TheDestroyer said:Nintendo should provide free internet (like kindles?) for these consoles, now we're talkin.. lol
technically internet is not free on it... you pay about a 50 dollar fee (included in the price of the unit). thats why the 'wifi' only unit is 50 bucks cheaper.
my opinion:
if you cant install games (or if its restrictive like the 360, which is improbable since that would defeat the purpose of installing to not carry carts around), bring on the flashcart. i refuse to carry multiple games around.
also, a flashcart might be preferable anyways if you cant install to sd, since games might be large and the mem on the 3ds probably wont carry much anyways
QUOTE(Dangy @ Oct 1 2010, 02:02 PM) If the 3DS wasn't so expensive, I wouldn't mind buying games. But Nintendo has forced me to side with the pirates on this one.
MFDC12 said:have they even released to prices of games yet? or is everything just speculated
QUOTE said:Mr Iwata said many people in the past did not updated their system's firmware, so he is looking for new ways to bring updates to the users.
AmitZ said:Before I start my post I have to say that here in GBAtemp i'm usually a lurker. I rarely, rarely post something, but piracy is something that really anger me, and I thought I should finally hear my voice.
I really hope that the 3DS won't be hacked. That will stop all those damn parasite pirate who steal and leech off people hard work.
I mean, it's really sad to see how common piracy has gotten and how it impact sales and, more importantly, how it discourages developers from releasing good games instead of quick buck shovelwere (see: Wii).
Up until recently I was a pirate even though I did have money to buy games (And games here cost quite a bit, even imported), but I didn't buy games claiming I had "Better use for the money". About 10 months ago I was recruited to the army, as it is mandatory here in Israel. When you're in the army you get each month a very very low salary (~700 NIS which is roughly $200 a month) and even despite the low paycheck, or even because of it, I decided that I will not pirate anymore. True, I don't get to play every game I want, but games that I really want to play, I import and play them. There's just something really rewarding in playing a game you know you earned with your own sweat and money.
That being said, something that really make me angery is people who come up with that sad, sad argument that they pirate because "They don't have money". OK, you don't have money? DON'T BUY IT! definitely don't pirate it, because if you pirate it, it's like you essenitally STEAL it. Say what you want, but if you were at a gaming store and saw a game you want, but you didn't have the money for it, would you steal it? Of course not. Then what so different in piracy? Well, that simple. It's just the fact that it's it like the rest of the internet and particulary 4chan, the fact that in the internet you're anonymous and no one can "see" you, know who you are or know what are you doing, making it so much mentally easier to downloaded a game from the comfortness of your own house. Not to mention it's so damn easy, simple and cheap to pirate.
If the 3DS won't be hacked, or in a worse scanrio, will be hacked but will be very hard and/or expensive to hack, it will force a lot of pirates to buy games, thus raising sales, or in other cases, when people still refuse to buy games, it will make them stop playing completely, thus at least they're not using something they didn't PAY for.
I don't think there's a single possible situation that could occur to make me think "gee, Nintendo really sure could use more of my money!" I mean, the third-party support on the 3DS is going to be huge granted, but there's a happy medium between pirating and paying. A lot of companies really aren't being hurt at all by pirating (Nintendo, The Pokemon Company, etc.), sure they're making a bit less money, but they're still sweating gold from their pores when you take into account how much they charge and the ratio of pirates to purchasers. I don't feel bad about downloading Wii Sports Resort after I shell out $300 for the system, plus another $200 in peripherals to Nintendo, and I don't think anyone else should either.AmitZ said:Before I start my post I have to say that here in GBAtemp i'm usually a lurker. I rarely, rarely post something, but piracy is something that really anger me, and I thought I should finally hear my voice.
I really hope that the 3DS won't be hacked. That will stop all those damn parasite pirate who steal and leech off people hard work.
I mean, it's really sad to see how common piracy has gotten and how it impact sales and, more importantly, how it discourages developers from releasing good games instead of quick buck shovelwere (see: Wii).
Up until recently I was a pirate even though I did have money to buy games (And games here cost quite a bit, even imported), but I didn't buy games claiming I had "Better use for the money". About 10 months ago I was recruited to the army, as it is mandatory here in Israel. When you're in the army you get each month a very very low salary (~700 NIS which is roughly $200 a month) and even despite the low paycheck, or even because of it, I decided that I will not pirate anymore. True, I don't get to play every game I want, but games that I really want to play, I import and play them. There's just something really rewarding in playing a game you know you earned with your own sweat and money.
That being said, something that really make me angery is people who come up with that sad, sad argument that they pirate because "They don't have money". OK, you don't have money? DON'T BUY IT! definitely don't pirate it, because if you pirate it, it's like you essenitally STEAL it. Say what you want, but if you were at a gaming store and saw a game you want, but you didn't have the money for it, would you steal it? Of course not. Then what so different in piracy? Well, that simple. It's just the fact that it's it like the rest of the internet and particulary 4chan, the fact that in the internet you're anonymous and no one can "see" you, know who you are or know what are you doing, making it so much mentally easier to downloaded a game from the comfortness of your own house. Not to mention it's so damn easy, simple and cheap to pirate.
If the 3DS won't be hacked, or in a worse scanrio, will be hacked but will be very hard and/or expensive to hack, it will force a lot of pirates to buy games, thus raising sales, or in other cases, when people still refuse to buy games, it will make them stop playing completely, thus at least they're not using something they didn't PAY for.
monaug5 said:I think it is a good move.
It is time that these game companies start to cash in from the labour of creating what we pirates have taken for free.
The fact that nothing is stolen. Durrrrrr.t^2 said:If Nintendo really thinks that non-user-approved auto-updates are the solution to piracy on the 3DS, they're sadly mistaken.Since you're claiming it won't work and there's a better way, why don't you explain yourself? I'm certainly interested in hearing it.
QUOTE(AmitZ @ Oct 1 2010, 03:23 PM) definitely don't pirate it, because if you pirate it, it's like you essenitally STEAL it. Say what you want, but if you were at a gaming store and saw a game you want, but you didn't have the money for it, would you steal it? Of course not. Then what so different in piracy?
I'm not claiming there's a better way, I'm simply claiming that this won't work. I know enough about programming to know that a workaround can be created for auto-updating. Flashcard manufacturers can also update their firmware to workaround new updates, much like they do now.Rydian said:Since you're claiming it won't work and there's a better way, why don't you explain yourself? I'm certainly interested in hearing it.
DiscostewSM said:How do you beat a hacker? Simple, you form a team consisting of very capable hackers to find ways to hack into the system while keeping the discoveries confidential, then fixing the problem before anyone can attempt to use the possible openings.
AmitZ said:I rarely, rarely post something, but piracy is something that really anger me
Game cartridges will also contain firmware updates.ZeWarrior said:EDIT: And towards the title: What if someone never connected their 3DS to the internet?