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Men’s Group wins lawsuit. U.S. Women may be forced to be drafted to wars.

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Because women are a liability on the battlefield. Also, as long as there are able-bodied men, it is unjust to draft women.
What evidence do you have that women are a liability on the battlefield? If you have none of substance then I call you out for being a misogynistic arsehole, Insulting to all brave women that currently fight in the armed forces.
 
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What evidence do you have that women are a liability on the battlefield? If you have none of substance then I call you out for being a misogynistic arsehole, Insulting to all brave women that currently fight in the armed forces.

I was speaking generally. There are some women who could be effective, but they should sign up voluntarily, not have the standards lowered, and there should be safeguards in place to make sure that their presence doesn't negatively affect any team dynamics.
Women are great to have in a police force because they can do things that men can't. There are probably many examples of this in the military too, but women should have a very minimal role in combat situations.
You can call me out for being a misogynistic ahole if you want. I choose to wish you a nice day and hope you consider my argument.
 

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I was speaking generally.
Therein lies the problem. Speaking "generally" without evidence is evidence of prejudice, and in this case sexism.

You can call me out for being a misogynistic ahole if you want. I choose to wish you a nice day and hope you consider my argument.

Oh no, I would still not wish ill for you if you are a misogynistic arsehole, its just disappointing to see it in this day and age. So I also wish you a good evening

But if you find that EVIDENCE that proves that women are a liability on the battlefield, feel free to share.
 

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I don't expect we'll see a draft in our lifetime. As politically charged as the country is today, a draft would likely spark civil unrest, if not civil war.

That said, it makes complete sense to have the widest draft pool available, because a draft is a last resort should the country be running low on military manpower. Civilian women are no more or less qualified to be called to service than civilian men are.
 
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Therein lies the problem. Speaking "generally" without evidence is evidence of prejudice, and in this case sexism.



Oh no, I would still not wish ill for you if you are a misogynistic arsehole, its just disappointing to see it in this day and age. So I also wish you a good evening

But if you find that EVIDENCE that proves that women are a liability on the battlefield, feel free to share.

Here is a link from the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...han-men/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f90d909ffd85
 

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The men's rights movement is largely misogynistic and usually supports inequality skewed in favor of men. Since men aren't a marginalized group, the movement typically doesn't address any real issues.
and how is the same not true for feminism? I never heard one of the mainstream feminism scream about the woman right situation in the near east.
 

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That said, it makes complete sense to have the widest draft pool available, because a draft is a last resort should the country be running low on military manpower. Civilian women are no more or less qualified to be called to service than civilian men are.
What do you mean? They are more likely to blow the enemies dick than they are to blow his brains out. You're naive.
 

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What do you mean? They are more likely to blow the enemies dick than they are to blow his brains out. You're naive.
Well then. It doesn't get much more sexist or narrow-minded than that. Sounds like someone is a little bit insecure about their masculinity.
 
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Women are vastly inferior to men.
Congratulations, my friend! You’ve won an award! Please come here and accept your trophy for “Most Sexist Thread Comment”!

Ahem. I hope you meant that for the draft topic, and not just in general, lol.

Anyway, I don’t see this really affecting anything. If we’re drafting women to fight for our country, we’ve got a heck of a lot else to be worrying about at that point.
 
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Sexist feminists got rekt.

Though, this is a blow to real women, who understand the advantages and disadvantages of men and women and live their lives to the best of their abilities, and any blow to real women is a victory to feminists.
 

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Congratulations, my friend! You’ve won an award! Please come here and accept your trophy for “Most Bigoted Thread Comment”!

Ahem. I hope you meant that for the draft topic, and not just in general, lol.

Anyway, I don’t see this really affecting anything. If we’re drafting women to fight for our country, we’ve got a heck of a lot else to be worrying about at that point.

In the context of war, specifically. But in general terms, too. I have a mother and sister I love very much so I'm not trying to come off as a misogynist but even with technological innovation to bridge the gap, female performance never quite measures up.

This drafting decision is absolute proof of this.
 
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This is not the kind of equal right women are looking for

In the nicest way possible, for any woman asking for equal rights who isn't for this: fuck you!

It's not like soldiers WANT to be in a war zone, and the politicians who start wars are never in the front lines.

As often as this is stated, in less modern times frequently the politicians were also the generals leading their troops into battle. You know, back in the day when war was "honorable" and "face to face" and all that bullshit. Really, if people back then really believed that, they'd arm wrestle or some just as stupid standard for deciding victory. The fact that machine guns and bombs mean you can obliterate the lives of faceless thousands really cuts down on the whole romanticism of war. It also really cuts down on wanting to be at the "front" of any war.

I think that this stunt they are pulling is misogynistic or at the very least is just intended to point out hypocrisies in feminism.

I'd say in reverse, this proves the misandry against men as being little more than human fodder to be used by the State as disposable meat bags.

Meanwhile, for the most part guns (especially vehicle mounted machine guns) have totally undercut the arguments against using women in war. You think women can't aim and press a button? You think they aren't strong enough to load things? Honestly, about every step in modern warfare is pushing as much of the physical burden on machines precisely because machines can run 24/7 (in theory) but no human can while doing superhuman things. I see no reason to not push hard for women to be in the same boat as men.
 

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