Dutch city mulls banning meat ads

[x65943]

Hooo boy, does it ever.
Not eating meat in general, that will but the current level of consumption relies on constant heavy marketing by the meat industry. If meat advertising stopped, consumption would drop considerably.

I honestly feel like I would continue to eat meat 3-4x a day without advertising

I have tried to stop before and it was very difficult (and I felt so bad I gave up)

 

[Xzi]

Hooo boy, does it ever.
Not eating meat in general, that will but the current level of consumption relies on constant heavy marketing by the meat industry. If meat advertising stopped, consumption would drop considerably.

Really? Gotta be a cultural difference between Americans and Europeans then, because I can't remember the last time I saw an advertisement (TV or billboard) for just straight-up meat. Fast food or sit-down restaurants, sure, but I'd put that in a different category since most of those places also have non-meat options.

I try to stick to white meat only these days, but even that's been a struggle. Might be two days out of each month I go completely without meat.

 

[Veho]

I honestly feel like I would continue to eat meat 3-4x a day without advertising

I have tried to stop before and it was very difficult (and I felt so bad I gave up)

Don't get me wrong, I love the meats ( )
I'm not saying people would stop eating meat entirely and cold turkey (mmm, cold turkey...)
But a lot of people would gradually go from meat three meals a day to one (or even less), and the average consumption would drop by a lot.

 

[x65943]

Don't get me wrong, I love the meats ( )
I'm not saying people would stop eating meat entirely and cold turkey (mmm, cold turkey...)
But a lot of people would gradually go from meat three meals a day to one (or even less), and the average consumption would drop by a lot.

I think food consumption is cultural, and we learn to cook from our families

I honestly don't think a lot of home cooking is influenced by advertising

As for eating out, yes that is heavily influenced by ads - but at least in America, what will you even order out that doesn't have meat in it?

I admit I struggle to even conceptualize more than a handful of meals without meat

 

[Viri]

Reading this thread makes me want to buy some steak.

 

[FAST6191]

Hooo boy, does it ever.
Not eating meat in general, that will never stop, but the current level of consumption relies on constant heavy marketing by the meat industry. If meat advertising stopped, consumption would drop considerably.

I know marketing brought up the relative consumption rates for the US (probably the greatest advertising success other than the torches of freedom thing to start women smoking) by making people think it a component of a good meal (and further ones increasing the proportions within such things) but would it drop? The notion seems fairly ingrained at this point (and it is not like the anti meat set have not had their way with things for decades now, around for a lot longer) with relative costs or general financial health being the main thing to moderate most consumption (and even then that usually means cheaper cuts/sources/alternatives, or people go hunting. That also assumes people cook -- reconstituted abattoir floor leavings with breadcrumbs around them being rather cheaper and easier than making a stir fry in a lot of places that would care about what hippies think).
I am not aware of bans/notable impediments to advertising for meat anywhere at present so I don't know what we might have public, I imagine someone in some meat company (and while not monopolies there are but a few in most markets) forgot, experimented or neglected one day and might be nice for a regression test, though I also imagine that data is rather well hidden even by advertising standards.

 

[Veho]

Really? Gotta be a cultural difference between Americans and Europeans then, because I can't remember the last time I saw an advertisement (TV or billboard) for just straight-up meat.

Weird, everyone knows the "beef, it's what's for dinner" and "pork, the other white meat" and "got milk" and other slogans. (Granted, I haven't seen a unified "eat meat in general" campaign) More recently (recent in my mind; time flies and the last 15 years have been a blur) the "Powerful Beefscapes", which I was disapp surprised to find wasn't a gay porn mag (they really should run these slogans past some teenagers before going public) and "Nicely done, beef!" and so on. Maybe they're not as ubiquitous there as the distance makes it seem. Maybe your ad blocker is just too good

I think food consumption is cultural, and we learn to cook from our families
I honestly don't think a lot of home cooking is influenced by advertising

Or learn how not to cook, if you've ever tried one of my mom's dishes

Anyway, dietary habits are very influenced by marketing. A lot of the home-spun wisdoms regurgitated by "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day" was a marketing campaign by a cereal manufacturer. "Coffee stunts growth" was launched by a coffee substitute manufacturer. "Orange juice is healthy" was a push to get rid of a citrus surplus. I don't know where "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" came from but I have my suspicions

 

[impeeza]

try to convince the big fields of rice to use the "possible solution":

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200420105045.htm

by now, I am happy with my local produce rice and burger (moco loco)

 

[lolcatzuru]

Please define communists. Because I have a feeling you don't know what that positions means or entails.
or better yet, how about we all settle this in a proper debate via voice chat. I'm sure the mods would be substantially happier not having close heavily derailed threads.
@LainaGabranth I'm pretty sure would also love to enjoy to actually have a proper debate, since we just end up going in circles on these forms for ages and a half.

you do as you see fit, if you cant identify a communist, then you have bigger problems im afraid, also why invite an alt?

 

[The Catboy]

Although I can see where this might make some impact, it's kind of avoiding other major contributors to climate change. Big box stores, warehouses, and many other large-scale/global industries do far more damage to the environment. Yet, they continue to be skirted around and the conversation seems largely focused on the farming industry shouldering the blame for climate change.

 

[Taleweaver]

I don't see the issue nor the point. As mentioned, it doesn't need advertising. Heck, the only meat advertising I've seen is from fast food joints. Okay, and bbq sauces (no idea why they're heavily advertising) and, ironically enough, meat replacements ('the vegetarian butcher). So only those fast food joints have to adapt (yes, they will advertise a veggie burger, pretending they invented the ban rather than oppose).

The reason it's pointless is because we're all almost literally spoonfed meat. Fuck, I've fed my two year old a burger from the bbq just yesterday. The reason the industry isn't advertising is because it doesn't need to. We'll all end up eating it anyway.

And I'm not sure what to think of it, but a friend of mine is a veterinarian, and he claims it's pointless to be a vegetarian as a means to oppose climate change, as it won't diminish the amount of animals being bred and killed: the majority of the beasty isn't so much in the eating but in all the products that get made from all the parts. It's not that the meat isn't an important factor(it is), but it's just one part of why the industry is raising cattle, not the whole reason.