Harvey Risch is a partisan hack, and he's not an expert in infectious disease epidemiology.A new piece from Harvey Risch - Professor of epidemiology at Yale
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...sk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous
Hydroxychloroquine works in high-risk patients, and saying otherwise is dangerous
Every randomized controlled trial to date that has looked at early outpatient treatment has involved low-risk patients, patients who are not generally treated. In these studies, so few untreated control patients have required hospitalization that significant differences were not found. There has been only one exception: In a study done in Spain with low-risk patients, a small number of high-risk nursing home patients were included. For those patients, the medications cut the risk of a bad outcome in half.
I reiterate: If doctors, including any of my Yale colleagues, tell you that scientific data show that hydroxychloroquine does not work in outpatients, they are revealing that they can’t tell the difference between low-risk patients who are not generally treated and high-risk patients who need to be treated as quickly as possible. Doctors who do not understand this difference should not be treating COVID-19 patients.
I can only speculate about the cause of the FDA’s recalcitrance. Hydroxychloroquine is an inexpensive, generic medication. Unlike certain profit-generating, patented medications, which have been promiscuously touted on the slimmest of evidence, hydroxychloroquine has no natural financial constituency. No one will get rich from it.
Just remember that those who think it’s effective probably also inject themselves with bleach.
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.So is there something you claim from his newest article that is wrong? Care to share that?
That's what I figured LOL, thanks for your expertise with this.Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Seven different randomized scientific studies from five different sources which show no benefit in using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, two of which measure its effectiveness against placebos:
New England Journal of Medicine
New England Journal of Medicine (2)
Annals of Internal Medicine
Clinical Infectious Diseases
Recovery
MedRxIV
MedRxIV (2)
Anecdotal evidence from individuals who may or may not have a financial interest in the sales of this drug, along with politically biased sources such as the Washington Examiner are one thing, but studies which properly follow the scientific method (and thus have results which can be reproduced) are entirely another.
I'd abandon this thread, the creators are just sealioning.
"Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity.[1][2][3][4] It may take the form of 'incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate' ". waaaaaay too much shift of goal posts and "but muh hypothetical". it's obvious the OP never intended on even thinking about shifting their opinion or worldview. it's just a thinly veiled attempt at pushing wedge issues to try to radicalize the forum.
hell the term "holocough" is 100% a red-flag.
Holocough: An anti-Semitic and racist term relating to the use of COVID-19 against Jewish people or immigrants in order to imitate the holocaust.
What about this? Any conclusive news on if this actually works?
https://news.yahoo.com/rlf-100-aviptadil-clinical-trial-200000564.html
This thread has derailed hard.
The new "normal" - A Human Zoo
Really, is GBATemp the appropriate place to talk about politics or a cure for a virus? No, it's not. I guess they allow such threads for more traffic/views/users.The only replies I see that indicate it derailing are responses like yours that are not sticking to the subject
The original point to this thread, "Is Hydoxycloroquine really efficient at treading covid-19"
is still actively being discussed with recent evidence. The virus is not over yet.
Really, is GBATemp the appropriate place to talk about politics or a cure for a virus? No, it's not. I guess they allow such threads for more traffic/views/users.
The most important thing is to be healthy and have a good immune system. Also, don't get paranoid over the media's scaremongering of the Corona (not the Mexican beer, of course).
God knows how many people actually died from the virus than those numbers officially reported. Trump isn't very trustworthy, but I agree with him about the WHO.
Really, is GBATemp the appropriate place to talk about politics or a cure for a virus? No, it's not. I guess they allow such threads for more traffic/views/users.
The most important thing is to be healthy and have a good immune system. Also, don't get paranoid over the media's scaremongering of the Corona (not the Mexican beer, of course).
God knows how many people actually died from the virus than those numbers officially reported. Trump isn't very trustworthy, but I agree with him about the WHO.
Excess deaths don't exist when the virus is unavoidable.you can figure a great approximation by looking at excess death rates.
so far our excess deaths have reached over 200k in 7 months.