Argentum Vir said:
Hells Malice said:
Argentum Vir said:
ShadowSoldier said:
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no you dont. you have just gotten used to the auto aim that consoles give you. even on multiplayer. keyboard and mouse will always be more accurate and even comfortable.
This I disagree with, I don't know what auto aim you're talking about, but comfort and better accuracy for me comes in the form of a controller. And while I could get it for PC, what's the point of paying extra for it when it comes free with the console, which I already prefer.
I get pissed about auto aim when I snipe on MW2. ON multiple occasions I had just fired and someone ran in front of my reticule and directed the fire to the left or right of my intended traget. Also the M & K combo may be more accurate, but it isn't suited for some people. Take me for example, when I get worked up when I'm doing bad ass on TDM I twitch. On a M & K I hit the wrong buttons. I get pissed off and do so much worse. Also I am definitely not going to buy a controller for my PC because that would ruin the experience for me.
Aim Assist is stupid on all accounts. It's one more way game devs casual the FPS market up.
Aim assist is essentially required for consoles. It sucks when it causes misfires, but you'd barely ever hit your target otherwise.
Have you ever tried to betray a teammate on a game like Halo? You don't auto aim on your teammates and it makes aiming at them MUCH harder.
A thumbstick is just too inaccurate overall to work without AA.
Fallout 3/NV for PC (and probably console too) show this very well too. People always complain about how hard it is it aim on F3/NV with a controller, and that's because they don't use aim assist outside of VATs. Or if it does use AA, it doesn't use much.
No, it isn't. Seriously, when I feel like being a dick, or I'm pissed I do team stalking sessions. This is where I look for someone with a killstreak and kill them. Then the fun starts. I have to kill him and perhaps his little buddies too. I do all this without the so called aim assist that the consoles apparently need. My friend does the same thing. Also with what you're telling me is that people who use gamepads instead of the M & K on the computer need aim assist as well? Bullshit, I see some people who have controllers that are miles better than people with a M & K on the PC.
ALSO, NPC =/= players. NPCs know when to move, and dodge. People who play competitively have distinct movements that their bodies can replicate over and over because they have done them so much. FO/NV shouldn't even be compared to games such as COD, or halo. Besides people dies so much faster in COD than halo so I guess what you're saying is Haloers need aim assist to be good.
Lol? CoD has shitty straight-shooting guns that kill you in 2 bullets. You don't need aim assist because the second you're shot at, you're dead.
In Halo you need to, generally, keep your gun trained on a person. Which requires MUCH better aiming, especially at long distances.
So hey, maybe Halo players do need more AA, but that's only because you actually need to use a HELL of a lot more skill that would be impossible on a console without AA, unlike CrapOfDuty...where skill is a foreign concept, but straight shooting guns in a 'realistic' shooter isn't.
I guarantee consoles need AA over M/K. If you take two equally skilled players (not two randoms where, herpderp, one may be miles better then the other). One with M/K, one with controller, M/K will win. It's a fact. Mice are just much more precise. Thumbsticks are 'precise enough'. You can tell me you "don't need AA", but you're blowing smoke up your own ass. You're wrong. The team killing thing was an example, your teammates don't usually expect you to kill them, so even if it is harder to hit them without AA, it's nothing close to how hard it'd be to kill someone who KNOWS you're attempting to kill them. You need aim assist, you're just pretending consoles don't. You shouldn't bother to think it's a bad thing. It's a way to compensate for the inferiority of thumbsticks, and that's cool, because it works great in most cases.
Also, PC uses very little AA. So little it isn't generally worth mentioning. It just makes FPS smoother and feel less finicky, but it barely helps a player at all.
EDITBEFOREPOST: Play Shadowrun. Enjoy getting your ass grinded into the ground by PC players. The game had problems on console from day one, and that problem was all the console players getting pissed off at PC players. I used to think I sucked at that game when I played on xbox, then I played it on PC and dominated. It was pretty clear to me why.
Dunno where the NPC thing came from, must be replying to someone else. I never mentioned NPCs. FO/NV should definitely be compared to other FPS. With a maxed gunskill and top-tier guns, aiming still feels like shit on a console. There's a reason for that, but I won't tell ya why.
