Boy, do I know that feel.never once protest the organization called CPS? How many families are torn apart every year, a majority of which never end in the parents being convicted of child abuse or the like?
Boy, do I know that feel.never once protest the organization called CPS? How many families are torn apart every year, a majority of which never end in the parents being convicted of child abuse or the like?
You just don't understand how the system works. The adults are getting arrested, and they MUST be arrested. Children do not get arrested. But how do you deal with that? There is no room, money, or workers, to place them in what you would consider a proper foster care. We don't simply "shoo" them back across the border with no adult protection/supervision. In many cases, the adults are tried, documented, and sent back across the border with the children. Sometimes it takes a couple of days. Do you have any clue how many people try this every single day? Bah. Why do I bother? I could type a whole book on this, and you wouldn't understand. But you'll continue to insist that this wasn't being done under Obama, and it's all Trump's fault.This is deranged. You have to find some way of dehumanizing these people or deluding yourself into believing that they somehow "deserve it" just to avoid admitting how morally repugnant this situation has been. Even Trump recognized how bad it was for him politically, which is why it was the first thing he's flipped so fast on.
I look forward to when Trump makes land claims on Baja California and New Brunswick!also, how is trumps lame ass equivalent to hitler? where is the MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of deaths from genocide at? c'mon, get real...
I guess I'm curious about why YOU guys weren't furious about stuff like that happening under Obama, since Republican talk show hosts always looked for any kind of dirt on Obama whatsoever they could find, and it took until now for this to reach the public eye.View attachment 132750
You're clueless. Just like every other liberal, you like to cherry pick your information. The first few "internment camp" memes posted by you idiots around Twitter and Facebook were pics from 2014. IF Obama had them?
Trump made a POLICY to enforce a law. Who made the law? Oh, that's right, the current LAW as written was under Bill Clinton. You want to be disgusted, be disgusted with the assholes who are bringing the children in the hopes that they won't get arrested. In a large number of cases, there is no blood relation whatsoever. Many of those kids are being used as shields, mules, and some are victims of human trafficking. The whole breastfeeding baby torn from the mother is simply an outright LIE. Says who? The people that actually work there. But the interviewer (Gail something...) just cut the man off when his reply didn't fit her agenda.
I'd say it's you that doesn't understand how the system works, because no, they don't. A first-time undocumented border crossing is legally a misdemeanor, not a felony. That's like creating a "zero-tolerance" policy where you lock up people who drive above the speed limits and loiter in front of private property, and then take their kids away and house them in a warehouse with no way for the person to easily re-connect with them if they're releasedYou just don't understand how the system works. The adults are getting arrested, and they MUST be arrested.
I actually did. I hated how the GOP treated Obama. I hated how the GOP would deny anything and always went against him, just because he wanted something. Would deny progress, just to spite him.I guess I'm curious about why YOU guys weren't furious about stuff like that happening under Obama, since Republican talk show hosts always looked for any kind of dirt on Obama whatsoever they could find, and it took until now for this to reach the public eye.
You "actually did" what?I actually did. I hated how the GOP treated Obama. I hated how the GOP would deny anything and always went against him, just because he wanted something. Would deny progress, just to spite him.
You "actually did" what?
I think you misunderstood what I was saying, but maybe we're misunderstanding each other lol
I was furious when that stuff happened under Obama.I guess I'm curious about why YOU guys weren't furious about stuff like that happening under Obama
Oh, I see. I was referring to the images of children in thermal blankets from 2014, thoughI was furious when that stuff happened under Obama.
I agree. Playstations at the centers are unacceptable. They should be giving them Switches and a couple dozen of 3ds. Hot meals are way to similar to what they served at Auschwitz, it is disgusting.The parallel between Trump and Hitler is even closer now. These detention centers are a clear human rights violation.
It might surprise you to learn that Auschwitz actually had a swimming pool, and that was a particular positive talking point of how well the Nazis were treating their prisoners (despite the fact that obviously none of the prisoners were allowed to use it, it was strictly for SS officers)I agree. Playstations at the centers are unacceptable. They should be giving them Switches and a couple dozen of 3ds. Hot meals are way to similar to what they served at Auschwitz, it is disgusting.
Clearly you don't understand how the system is working right now. The adults get fast-tracked to deportation while the children are sent to detention centers to be used for political leverage. ICE sucks at record keeping so odds are the majority of children separated from their families and locked up are never going to see their parents again. That's why it's moronic to separate families and why Obama and GWB didn't have the same policy, the logistics alone are a nightmare.You just don't understand how the system works. The adults are getting arrested, and they MUST be arrested. Children do not get arrested.
It could be argued actually that Reagan is single-handedly responsible for the major disparity between the wealthy and lower class due to the shrinking middle class right now, so I guess I don't know if I'd say THAT.@Xzi, jesus, you are stupid. Reagan was a movie star, and he is a revered president by many.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was a movie star, and I assert that he was one of the BEST governors that California has ever seen. Just because the news didn't cover what was going on at the borders during Obama's administration, doesn't mean it wasn't happening. Do I have to fish out every meme used against Trump that used pics from OBAMA'S era again? Nevermind. I'm blocking you. You're a fucking idiot.
Reagan caused a lot of problems that persist in the US to this day, lack of proper mental health treatment being a big one. Not to mention he had prior political experience before running for president. Schwarzenegger I have no real comment on because I've never lived in CA, but the general consensus from others seems mixed at best. Also, reality TV is not the same as movies. People on reality TV tend to be a lot dumber, to the point where they wouldn't even be able to properly act in movies.@Xzi, jesus, you are stupid. Reagan was a movie star, and he is a revered president by many.
Arnold Schwarzenegger was a movie star, and I assert that he was one of the BEST governors that California has ever seen.
Wow, blocked because you can't handle some criticism of Trump. The right wing truly are snowflakes now.Nevermind. I'm blocking you. You're a fucking idiot.
This is completely missing the point. If the process of enforcing deportation is efficient, there's no need for long-term detention facilities to be built in the first place. It's bad enough without forcing taxpayers to foot the bill on something the majority don't agree with.Our Laws and our constitution apply to U.S. Citizens. These illegal immigrants are breaking the law, and they have no rights. Yet they are being treated better than our own homeless. There simply isn't the resources to put them all up in a Holiday Inn Express
Delusional. Republicans will have had complete control for two years at the point of mid-terms. They've gotten next to nothing accomplished other than corporate welfare handouts. That's not change or reform, just more of the same oligarchical bullshit.If Republicans end up with a super-majority after the mid-terms, then prepare to sit back and watch ACTUAL change and reform to happen. If not... then not much is going to change.
You blame Congress. Which has been a majority GOP every time it blocked immigration reform. Now Trump is at the top of the GOP, and he doesn't bare any responsibility for the fact that this is happening on his watch? That's bullshit. The GOP (Trump included) can only pass the buck around so much before admitting they simply have no ideas on how to properly govern. It's all regulatory capture and tearing down essential public services.Speaking of which... not only do I not blame Trump for this, I don't actually blame Obama or Clinton either. I blame CONGRESS. I'm only here because the focus is and has been solely on Trump. And it's bullshit.
Trump signed a piece of paper and family separations stopped. Even if only temporarily. There are a lot of steps his administration could take toward reform, but nobody in his administration has any insight on how to go about it. They'd just fuck everything up and have Trump's supporters play the apologists for him again.EDIT: And by the way, I've said the same thing during Obama's presidency. There are many things he tried to do, that he couldn't, because he couldn't get congress to work together and get things done. Our system is purposely set up so that it is technically IMPOSSIBLE to be in a dictator-like situation. There is NOTHING that the POTUS can do against the will of a united congress. In the same light, there is not much a POTUS can do WITHOUT at least a super-majority of congress to back him up.
Nah, the asshole sealed the fates of all the people who won’t be moving out of this godforsaken country.
immigration reform
No. I went to Germany for a week to meet family though.I'm curious .. have you ever lived for an extended period (at least a year) in any other country, and if you did so were you gainfully employed there and supporting yourself, or were you just a partying student or someone's dependent? I'm just asking because it seems a lot of Americans have strong opinions about their own country without any basis of comparison to how people live, think, and act elsewhere.
What does "immigration reform" entail to you, Xzi? What reforms would be desirable? What would you concede in order to get those reforms?