ATTEN: Tempest Stormwind

[kiczek]

Tempest Stormwind

Why do u lock ur news topics on the main page ? afraid of comments ?
you do know that your news posts are lame don't you ?
u deserve getting flamed for the amount of stupidity in them OOOHHH new demos == BS

do you really think people who pirate GBA games care about PC GAME demos ?

put out some real news like umm

The_Sims2_AlcoholClone-CLONEGAME.
Burnout_3_USA_XBOXDVD-USA
Silent_Hill_4-USA-XBOX-RETAIL-DAGGER

u'll prolly ban me for posting my opinions bc it seems to happen to just about everyone.

Discussing my opinion should not get me banned! vote on it. I bet you no one cares tell us whats new in GBA or shut up.
-kiczek

 

[djnaff]

warez

/weirz/ n. Widely used in cracker subcultures to
denote cracked version of commercial software, that is versions from
which copy-protection has been stripped. Hackers recognize this
term but don't use it themselves

roms are cracked cart images of commercial software

 

[fluffykiwi]

I think I'll add my own opinions on some of this thread, as I've just worked my way through it and have nothing better to do for a few minutes.

I think jumpman does a good job on his news posts, they dont interest me, mostly, but seem to generate a reasonable amount of interest.
His news....his decision on content.

On the front pages I'd prefer to see just GBAish related news, purely for personal reasons as this is my main reason for visiting the site.

Maybe remove the non GBA related news in the front page summary? Maybe keep console info as well, it relates to the GBA's future...sort of!

I'd really dislike to see and PC/Xbox/PS2 etc WAREZ release info being included on the front page for the same reason I'd like the front page GBAish related.

On a personal basis I frequent other places for these.

Listing WAREZ releases for PC/Xbox/PS2 would not make the site in any way illegal and if someone wished to create a thread, similar to Jumpman's, but for these types of release it would in no way be putting the site at risk. BUT would the people hosting understand that?? If the hosting company object then including this may close the site.

If the hosting company have no problem then the moderators shouldnt mind, but it may attract the wrong type of members. (lots of where can I get this style posters)

As to whether this site is a warez site is purely arguing about dictionary definitions, Rom sites are illegal, Rom information sites are not.

NFOs are legal, NFOs with a serial in it, like many Warez app ones, are illegal.

So I for one would prefer the site to remain legal and OPEN.

btw I'd like to see Speechless back, BUT there NEEDS to be an end to the flaming. There NEEDS to be an agreement to disagree on many matters. Let the forums remain civil and the mIRC channel likewise.

I like both for different reasons and what is acceptable in one may not be acceptable in the other.

I'd personally agree that posting the image of Mario is no more offensive than the rude nick, but I'd remove BOTH myself for a forum like this one, where many of the visitors are likely to be very young, and where young visitors are encouraged.

Whereas mIRC is an environment where the very young shouldnt be visiting, security issues, porn links, abusive language etc.

 

[Inu268]

ok so we are a warez site,end of discussion...now that everyone is happy why we were discussing if we are or we arent a warez site anyway?

 

[Tempest Stormwin]

warez

/weirz/ n. Widely used in cracker subcultures to
denote cracked version of commercial software, that is versions from
which copy-protection has been stripped. Hackers recognize this
term but don't use it themselves

roms are cracked cart images of commercial software

Except I fail to see how you draw one step in your logic:

1) Roms are warez. [Okay, good.]
2) Rom sites are warez sites. [Still with you.]
3) GBAtemp is therefore a warez site. [Hold the phone on that one.]

GBAtemp isn't a rom site. By your definition and the ones Zarcon posted, we are not a warez site either. If you want to see us as one, fine. If you want to see IGN.com as an adult site since they discuss things possibly rated higher than T, you can too, but it won't change the fact that you'd be wrong.

On an unrelated note, Speechless, stop double-accounting and demanding an unban. What you did earlier is inexcusable, and as a result you will remain banned, and doing this is not helping you any. Even your supposed reason for making this new account (contacting me) is flawed, as I am really not that hard to find off of this forum (many members can attest to this). If you wanted to remain active here as a member, then you shouldn't have abused your trust and gone on a power trip. The channel and the forum are separate entities, run in different ways by different people. Just as you expect us to abide by your rules in #gbatemp, we expect you to behave by ours on GBAtemp.net. A sentence means nothing if it is not upheld.

-Tempest out.-

 

[Bitbyte]

I'm with speechless, djnaff,kiczek,and the other irc ppl, after all they get all the roms, without them a lot of the rom info's you see here wouldn't even be on the frontpage. So stop talking shit ffs... kiczek is just a good fella who distributes roms on his private ftp. And you may say speechless acts like a prick here, but on irc he's one of the first to help someone...

THEY are the real "brains" behind gbatemp...

 

[phuzzz]

But you see, that's the problem. He might be a good guy on the channel, but he's an ass here. What happens on the channel, stays on the channel. What happens on the forum, stays on the forum. They are both completely seperate.

 

[Tempest Stormwin]

And once again Phuzzz bears the collective voice of the forum.

In reality, there are similar precedents. The Dalai Lama is in trouble with China, for instance, despite being universally recognized as one of the greatest men alive, mostly because he will almost certainly upset the way China works.

Speech may be the freakin' son of God for all I care. That doesn't change the fact that on this forum, he's been an ass multiple times in the face of moderator warnings, AND that he abused trust laid in his hands by an admin, and as a result, he will remain banned.

Now, any further flaming or pleading for a reversal will result in this topic being locked. I don't want to do that, and I think you don't either, but I will if I have to.

-Tempest out.-

 

[Dragonlord]

I'm with speechless, djnaff,kiczek,and the other irc ppl, after all they get all the roms, without them a lot of the rom info's you see here wouldn't even be on the frontpage. So stop talking shit ffs... kiczek is just a good fella who distributes roms on his private ftp. And you may say speechless acts like a prick here, but on irc he's one of the first to help someone...

THEY are the real "brains" behind gbatemp...

ok boy. now let's put some things straight here.

this forum has NOTHING to do with the channel.

this forum talks about rom releases and many other things, NOT ABOUT THE ROMS THEMSELVES!
the channel provides those roms and works in a completly different way.

so now to your talking there. do you really think just because that channel called #gbatemp has roms they have the right to play god in here and behave like assholes? do you think this channel is the only one on this world serving roms? NO!
so we are not dependable on this channel nor is the channel dependable on us.

speechless and co are ops in the channel, they've got power there and thus we accept their rules and play after them in the channel.
now vice-versa.
here tempest and co are the admins/mods and thus we accept their rules and play after them on the forum.

so if you expect us to behave well in the channel it's more than fair and square to demand the same from those people if they are on this forum. period.

 

[djnaff]

saying the channel has nothing to do with the forum is just wrong.
to alot of gbatemp users they run side by side.

when the channel was started it was started by gbatemp mods most of them are still here and IRC.

yes we both like to keep whats said no the forum on the forum and vice versa (for flood reasons legal and hassle)

But the channel does support the forum
I don't think anyone is acting like a god ( a few people had jumped in feet first on both sides)

this forum talks about rom releases and many other things, NOT ABOUT THE ROMS THEMSELVES

isn't that the same thing
you talk about how to fix them and run them in emulators

but once again this comes up to a matter of opinion

 

[Dragonlord]

only because some people are active in both places doesn't make this forum and the channel connected. how many of the users on the forum or the channel are frequenting the other place too?
for me those two places are not that much linked that you need to think about carrying over powers just like this or thinking you can act in this place like in the other. for me they are just separate.

 

[Tigerbite]

oh boo hoo Tempest is lame for posting for you.

It's still lame.

Telling people about any new game releases would be better and your comments on legality are stupid.
We all know this site is used to get info on illegal rom downloads. Did I say you have to provide links to Torrent sites? umm no I didn't.

You have no clue do you ?

4) If you don't like it, don't read it. Problem solved.
UMM NO it's on the main page. Guess what I'm forced to read it.

2) He locks the main page one because then there would be 2 topics on the news and not 1.
NO he locks it because he doesn't like to get flamed for lame uninteresting news

oh and a big huggles to you both then



-kiczek

Yo kic, remember what happened to gba-nfo right, no links to rom shit, just info, bam they went bye bye...next time they'll think twice before banning me.

Oh yeah, whoever here reads this post and likes gba-nfo, *flips da birdy*

Piraters Suck! *******************************

"I wont put the rest, it'll just get edited for to much cussin anyways"

 

[djnaff]

about 40-50% of the people on IRC visit the forum
not all of them post every day or are members but still visit and read the forum
I for one visit the forum a few times a day but haven't posted for along time
Both were created by gbatemp forum admin so have alot to do with each other
and did once have the same purpose (too chat about the gba scene)

 

[DeMoN]

about 40-50% of the people on IRC visit the forum
not all of them post every day or are members but still visit and read the forum
I for one visit the forum a few times a day but haven't posted for along time
Both were created by gbatemp forum admin so have alot to do with each other
and did once have the same purpose (too chat about the gba scene)

Most people who visit GBAtemp download GBA roms, so they probably all visit the IRC channel. It's always loaded with people whenever I'm there.

 

[lamer-blamer]

oh boo hoo Tempest is lame for posting for you.

It's still lame.

Telling people about any new game releases would be better and your comments on legality are stupid.
We all know this site is used to get info on illegal rom downloads. Did I say you have to provide links to Torrent sites? umm no I didn't.

You have no clue do you ?

4) If you don't like it, don't read it. Problem solved.
UMM NO it's on the main page. Guess what I'm forced to read it.

2) He locks the main page one because then there would be 2 topics on the news and not 1.
NO he locks it because he doesn't like to get flamed for lame uninteresting news

oh and a big huggles to you both then



-kiczek

Yo kic, remember what happened to gba-nfo right, no links to rom shit, just info, bam they went bye bye...next time they'll think twice before banning me.

Oh yeah, whoever here reads this post and likes gba-nfo, *flips da birdy*

Piraters Suck! *******************************

"I wont put the rest, it'll just get edited for to much cussin anyways"

Yo kic, remember what happened to gba-nfo right, no links to rom shit, just info, bam they went bye bye...next time they'll think twice before banning me.


sounds like you have something todo that gba-nfo has been shut down...

 

[Tigerbite]

No shit sherlock. I could probably get gbatemp shutdown to by saying the same thing to there host, but I love the admins here, like naff, thug, and tempest, so I have no reason to attempt to shut there site down. Now if they banned me from here... *shakes angry fist*

 

[Dragonlord]

about 40-50% of the people on IRC visit the forum
not all of them post every day or are members but still visit and read the forum
I for one visit the forum a few times a day but haven't posted for along time
Both were created by gbatemp forum admin so have alot to do with each other
and did once have the same purpose (too chat about the gba scene)

Most people who visit GBAtemp download GBA roms, so they probably all visit the IRC channel. It's always loaded with people whenever I'm there.

like #gbatemp would be the only channel with roms... people just end up there due to the site and the links in this site to the place but it's not necessary in my opinion.

 

[jumpman17]

Hornet? What the crap are you talking about? GBA-nfo got shut down because they were hosting ROMs. They didn't have direct links to them on their site, but they were hosting for other sites.

And, you can't shut GBATemp down by telling the host that we have ROMs? They can check to see what files are uploaded and they'll see no ROMs, and there just wonder what the heck your talking about.

 

[phuzzz]

Listen, I ain't saying that the channel and the forum don't have a similar audience. And with that, we also have a similar amount of people that don't talk. And we also both have a set of rules. Now, think of this senario. Tempest decides to be an complete jackass for one night (don't ask me why, just go with it). And he gets on the channel and starts pushin' all the buttons of the ops. Now, would you guys let him get away with it JUST because he's Tempest, or would you deal with him? The fact that speechless is banned has absolutely nothing to do with his name, or him stating his opinions. As a matter of fact, most of you have stated your opinions on this thread that have been.... shall we say, contradictive of what some of the mods have said. That doesn't mean your banned! It means you have a right to an opinion and you stated it. But in that same aspect, we have a right to say that you're wrong. It goes both ways people. Free speech ain't the right to say whatever you want, it's the fact that you gotta listen to what everybody else wants to say and live with it.

Speechless was banned for being a jerk and not stoping when he was asked to. That's it. There's nothing else to it. He gets no special attention, as no one else here does. Everyone has to respect the rules.

 

[Myke]

ya kno...I have noticed this. People from the GBATEMP IRC channel hate the gbatemp forumers. I say slipt them up. And find your roms somewhere else (be creative)

 

[Chronickilla]

Speechles RULZZZZZZZZZZZ