"A system update is required to use the microsdxc memory card" - what to do

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I didn't say corrupting data, I said corrupting the SD card. You clearly hasn't been paying enough attention to the scene the last few years.
Go and do a quick search on Google, or even here. You'll find plenty of SD cards literally destroyed because of the exFAT driver. And let's not forget the low-quality SD port on the console.
That is simply untrue.

You got proof that they mix third party stuffs with stuffs that is being sold by Amazon?

Google it my dude, it's been happening for years. When a seller selling the same product as Amazon wants it to be fufilled by Amazon, they provide Amazon with their own stock and if it's an identical product it gets mixed in with Amazon's own stock under the assumption that it is real.

It's entirely likely that Amazon has now implemented stricter measures to prevent receiving fakes but outside of simply not mixing them it's basically impossible to actually stop this from happening. If I send in a pallet with 1500 fake SD cards on it and make the top couple layers the real ones, I'd probably still make money and nobody at Amazon is going to check the packaging on every one on that pallet (and some of the fakes have packaging that is almost identical to the real thing).

They would have to track which pallet every single order came from (which they might already do with binning) and then associate each seller with their own pallets, which is probably too confusing for their employees to handle while also processing thousands of orders.
 

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Google it my dude, it's been happening for years.

Lol see you got no proof that Amazon mix their own stuffs with third party sellers.

I'm not going to list a bunch of links (that will probably get removed) for you when you can literally Google "Amazon fake SD card mixing" and find a dozen articles about it.
 

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Lol see you got no proof that Amazon mix their own stuffs with third party sellers.
This guy has clearly no idea about what he's talking, on any topic. Don't bother trying to demand proof from him :rofl:


That is simply untrue.
First, stop double-posting. Read the rules and then learn to use the forum platform properly.
That said, here's just a few links you can find around the web about the Switch's exFAT driver destroying SD cards. Please, let me see your argument aside an empty and worthless "That is simply untrue".

https://gbatemp.net/threads/back-up-emunand-on-thumb-drive.612195/post-9825089
https://nicoverbruggen.be/blog/sd-card-issues-nintendo-switch
https://gbatemp.net/threads/retroarch-exfat-corruption.534362/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-a-bad-idea.545779/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/do-memory-cards-on-exfat-just-break-like-this.604322/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-problematic.603348/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/whats-the-worst-that-can-happen-by-using-exfat.549100/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/78162066

And a few Reddit threads too:



 

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This guy has clearly no idea about what he's talking, on any topic. Don't bother trying to demand proof from him :rofl:



First, stop double-posting. Read the rules and then learn to use the forum platform properly.
That said, here's just a few links you can find around the web about the Switch's exFAT driver destroying SD cards. Please, let me see your argument aside an empty and worthless "That is simply untrue".

https://gbatemp.net/threads/back-up-emunand-on-thumb-drive.612195/post-9825089
https://nicoverbruggen.be/blog/sd-card-issues-nintendo-switch
https://gbatemp.net/threads/retroarch-exfat-corruption.534362/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-a-bad-idea.545779/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/do-memory-cards-on-exfat-just-break-like-this.604322/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-problematic.603348/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/whats-the-worst-that-can-happen-by-using-exfat.549100/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/78162066

And a few Reddit threads too:





It will not destroy the card, do your research kid

That happens with every single console when you plug an SD for the first time. The systems needs to download and install the exFAT driver. Not a big deal.
Format your card to FAT32 after that, since exFAT will mostly ending up destroying your SD card. But download the driver and perform the update first.

Also, staying on 5.1.0 at this point is an absolute insanity, update to the latest firmware ASAP.
 
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This guy has clearly no idea about he's talking about on any topic, don't bother trying to demand proof from him :rofl:



First, stop double-posting. Read the rules and then learn to use the forum platform properly.
That said, here's just a few links you can find around the web about the Switch's exFAT driver destroying SD cards. Please, let me see your argument aside an empty and worthless "That is simply untrue".

https://gbatemp.net/threads/back-up-emunand-on-thumb-drive.612195/post-9825089
https://nicoverbruggen.be/blog/sd-card-issues-nintendo-switch
https://gbatemp.net/threads/retroarch-exfat-corruption.534362/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-a-bad-idea.545779/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/do-memory-cards-on-exfat-just-break-like-this.604322/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-problematic.603348/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/whats-the-worst-that-can-happen-by-using-exfat.549100/
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/78162066

And a few Reddit threads too:




Lol, I'm holding two conversations with two different people replying at two times so I can't exactly merge my replies to both of you every time. Stop trying to be a mod, cuz you aren't one.


https://gbatemp.net/threads/back-up-emunand-on-thumb-drive.612195/post-9825089 - Talks exclusively about data loss, nothing about damaging the SD card.

https://nicoverbruggen.be/blog/sd-card-issues-nintendo-switch -Talks exclusively about data loss as a result of the poorly implemented Switch exFAT driver, nothing about damaging the SD card.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/retroarch-exfat-corruption.534362/ - That entire thread basically talks about only data loss, with several people chiming in to say that they have been using exFAT forever without issue on multiple platforms (not just the Switch).

https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-a-bad-idea.545779/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/do-memory-cards-on-exfat-just-break-like-this.604322/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/is-exfat-still-problematic.603348/
https://gbatemp.net/threads/whats-the-worst-that-can-happen-by-using-exfat.549100/

Every single one of these threads talks about only data loss/file system corruption.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/78162066 - Once again, this entire thread discusses data loss/file system corruption and nothing about "exFAT" destroying SD cards.

I'm sorry to pull this card, but I do software and hardware design and development for a living man. I have a pretty good knowledge of tech and I have been using SD cards pretty much since they became available to consumers. exFAT is simply a file system and due to a number of technical differences from FAT32 and poor driver implementations from vendors, it is more susceptible to data loss/corruption, which cannot damage the card in any way. SD cards literally take a fixed voltage and have communication pins. The file system on them makes no difference to how the card operates physically and simply changes how data is stored across the NAND.

There is no argument here. exFAT has a number of benefits but also sucks because of issues that never seem to be resolved. If it had the capability to destroy an SD card, every single SD card above 32GB on the planet would not ship formatted as exFAT. The reason SD cards die easily is because they are tiny, many are made incredibly cheaply and they tend to get overused because they get put in a device and forgotten about.

If your exFAT card becomes corrupt, simply reformat it and kiss your data goodbye. If it fails any of the SD card tests available on the internet, the card is bad and it would have also failed formatted as FAT32.
 

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Lol, I'm holding two conversations with two different people replying at two times so I can't exactly merge my replies to both of you every time.
You can. And you must.

I'm sorry to pull this card, but I do software and hardware design and development for a living man. I have a pretty good knowledge of tech and I have been using SD cards pretty much since they became available to consumers
I do as well, so? What's your point on that? I'm still waiting for proof to back-up your words aside an empty "I said so because I know about it and you don't".
People has been having problems with exFAT on Switch since forever because of problems that aren't going to be solved. The op of this thread asked about help with that. Trying to act smart when we are trying to help him will only make you appear on /iamverysmart and nothing else.
You are not helping, just being annoying smh
 

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You can. And you must.


I do as well, so? What's your point on that? I'm still waiting for proof to back-up your words aside an empty "I said so because I know about it and you don't".
People has been having problems with exFAT on Switch since forever because of problems that aren't going to be solved. The op of this thread asked about help with that. Trying to act smart when we are trying to help him will only make you appear on /iamverysmart and nothing else.
You are not helping, just being annoying smh
Where exactly is your proof? Every link you posted talks about file system corruption which you can recover the SD card from by formatting it... At no point did I say exFAT does not have corruption issues, especially on the Switch. I specifically have my 256 GB Nintendo SD card formatted as FAT32 because of how crappy their exFAT driver is, but it does not irreversibly damage SD cards formatted as exFAT..

The onus of proof is not on me. You are the one making a claim you cannot back up...
 

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Where exactly is your proof? Every link you posted talks about file system corruption which you can recover the SD card from by formatting it... At no point did I say exFAT does not have corruption issues, especially on the Switch. I specifically have my 256 GB Nintendo SD card formatted as FAT32 because of how crappy their exFAT driver is, but it does not irreversibly damage SD cards formatted as exFAT..

The onus of proof is not on me. You are the one making a claim you cannot back up...
I backed-up my statement several times, while your only "back-up" is saying I don't have one. If you are gonna say I'm wrong, then prove me wrong.
Otherwise, you are wrong. And you are wrong, we know you are, and you do as well. If you don't show me proof like I actually did, then you are lying. "You are wrong but I don't have to prove it" is not a valid argument :rofl2:
 

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