15 States are Setting New COVID19 Records. What Do 13 Have in Common?

[omgcat]

Population density, demographics, regional differences, regional health differences. Just awhile ago Democratic states had the highest number of Covid deaths compared to republican ones.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/05/26/coronavirus-death-toll-is-heavily-concentrated-in-democratic-congressional-districts/?amp=1

You can make the correlation equals causation argument that people with high levels of education are hit the hardest by covid 19. Therefore covid 19 spreads faster if you have higher IQ. Covid 19 wants to kill smart people and only leave stupid people to exist on the planet, a government created virus so that smart humans won't invent technology to fight them off when the Illuminati and free masons plans to invade for world domination.

Most of the international airports are also in democratic areas. the earlier massive outbreaks was a result of novel viral spread before we could test and track. That is why it raged so hard in New York and the surrounding states (spread through mass transit such as subway and bus in the tri-state area). most if not all spread since march has been from community transmission, and the states that shut down early and stayed closed longer are not surging. also, democratic states aren't cooking their fucking books like Florida and Georgia. Anyone with a brain can see that super spreader events like open beaches, bars, and shopping with masks is causing explosions in community spread. The scientific community knows that this virus has been kicking around since at least last October, and was in multiple countries including Europe by December. It made it's way to the united states mostly from European travel, since Asian travel was locked down, and the infection latency period can be as long as 14 days.

 

[SG854]

Totally true.
Statistics manipulation is a tool often used by sensationalist press.

PS: Also, I edited my previous post because it was probably easy to misinterpret.

Look at this one, top 17 cities out of 20 of the highest crime cities are Democratic run, only 1 republican city is high crime. If you make the same correlation equals causation argument chibimofo is saying you can say therefore Democratic policies causes high crime in these cities. Why go after Republicans, its the Democrat policies that are racist and causing high crime among black people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/25/trump-keeps-claiming-that-most-dangerous-cities-america-are-all-run-by-democrats-they-arent/?outputType=amp

 

[sarkwalvein]

Look at this one, top 17 cities out of 20 of the highest crime cities are Democratic run, only 1 republican city is high crime. If you make the same correlation equals causation argument chibimofo is saying you can say therefore Democratic policies causes high crime in these cities. Why go after Republicans, its the Democrat policies that are racist and causing high crime among black people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/25/trump-keeps-claiming-that-most-dangerous-cities-america-are-all-run-by-democrats-they-arent/?outputType=amp

Yep, and many people believe in the correlation equals causation argument, sadly, and this is exploited often to generate a shocking reaction (as usually they are a "proof" of something outrageous) and get views. But that's not news, yellow press existed as long as press itself.

 

[SG854]

Most of the international airports are also in democratic areas. the earlier massive outbreaks was a result of novel viral spread before we could test and track. That is why it raged so hard in New York and the surrounding states (spread through mass transit such as subway and bus in the tri-state area). most if not all spread since march has been from community transmission, and the states that shut down early and stayed closed longer are not surging. also, democratic states aren't cooking their fucking books like Florida and Georgia. Anyone with a brain can see that super spreader events like open beaches, bars, and shopping with masks is causing explosions in community spread. The scientific community knows that this virus has been kicking around since at least last October, and was in multiple countries including Europe by December. It made it's way to the united states mostly from European travel, since Asian travel was locked down, and the infection latency period can be as long as 14 days.

Can you really blame people when the Who and CDC are giving conflicting information.

Who said Asymptomatic spread is very rare, while presymptomatic people spreads it easier. But another doctor saying Asymptomatic people can spread it just as much as presymptomatic people. It makes people loose faith with our health professionals, when they keep contradicting each other and don't know what to believe. Listen to the experts, but which expert.

 

[Seliph]

I blame American Capitalism for the high numbers. Oligarchies are terrible at handling any form of natural disaster in a humanitarian way, and Fascists even worse (just look at Brazil which is slowly gaining on the US in numbers), though they fraternize quite often.

The main problem in the US is that Conservatives are too stubborn to wear masks or take any proper precautions and Liberals are too weak to stop Conservatives from being idiots. It's quite frustrating because we could have nipped this whole pandemic in the bud but Capitalists won't do shit unless it earns them money. Just look at Vietnam, they've handled the whole thing quite admirably.

 

[osaka35]

Take care of yourself before you care of others

We put ourselves last why self care should be a priority

Self care is not selfish

Meditate and Relax with deep breaths for deep reflection

You interpreted "me before anyone else" as "self-care"? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 

[omgcat]

Can you really blame people when the Who and CDC are giving conflicting information.

Who said Asymptomatic spread is very rare, while presymptomatic people spreads it easier. But another doctor saying Asymptomatic people can spread it just as much as presymptomatic people. It makes people loose faith with our health professionals, when they keep contradicting each other and don't know what to believe. Listen to the experts, but which expert.

huh, it almost seems like science doesn't immediately have all the right answers, and some times more research leads to changes of stances. Imagine thinking that a group needs to be correct 100% of the time and the second they are slightly wrong once, we throw them out. imagine feeling that someone or some entity changing it's mind is bad. It's stupid as hell.

 

[Xzi]

It's a fucking pandemic, it doesn't discriminate based on political affiliation, though obviously one party in particular has (stupidly) decided to politicize public safety measures such as mask wearing and social distancing. Additionally, anybody who hasn't realized by now that Trump only cares about what happens to Trump is a dumbass, full stop. The federal response was and continues to be botched to the fullest possible extent. We couldn't have possibly managed 40x 9/11 in casualties otherwise, with many more to come. Protect yourselves and protect your family and friends, because nobody else is gonna do it for you.

 

[morvoran]

13 of them are testing more people for covid-19 (and having lower death counts) while the others are letting their citizens gather in protests, loot, burn down, and take over their cities. That's what the 13 have in common.

 

[SG854]

huh, it almost seems like science doesn't immediately have all the right answers, and some times more research leads to changes of stances. Imagine thinking that a group needs to be correct 100% of the time and the second they are slightly wrong once, we throw them out. imagine feeling that someone or some entity changing it's mind is bad. It's stupid as hell.

If asymptomatic people listens to what WHO says that they can't spread covid 19 as much very rarely don't be surprised when asymptomatic people break stay at home orders after loosing their jobs. And don't be surprised when people use what the CDC says to argue with what the people who use what the WHO says and everybody is just confused.

 

[TimPV3]

Lazy posts like these are why people think Dems and Libs are dumb. Way to go OP.

 

[Roamin64]

Don't forget, black lives matter.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Don't forget, black lives matter.

Black lives do matter, but not sure what are you trying to say.

If you imply demostrations increased contagion and number of Covid cases, quite probably they did.

 

[Xzi]

Black lives do matter, but not sure what are you trying to say.

If you imply demostrations increased contagion and number of Covid cases, quite probably they did.

And let's not forget that protests/demonstrations were already happening well before George Floyd's murder, organized by a different set of political groups for very different reasons. "MuH hAiRcuT, mUH eCoNOmy!"

Obviously it's nigh impossible to follow social distancing guidelines while part of a large protest group, so you're much more likely to be infected even while wearing a mask. What it then comes down to is whether you believe what you're protesting for is truly worth the increased risk or not.

 

[morvoran]

Since the OP seems to like pointing out statistics that try to push an agenda, here are some real facts about covid and party affiliation:


Covid cases. Of the top 20 states of total covid cases, 9 are ran by Republican Governors while 11 are democrat governors. Not good for the repugs who are not out pillaging, huh, comrads? Oh, wait.....

Total Deaths from Covid... Now take these numbers with a grain of salt as some states (NJ for example) include all deaths as Covid deaths.
According to this chart, 8 of the top 20 states for deaths by covid are ran by Republican Governors while 12 are ran by democrat governors. Notice how the top 2 states are not only democrat, but also greatly higher than the rest of the states with New York being almost double of New Jersey.

Now, when we go by capita, the results get a little more detailed on who is losing the most percentage of their citizens.

Of the top 12 states for covid deaths per 100,000 people, only 2 states are ran by Republican Governors. Looks very bad for the Democrats.

Maybe, instead of encouraging little idiots to hang out in huge numbers and pull down statues while also burning down black owned businesses and communities and spreading covid like rabid animals, these democrat governors can start bringing law and order back into their states and protect their law abiding citizens.

 

[notimp]

My interpretation, they are rising because of this:


or something similar. Like Trump townhalls.. (Could also be demonstrations, but you cant just turn off demonstrations either...)

Also, they are expected to rise, after people got tired of quarantine measures. We knew for a long time, that 'the warm summer' wouldnt just 'make it go away' on its own. (The idea was, that less people would be crammed into tight spaces, and that that would help, but it doesnt, if they are now crammed on beaches.. ).

Coming back to what I actually wanted to say - they (new infection numbers) are expected to rise again, but not at a rate of 5% each day. Thats a little much.

 

[Xzi]

My interpretation, they are rising because of this:


or something similar. Like Trump townhalls.. (Could also be demonstrations, but you cant just turn off demonstrations either...)

Also, they are expected to rise, after people got tired of quarantine measures. We knew for a long time, that 'the warm summer' wouldnt just 'make it go away' on its own. (The idea was, that less people would be crammed into tight spaces, and that that would help, but it doesnt, if they are now crammed on beaches.. ).

Coming back to what I actually wanted to say - they (new infection numbers) are expected to rise again, but not at a rate of 5% each day. Thats a little much.

Yep. It stands to reason that cities with big protests would see spikes in infections and hospitalizations, but interestingly enough it turns out the numbers don't reflect that. Instead it's states that re-opened early which are now seeing the biggest spikes.

 

[Nerdtendo]

This is a question I've been too afraid to ask and I'm not trying to start anything. I only have a high school education in biology, but don't our bodies develop immunities when exposed to viruses? I think it's called active natural immunity but I could be misremembering. Does this just not happen with Covid?
Again, not trying to start anything. I'm fine listening to whatever my government tells me to do. I just don't fully understand how the virus is supposed to go away by itself

 

[Taleweaver]

do you ignore the fact that European countries are having spikes also?

Nothing to ignore if it isn't true.

Look... Our scientists are (rightfully) warning that the infection rate is resurging again, while our medical personnel warns that we haven't yet have the supplies we've used during the first wave. So we'red certainly not in any safe zone yet. But in actual infection rate? Nope. There's not a single European country (EU or otherwise) that's anywhere even in the area of close to the top of their infection rate. The importance of @ChibiMofo 's most should be that an alarming amount of states have record numbers of cases, NOT whichever fucking politician' s party is leading it.

 

[notimp]

Yep. It stands to reason that cities with big protests would see spikes in infections and hospitalizations, but interestingly enough it turns out the numbers don't reflect that. Instead it's states that re-opened early which are now seeing the biggest spikes.

This seems to indicate that its behavioral. (Peoples behavior is not 'informed' by risk anymore.. )