Quietly following on the heels of the injunction ruling against Yuzu emulator that resulted in its removal and ceased development, popular Nintendo 3DS emulator Citra is following suit. Yuzu's parent company, Tropic Haze LLC, is also the owner of the development team for Citra 3DS emulator, and because of the recent ruling, Citra has also met the same fate. As of current writing, Citra has been removed from download on its official website, and the Citra GitHub repository has been taken down as well.

An official statement from Bunnei, a representative for both Citra and Yuzu, was posted on the Discord channel for Yuzu, saying that they never intended to allow piracy to impact Nintendo, and that playing games on "unauthorized hardware" is harmful, so development on both emulators will cease as of today. Citra's Discord server has also locked itself down, following the announcement.

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[deinonychus71]

Always love those corporate puppies.

Ah yes, I must apologize, I'm no hero, It takes a whole lot of courage to play games for free and defy the company that makes them.
In the name of preservation, of course

 

[Hassal]

Nothing you said had anything to do with "people's rights".
"Pirating a game because it doesn't cost them anything" isn't a right.
"Testing a game before buying" isn't a right.
Entertainment is a luxury, there is no "right" to be automatically granted access to it.
It's a lesson people normally learn early in life.

Being mad and threatening companies because you don't get to play what you want when you want isn't going to change that. On the contrary. You're giving ground for their actions.

Now if you and your friend want to pirate for whatever reason, whether you think them ethical or not, that's your problem really, nobody is gonna go after you. But let's drop the act, you do it for yourself, because it's free and you don't wanna pay the right to play the game, and for nothing else. Certainly not for game preservation or to make any sort of ethical statement.

If there's gymnastics here you're full of it. I was talking about piracy not people rights, but just to push you over your "mental gymnastics", yes it is my right to test games before they get my money.


People's right is the complete ownership of the things they bought without being dictated by a corporates dick entity. If I dump my own shit to play it on another medium that's my right. People using it as means to pirate games is irrelevant and like I said have no impact whatsoever.

 

[eyeliner]

Were talking about a $65bn company VS a small team of devs, it's not caving it's them not wanting to spend the rest of their life in prison over emulation.

They would never go to prison because of this.

Thing is, justice is extremely pricey. It aids big companies in stomping smaller ones and individuals to basically starve others for money.

Nintendo saw a loophole and went in. Greed from the devs was the sole responsible.

Nintendo won big time. A capable emulator's source code, shot down two emulators in one fell swoop, and came out laughing.

They should have gone with the "support me" approach instead of "be my patron". But all that means nothing now.

I never used Citra, as there's no way I can see it emulating my favorite line of portable consoles and have no computer for Yuzu (and have two samiches already), but I suggest people to buy used. And flashcarts. Guess what I do.

Nintendo can love themselves, in my book. I don't pirate as much, but still they don't see my coin in they pockets.

 

[ertaboy356b]

Nothing you said had anything to do with "people's rights".
"Pirating a game because it doesn't cost them anything" isn't a right.
"Testing a game before buying" isn't a right.
Entertainment is a luxury, there is no "right" to be automatically granted access to it.
It's a lesson people normally learn early in life.

Being mad and threatening companies because you don't get to play what you want when you want isn't going to change that. On the contrary. You're giving ground for their actions.

Now if you and your friend want to pirate for whatever reason, whether you think them ethical or not, that's your problem really, nobody is gonna go after you. But let's drop the act, you do it for yourself, because it's free and you don't wanna pay the right to play the game, and for nothing else. Certainly not for game preservation or to make any sort of ethical statement.

But... Think about the underprivileged people that are too poor to buy games so they run it on their Steam Decks and Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 12GB RAM devices

 

[JeepX87]

The Supreme Court has a six to three conservative majority. Pretty safe to assume atleast five of the conservative judges would favor a massive corporation over the little guy.

Like ruling on legality of VCR in 1980s, US Supreme Court is complicated, so emulators and VCR aren’t part of political view that support or against. There were some progressives ruled against on VCR. As for emulators, that is going to depends on how law is written, so ruling is likely to be mixed at best, such as emulator can be used at no charge and fair use, but can’t monetize the emulator or promote the piracy directly.

 

[Acid_Snake]

I feel Citra at least is less of a target though, since the lawsuit was focused on Yuzu. Citra shutting down was more so an added bonus for Nintendo since they could kill 2 bird with one stone. Hence why I think an actively developed Citra fork is more likely than an actively developed Yuzu fork

Neither Yuzu nor Citra were the real targets, the real end goal of Nintendo was to scare off anyone from making an emulator for their upcoming system (Switch U or whatever they end up calling it). They went after the team they thought were more than likely to make a good working emulator, while also scaring off the other devs.
They couldn't care less about Yuzu or Citra, they know the internet will archive them to hell and back, and they know the code is open source so nothing stops anyone from continuing the work in the shadows and do anonymous releases.
No, they made this move ahead of the next system release to secure the next system, not the current one.

 

[Bladexdsl]

They went after the team they thought were more than likely to make a good working emulator, while also scaring off the other devs.

lol wat yuzu was stealing code from ryu!

 

[fout21]

I'm afraid Nintendo has started a war now. Even more people wil be fine with piracy. Closing the eShop and kill the 3DS and afterwards kill the emulator. This is bad.

 

[rcpd]

Dang it. I'm a MacOS user, and Citra was basically the only 3DS emulator that worked any good for MacOS. I have the latest update, but that means I've gotten the last update as well.

Guess I'm done here with it. I'll just go back to playing on my N3DS.

 

[EpikJimmer]

Why am I not even surprised..?

 

[Hassal]

But... Think about the underprivileged people that are too poor to buy games so they run it on their Steam Decks and Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 12GB RAM devices

To the people who share the same "mental gymnastics" as said by an individual answer this:.

How did they manage to sell over 20m copies within the first 6 months of launch? They made 1.4b in revenue just from one game, something unheard of even in the blockbuster film industry. I'm still waiting for them to uncover the latest sales report.

 

[Tuhr]

Nintendo is gaining unfans, things are looking up for Sega.

 

[MadMakuFuuma]

I remembered a post I saw here on GBA temp, in the topic of panda 3ds. Someone asked "why? citra already exists" or something like that

here is the answer. don't take for granted that things are forever. thats why i'm somewhat worried about other "single emulators" too (emulators that don't have alternatives. for example: psx have duckstation, pcsx, rearmed, genesis/megadrive have gens, picodrive, and so on) but ps2 (yes, it have, but not in the same level) , gc/wii, wii-u etc not...

 

[The Real Jdbye]

This is the worst thing I've seen all day. My parents broke my 3DS because I was being impatient on Wii WADs and wanted to take my 3ds to my car the other day and it led to my parents breaking my 3DS. I'm so mad right now. Here's the story:

tl;dr but your parents are crazy. Purposely destroying things with monetary value is not something a sane person would do.

 

[Acid_Snake]

lol wat yuzu was stealing code from ryu!

Do you really think Nintendo cares? All they think about is "who's the most popular? yuzu? let's go after them, the rest will fall on their own".

 

[ninjastarforcex]

maybe next time pirates would learn to SHUT UP and stay low profile instead of bragging and sharing everything about piracy/leaks on mainstream social media like twitter and youtube.
I'm surprised it took them THIS long to take down modern emulators.

It's like none of you know "hide your power level" principle anymore.

 

[MadMakuFuuma]

and it looks like yuzu variations have already started popping up. on the "slim girl" page (you know who im talking about XD) someone posted that two variations already released: Nuzu and Suyu

 

[deinonychus71]

If there's gymnastics here you're full of it. I was talking about piracy not people rights, but just to push you over your "mental gymnastics", yes it is my right to test games before they get my money.


People's right is the complete ownership of the things they bought without being dictated by a corporates dick entity. If I dump my own shit to play it on another medium that's my right. People using it as means to pirate games is irrelevant and like I said have no impact whatsoever.

I mean I went to look at your original post again and you definitely talk about "people's right" when it comes to playing video games, which... yeah no, still not it.

I agree that the law is shit when it comes to not fully owning what you buy, or be able to rip it and do whatever you want. In an ideal world you would buy you game and you could back it up, play it wherever you want and mod it. In an ideal world no game would be left behind to die because companies can't be bothered to maintain an online store or provide a way to self-backup.
I absolutely agree, and people working on emulators, jailbreak primarily have that ideal in mind with their work.

But then... if you believe that it's how it should be, you should be first in line to criticize those who not only pirated an unreleased game, but bragged about it, posted content under embargo and made sure Nintendo knew about it.
They confirmed with a bang the bias Nintendo already had. That no, people aren't "buying" their game and then ripping it to enhance them, or backup them, they just pirate it and profit off the community's tools.

You can hate Nintendo all you want (and let's be honest, it's not a Nintendo special they all think alike) I couldn't care less. What makes no sense is the refusal to acknowledge the part of the responsibility of those who very much damaged the community for selfish reasons.

 

[Bladexdsl]

and it looks like yuzu variations have already started popping up. on the "slim girl" page (you know who im talking about XD) someone posted that two variations already released: Nuzu and Suyu

DMCA in 3..2...1

 

[ninjastarforcex]

I mean I went to look at your original post again and you definitely talk about "people's right" when it comes to playing video games, which... yeah no, still not it.

I agree that the law is shit when it comes to not fully owning what you buy, or be able to rip it and do whatever you want. In an ideal world you would buy you game and you could back it up, play it wherever you want and mod it. In an ideal world no game would be left behind to die because companies can't be bothered to maintain an online store or provide a way to self-backup.
I absolutely agree, and people working on emulators, jailbreak primarily have that ideal in mind with their work.

But then... if you believe that it's how it should be, you should be first in line to criticize those who not only pirated an unreleased game, but bragged about it, posted content under embargo and made sure Nintendo knew about it.
They confirmed with a bang the bias Nintendo already had. That no, people aren't "buying" their game and then ripping it to enhance them, or backup them, they just pirate it and profit off the community's tools.

You can hate Nintendo all you want (and let's be honest, it's not a Nintendo special they all think alike) I couldn't care less. What makes no sense is the refusal to acknowledge the part of the responsibility that is very much on a part of the community for damaging an ideal over selfish interests.

This.
Modern pirates are VERY NARCISSISTIC. they just can't help but to show off their dick (pirated content) to the whole world.
What the fuck did you expect would happen if you keep poking the bear? (corporations, copyright holders, government, law enforcers, etc etc)

stay under the radar
stay low profile
hide your power level
gatekeep piracy

piracy should be done in secrecy, not openly.