Hacking Does the Wii DVD Dumper harm the Wii's laser?

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quim69 said:
teq said:
They're both DVD-ROM drives.
No they aren't, as nintendo never licensed the DVD name. They are a Optical Disc technology designed by and licensed to them by panasonic/matsushita (I mean, you even made up that they are designed by lite-on).

Please, what is a wii disc then?

Look Here if you want to see the WOD specification detailed.

Or see Here if you want to see how it differs from a DVD-Rom that adheres to ECMA/ISO standards.

You obviously weren't around when wod images needed unscrambling..


Okay, we're comparing apples and oranges here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the title of this thread pertains to the Wii hardware, not the software and mediums which contain it. I'm talking about the drives themselves(ie: the physical hardware involved) and you're talking about the discs. If this were a topic about Wii disc structure, you would be correct.

With that said, the actual Wii drive(and the Gamecube, for that matter) is a DVD-ROM drive. The mechanics involved in making the disc spin and read are identical to any drive you would pull off a shelf.

The poster asked if a DVD-R can affect the DVD-ROM drive and the answer is that, mechanically, the drives are safe for use with any disc that isn't covered in peanut butter.
 

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teq said:
With that said, the actual Wii drive(and the Gamecube, for that matter) is a DVD-ROM drive.
No it isn't, a DVD-Rom drive is a drive either designed by or licensed by a member of the DVD Forum that adheres to ECMA standards.

The GCN/Wii drives do not - they are produced by one of the members (matsushita) and are licensed by them, but they are not licensed by the DVD-forum and nor do they 100% stick to specifications.

They have been given the informal title of Wii Optical Disc and that is what they are (Not Digital Versatile Disc).

You also claimed WODs don't exist.


QUOTEThe poster asked if a DVD-R can affect the DVD-ROM drive and the answer is that
No the poster did not, look at the title of the topic:
"Does the Wii DVD Dumper harm the Wii's laser"

That is a completely different question, and irrelevant to the current discussion.

The WOD Drive can read DVD's, but it isn't a DVD drive. Just like a Bluray drive can read DVDs but isn't a DVD Drive (or if you prefer legacy, a DVD Drive can read CDs but isn't a CD Drive).
 

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quim69 said:
No it isn't, a DVD-Rom drive is a drive either designed by or licensed by a member of the DVD Forum that adheres to ECMA standards.

The GCN/Wii drives do not - they are produced by one of the members (matsushita) and are licensed by them, but they are not licensed by the DVD-forum and nor do they 100% stick to specifications.

They have been given the informal title of Wii Optical Disc and that is what they are (Not Digital Versatile Disc).

Sigh, words seem to be lost on you...

If I were to open up the disc drive in the Wii and a random, off the shelf DVD-ROM drive, would I not find the following in both:

+ 650nm laser
+ Spindle
+ 120mm tray


So, uh, what exactly about the MECHANICS(licensing is legality, firmware is software) makes the Wii DVD drive any different than one I could buy off the shelf?

quim69 said:
You also claimed WODs don't exist.

Considering this is a HARDWARE question, your 'unofficial' nomenclature was assumed to be referencing HARDWARE; ie: Wii Optical Disc Drive.

You can call it whatever you like, but it remains that the hardware is no different physically than any other DVD-ROM drive.


QUOTE(quim69 @ Nov 20 2008, 07:24 AM)
No the poster did not, look at the title of the topic:
"Does the Wii DVD Dumper harm the Wii's laser"

That is a completely different question, and irrelevant to the current discussion.

The WOD Drive can read DVD's, but it isn't a DVD drive. Just like a Bluray drive can read DVDs but isn't a DVD Drive (or if you prefer legacy, a DVD Drive can read CDs but isn't a CD Drive).

The answer doesn't change: The Wii, in any physical or metaphysical sense, will NOT be harmed by reading its own discs or any other type of disc.
 

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not to mention, not all DVD drives can read CD's and most Blu-Ray drives can't read DVD's...and so on and so on.....NOW THAT is completely irrelevant
 

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QUOTE said:
Nintendo optical discs refer to the optical disc format used to distribute video games released by Nintendo. This includes the Nintendo GameCube Game Disc and Wii Optical Disc.

QUOTE said:
The Nintendo GameCube Game Disc (DOL-006) is the medium for the Nintendo GameCube, created by Matsushita, and later extended for use on the Wii through backward compatibility.[1] The GameCube Game Disc is a 1.5GB, 8-cm miniDVD based technology which reads at a constant angular velocity from disc edge to disc center.

QUOTE
For the Wii, Nintendo extended the technology to use a full size 12-cm, 4.7/8.54 GB DVD-based disc (RVL-006), enabling it to have the benefits of the Nintendo GameCube Game Disc, while having the standard capacity of a double-layer DVD-ROM

Souce Wikipedia
 

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Captin said:
QUOTE said:
Nintendo optical discs refer to the optical disc format used to distribute video games released by Nintendo. This includes the Nintendo GameCube Game Disc and Wii Optical Disc.

QUOTE said:
The Nintendo GameCube Game Disc (DOL-006) is the medium for the Nintendo GameCube, created by Matsushita, and later extended for use on the Wii through backward compatibility.[1] The GameCube Game Disc is a 1.5GB, 8-cm miniDVD based technology which reads at a constant angular velocity from disc edge to disc center.

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For the Wii, Nintendo extended the technology to use a full size 12-cm, 4.7/8.54 GB DVD-based disc (RVL-006), enabling it to have the benefits of the Nintendo GameCube Game Disc, while having the standard capacity of a double-layer DVD-ROM

Souce Wikipedia

Thanks for the tidbit of information, but this is about hardware -- not the software medium.
 

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