lot of older games run way better on my Win7 OS versus my Win10 install, on the same machine, with the same hardware and data.

I remember when Vista came out and a lot of the games I played from the previous millennium didn't work. You know what I did? I installed a virtual machine. My PC wasn't that powerful but Vista and the virtual machine still ran fine. Why would you stick to an old, outdated OS just to do something you can easily do on a virtual machine?

 

[Arecaidian Fox]

I remember when Vista came out and a lot of the games I played from the previous millennium didn't work. You know what I did? I installed a virtual machine. My PC wasn't that powerful but Vista and the virtual machine still ran fine. Why would you stick to an old, outdated OS just to do something you can easily do on a virtual machine?

Because I'd rather just slap another hard disk in it and install rather than go through the headache of setting up passthoughs and shit.

Which emulators? But yeah I could see older games doing better on 7

Cemu is the big offender. BotW is practically crippled on Windows 10 for me, I have to lock it DOWN to dual-core, 1080p 30 FPS. It pretty much chokes to death somehow unless I force it to go slow. On Win7, I can get it running on triple-core, 1440p 45-60FPS. Dolphin saw improvements, too, but since Dolphin is pretty optimized already, I guess it doesn't matter. But older DX9-11 games like Borderlands 2 and the 32-bit version of Skyrim are night and day. My modded Skyrim setup becomes a sluggish mess on W10, especially with post-processing (which also breaks on Win10), thanks to the crappy DX9 integration in the OS. Borderlands 2 grinds to a 15-FPS slideshow during firefights with PhysX enabled. On Windows 7, BL2 is a constant, butter-smooth 60. So, in general, yeah, I've found Win7 to be superior for emulation and most older games. Windows 8.1 is actually a viable option, too.

 

[Pachee]

Are you kidding me? you can do that with gpedit.msc (which is not an "extra hack") once it is disable. Windows update won't update the store nor any app you got from the store..

Most of those "extra hacks" or "uber ultra win 10 tweak!!" are just scripts that do it for you, you are not "hacking" windows, just using functions that are already there and should be common knowledge for most not so basic user...

In fact Microsoft store is one of the things i disable in all win 10 computers, once disable it won't update and yes some files are not deleted will waste the amazing and uber space of 910KB!!!!!!!!!

False again and you have no idea what you are talking about. Security updates will be delivered to system packages no matter your policies, and they will stay installed no matter if you "just disabled" them.

 

[the_randomizer]

Because I'd rather just slap another hard disk in it and install rather than go through the headache of setting up passthoughs and shit.


Cemu is the big offender. BotW is practically crippled on Windows 10 for me, I have to lock it DOWN to dual-core, 1080p 30 FPS. It pretty much chokes to death somehow unless I force it to go slow. On Win7, I can get it running on triple-core, 1440p 45-60FPS. Dolphin saw improvements, too, but since Dolphin is pretty optimized already, I guess it doesn't matter. But older DX9-11 games like Borderlands 2 and the 32-bit version of Skyrim are night and day. My modded Skyrim setup becomes a sluggish mess on W10, especially with post-processing (which also breaks on Win10), thanks to the crappy DX9 integration in the OS. Borderlands 2 grinds to a 15-FPS slideshow during firefights with PhysX enabled. On Windows 7, BL2 is a constant, butter-smooth 60. So, in general, yeah, I've found Win7 to be superior for emulation and most older games. Windows 8.1 is actually a viable option, too.

I'd have stuck with Windows 7 if the damn video display drivers and/or potential corrupt system files didn't keep soft-locking my PC every time my screen saver and standby mode actually effing worked, believe me. But, seeing as I never did narrow down the issue despite numerous driver reinstalls and changing video inputs, yeah, I had to figure out something. Win 10 on an SSD, there's no going back for me. My PC isn't even powerful enough to run CEMU anyway.

Haswell Core i7 4770
eVGA GTX 960
16 GB DDR3 SDRAM

Yeaaaaaah

 

[Deleted User]

Compatibility is one of the main reasons to stick on 7, I love Total War and the older games that include SafeDisc simply don't work on W10, unless you buy the Steam edition.

 

[xdarkmario]

this is the funniest thing i have read all day.
its like when they jacked up the price of cigarettes to a skyrocking price to "deter people from buying a health hazardous intake" when its just a ambiguous way to say "you wont fall into our plan and upgrade so to keep your old os you must continuously pay us"

 

[Deleted User]

Windows 7 is Microsoft's final sane operation system, both in UI and in functionality.

 

[WildDog]

False again and you have no idea what you are talking about. Security updates will be delivered to system packages no matter your policies, and they will stay installed no matter if you "just disabled" them.

The one who doesn't even know what is talking about is you... Yes it does, if you disable/remove the store, it should not get any update for it nor even have it back

There was an old bug, that made those disable / remove apps come back and get updated. Read there.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...agement/remove-provisioned-apps-during-update

Issue was fixed a good time ago.

But you know what? Keep thinking what you want an using an outdated OS.

 

[hamohamo]

While its good, its not 100%, Ive had some issues with hardware which only received “beta” support, mainly my asus d2x and drm like securom is intentionally blocked, albeit with good reasons.

iirc every single software that 7 can use, 10 can use too. but for xp it's another story.

 

[WildDog]

iirc every single software that 7 can use, 10 can use too. but for xp it's another story.

Securom and safedisc are not supported by Windows 10, it was blocked by Microsoft because they had vulnerabilities. There are some unofficial workarounds for playing those games.

 

[Pachee]

The one who doesn't even know what is talking about is you... Yes it does, if you disable/remove the store, it should not get any update for it nor even have it back

There was an old bug, that made those disable / remove apps come back and get updated. Read there.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...agement/remove-provisioned-apps-during-update

Issue was fixed a good time ago.

But you know what? Keep thinking what you want an using an outdated OS.

Try to uninstall Cortana using said methods, or even something as useless as Windows Feedback. Then reply back to me.

 

[Arecaidian Fox]

I'd have stuck with Windows 7 if the damn video display drivers and/or potential corrupt system files didn't keep soft-locking my PC every time my screen saver and standby mode actually effing worked, believe me. But, seeing as I never did narrow down the issue despite numerous driver reinstalls and changing video inputs, yeah, I had to figure out something. Win 10 on an SSD, there's no going back for me. My PC isn't even powerful enough to run CEMU anyway.

Haswell Core i7 4770
eVGA GTX 960
16 GB DDR3 SDRAM

Yeaaaaaah

My Win10 is on SSD as well, I enjoy the speed. Just seems to me like the more and more major update releases M$ gives 10, the more bloated and laggy it gets. The OS is a far cry from the heady, speedy days of summer 2015. You can't even get an official "clean" ISO anymore, they load it with their shovelware. Only way I saw to have an easy, light Win10 install was "finding" a copy of Win10 Enterprise. Trying that out on a netbook for low-spec stress testing, good so far. Anyway, your system might be beefy enough for Cemu. Have you tried recently?

As for the actual topic here, eh. I'm pretty sure we all saw this coming, they did something similar with XP back in the day, if I recall...

 

[WildDog]

Try to uninstall Cortana using said methods, or even something as useless as Windows Feedback. Then reply back to me.

Are you kidding me? LOL

I am not talking about "services", what i meant are the system packages stored in windows\servicing\packages. You can't chose to not update them, you can't remove them without extra hacks. Try to remove the Windows Store

You said Microsoft store... i did prove you that it can be removed and there is no need for "extra haaxxx" now that you see you are wrong you change to cortana?
No, Cortana, Edge or Feedback cannot be removed, only disabled.