Homebrew Is it even worth waiting for homebrew on a patched switch on 10.X.0?

[Valwinz]

people say the vita was never going to be hack nor the ps4 I remember

\I say keep updating but eventually probably by the end of its life something will come out as nothing is unhackable

 

[TomSwitch]

I find that very hard to believe.
What's the reasoning behind this?

Did you try to hack it? Are you motivated? How many out there are motivated? Is there that much to gain? Wait for a new console from Nintendo and the desire to hack will come back.

Maybe the existence of mod chip is to blame? The need is some what satisfied by it and removed a significant amount of motivation.

 

[TomSwitch]

people say the vita was never going to be hack nor the ps4 I remember

\I say keep updating but eventually probably by the end of its life something will come out as nothing is unhackable

You neighbor could win the lottery and send you 1M, but don't count on it.

If nothing is impossible is enough than go ahead and live happily having that thought.

 

[l7777]

I really don't get the aggresiveness of some users when questions like these are posted.

His questions aren't stupid, you're just taking it the wrong way.
Obviously, when someone says that there's 99.99% chances that something will never get cracked, especially when it's as popular as the Nintendo Switch, it raises some questions, well at least one which is : why ? That's why he asked for the reasonning behind this.

i dont care if people will hate or ingore me but godreborn.......should calm the hell down. why so rude? whats ur problem?

Because it apparently isn't obvious to some I'll attempt to lay it out:

1. Person joins Gbatemp and asks a question that has been asked, answered, and discussed in depth before. A search would have produced all the info needed to self educate.
2. Some more experienced Gbatemp member(s) answer said question anyway.
3. New person replies with some variation of "I don't believe you".
4. Experienced members either then attempt to explain it or get annoyed that they took the time to answer a repetitive question only to be ignored or repeatedly questioned.
5. The OP's question is particularly annoying as it takes very talented people to hack/exploit closed source systems like game consoles and there is no monetary reward. When people come in and refuse to believe what has been said by these people because everything they know about hacking or cybersecurity comes from movies or tv it ruffles feathers.

 

[Olmectron]

Because it apparently isn't obvious to some I'll attempt to lay it out:

1. Person joins Gbatemp and asks a question that has been asked, answered, and discussed in depth before. A search would have produced all the info needed to self educate.
2. Some more experienced Gbatemp member(s) answer said question anyway.
3. New person replies with some variation of "I don't believe you".
4. Experienced members either then attempt to explain it or get annoyed that they took the time to answer a repetitive question only to be ignored or repeatedly questioned.
5. The OP's question is particularly annoying as it takes very talented people to hack/exploit closed source systems like game consoles and there is no monetary reward. When people come in and refuse to believe what has been said by these people because everything they know about hacking or cybersecurity comes from movies or tv it ruffles feathers.

You can always simply stop answering if something bothers you online, instead of getting angry and post angry comments in a thread that already has no sense because of the points you listed.

Another obtuse guy not understanding "obvious" things everyone should know about Switch scene? Ignore and go to the next thread. Report if you think it's needed.

 

[Manaboy]

Hello, 2 years ago I posted a thread to this forum asking whether or not I should wait for homebrew. The responses back then were essentially no unless you want to use the crappy SX thing. I am back, still on Mariko 10.2.0, I ask once again; Is there a way to get Atmosphere (or whatever the common FOSS CFW is) using those mod-chips, if not, does the future likely hold a method to do this in SW? I can wait, as long as it's foreseeable that it will happen atleast before Nintendo releases a fully new console. The switch library doesn't really interest me so I'm not really on the edge of wanting to update, running Android & emulators is far more appealing than the 2 games on the switch that I would even consider, it's already a paper weight in its current state to me, I'm not afraid of bricks by failed mod chip installation.

You've waited 2 years, wow bro, I was in the same situation then I just decided to get a v1 unpatched switch and change out the board and the SN sticker as my switch was from brand new and had immaculate condition screen, covers, battery etc, then with my patched but hardly used motherboard inside the old cover/screen, I listed it on eBay as parched Nintendo switch perfect working condition to recoup some of the money I spent on the unpatched switch.


Thing is, there are people out there who aren't into all that hacking and want a switch for what it is, I made sure the SN sticker matched the system setting SN, so the new owner won't be confused and to date his happy with his switch and I'm happy with my unpatched switch.

 

[Manaboy]

So why not just buy an unpatched switch v1 tablet only from eBay etc and if the screen and casing isn't to your standard, keep your existing pristine condition case screen etc. At the same time if I'm not mistaken, any switch can me hacked to have cfw with the HWFLY mod chip. There's like 4 different versions circling. If you're confident on your soldering skills just get a chip, I know it's like over priced £120+ for one, I'm planning to get one for my oled switch. By the way dolphin android runs really bad on the switch, many games unplayable.

 

[TomSwitch]

You can always simply stop answering if something bothers you online, instead of getting angry and post angry comments in a thread that already has no sense because of the points you listed.

Another obtuse guy not understanding "obvious" things everyone should know about Switch scene? Ignore and go to the next thread. Report if you think it's needed.

Trolling is by definition something that can get response from people. The OP has free time and same with others in this thread.

 

[Olmectron]

Trolling is by definition something that can get response.

Alright...? I guess?

I don't say they shouldn't answer, they can and it's their right.

But getting angry doesn't damage anyone but the person that got angry. Based on their comments, they got angry, and that's probably affecting their health, even if a little bit. If something bothers me that much, I ignore it and go on with my day.

Why start arguing with random internet strangers that are only ignoring what I say, even if they're wrong and I'm right?

Also, reporting posts/threads is a kind of response. Usually the best one because the user posting nonsense can be banned.

 

[Purple_Heart]

you want to know what my problem is? it's my birthday, and people are treating me like shit. I don't need this at any time, especially now. I may not be the most knowledgeable, but you won't find someone more dedicated. I go out of my way for people, compiling shit, testing games, risking my own systems trying to do something dangerous, just for the sake of knowledge, and it's not for me, it's for each and every one of you.

ok then i take it back. i understand that. ^^

 

[LightBeam]

Because it apparently isn't obvious to some I'll attempt to lay it out:

1. The OP's question is particularly annoying as it takes very talented people to hack/exploit closed source systems like game consoles and there is no monetary reward. When people come in and refuse to believe what has been said by these people because everything they know about hacking or cybersecurity comes from movies or tv it ruffles feathers.

Some people just got mad he asked for sources. If asking for sources to you is someway to say « I don't believe you » then it's a you problem, because people not believing you right away is a good thing. It's absolutely healthy to doubt, obviously not always but as a newcomer on a forum ? Of course I would doubt what some random people would tell me, no matter their postcount. If you really are that more experienced, then you would explain the reason without any issue and it would have been+ done.
But no, peeps had to be like « oh but you think it's easy ? If you still don't believe it then do it yourself !! » and that's kinda pathetic to be honest.

And they didn't quote SciresM right away, you could have used an authority argument (I don't like those too much but in this case it would have done the job), but yeah sorry if SciresM is way more credible than anyone here. When he started doubting, his answers were « it never happened on the 360. Just do it yourself then » and impezza while explaining the reasoning just assumed OP wouldn't trust despite his explanation being fine, so it's just more passive aggressive shit.

I'm also done with this thread so I'll just mute, but some here have been dicks to the OP, and not searching on the forum isn't a really good reason to me. Just keep in mind that it's not because you're « more experienced » that everyone know you are, especially newcomers, and that these newcomers shouldn't satisfy your ego by not asking why you're thinking some way just because you have a higher postcount than theirs.

 

[deathblade200]

Some people just got mad he asked for sources. If asking for sources to you is someway to say « I don't believe you » then it's a you problem, because people not believing you right away is a good thing. It's absolutely healthy to doubt, obviously not always but as a newcomer on a forum ? Of course I would doubt what some random people would tell me, no matter their postcount. If you really are that more experienced, then you would explain the reason without any issue and it would have been+ done.
But no, peeps had to be like « oh but you think it's easy ? If you still don't believe it then do it yourself !! » and that's kinda pathetic to be honest.

And they didn't quote SciresM right away, you could have used an authority argument (I don't like those too much but in this case it would have done the job), but yeah sorry if SciresM is way more credible than anyone here. When he started doubting, his answers were « it never happened on the 360. Just do it yourself then » and impezza while explaining the reasoning just assumed OP wouldn't trust despite his explanation being fine, so it's just more passive aggressive shit.

I'm also done with this thread so I'll just mute, but some here have been dicks to the OP, and not searching on the forum isn't a really good reason to me. Just keep in mind that it's not because you're « more experienced » that everyone know you are, especially newcomers, and that these newcomers shouldn't satisfy your ego by not asking why you're thinking some way just because you have a higher postcount than theirs.

I REALLY hate the whole "source" bullshit its never used as anything other than a way to discredit the other person even when a source is given it just turns into a "oh i don't trust that" or "its biased blah blah blah" so on and so forth it NEVER ends well because the annoying fuck asking for "source" will never admit being wrong and people need to stop making such childish attempts at trolling there is a name for these type of people "Sealions". argumentum ad verecundiam is just the most annoying shit on the internet.

 

[Ondrashek06]

It's 99.9999999999999999999999999999999% sure patched units and later will never software exploitable so fuck up your switch completely and hardbrick it hahahahaha LOOOOOOOLLLL

Do you know how ridiculous this sounds.

 

[OrGoN3]

Dumb phone didn't show more pages. Sigh

 

[linuxares]

I do believe a software bug will be found. But most likely beyond the EOL for the Switch.

 

[impeeza]

Do you know how ridiculous this sounds.

Why to edit quotes to include words no on the post?

 

[OrGoN3]

I do believe a software bug will be found. But most likely beyond the EOL for the Switch.

Hrmmm.....what do you know that you aren't telling us?

 

[TomSwitch]

Do you believe in multiverse? Does it matter if there is no way of jumping between them?

Does it matter that in one of them every Switch sold by Nintendo is unpatched?

 

[masagrator]

Just to make it clear, the switch is not using the freebsd kernel, that some missinformtion that doesn't want to disapear.
The switch uses a custom kernel and os, that's a rewrite of the 3DS os, with all the lessons learned from the 3DS applied to it.
The codebase of the parts with the most privilages (kernel/trustzone) is kept as small as possible, resulting in a codebase that devs can understand completelly, resulting in less bugs.
For CFW we would need to have access to at least the kernel, better the trustzone, so with probably no exploitable bugs in there, there is no way outside of modchips to exploit newer switches.

This misinformation exists because in license FreeBSD is mentioned, but only socket is based on FreeBSD socket. Nothing else. Even sysmodule is called "bsdsocket"

 

[masagrator]

people say the vita was never going to be hack nor the ps4 I remember

\I say keep updating but eventually probably by the end of its life something will come out as nothing is unhackable

But they didn't have fully Decompiled kernel (and i guess they still don't?)