Certainly...certainly. (my sarcasm may have gone unnoticed on that particular post)."White privilege" is a crutch that's used by POC. In America we're all privileged.
"Privilege" is a relative term; has no objective meaning.
Certainly...certainly. (my sarcasm may have gone unnoticed on that particular post)."White privilege" is a crutch that's used by POC. In America we're all privileged.
my sarcasm may have gone unnoticed on that particular post.
Ah, yes, "Karen", another attempt to silence a woman from having a public voice.
From now on, anytime a woman speaks her mind in public, let's label her a "karen" and plaster the video online so she can be ridiculed. Sounds like real progress.
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Ha. Would love to see your list.
Celebrities are nothing but mindless robots that do what the media says is popular. I never followed celebrities for that very reason. Cleveland's VA is a bitch for stepping down in my opinion. Seems like the media wants to regress to the segregation days.
nickcannon said:TEACHABLE MOMENT: America, There is NO such thing as “WhiteFace” just like there is no such thing as “Reverse Racism”. BlackFace and Racism are rooted in and are byproducts of the Institutionalized Oppression of a subjugated people. The racist and severely damaging “Jim Crow laws” received its name from the BLackface minstrel movement of the 19th century and proceeds to cause pain to this day. A constant reminder that People of color are looked at as second class citizens in this country. Now when you look up the standard definition of “Whiteface” all you will find is an elite Ski Resort in Upstate NY. This is not a Tit-for-Tat argument. These are FACTS. These recent revealings of people painting themselves black or brown and speaking in broken slang in an attempt to be humorous or have fun; as if our culture is some sort of party trick or costume is unacceptable. Along with @Gucci @Prada @Moncler and any other companies or corporations who wish to exploit our pain. Racism is when an “elite” group uses its systemic power to enforce harm, hardship, and pain on others. If you don’t understand this, then it probably means you are or benefit from that elite group of privileged oppressors that we speak of.
ROUND 1 goes to : THE CULTURE Holla at me!!!
therealspambabe said:You mention people speaking in a broken slang in an attempt to be humorous.....yet you perpetuate being looked down upon by using uneducated slang and following up a well written post with "holla"..sadly discrediting your own post.
reddman619 said:Hey Cannon look at what Morgan Freeman has to say about racism and black history month. I have seen many elders speak on tbe topic. It's people like you that make EVERYTHING a race issue.
aalrightythen said:Equality. If racism will EVER come to an end. It has to be EQUAL. If a white person can't wear "blackface" a black person SHOULDN'T wear whiteface. Yes, there is history for blackface that associates it with racism, but either way it's just not right on either side. As for reverse racism - there IS such a thing. I've experienced it, unwarranted.
jarrodterrell said:Racism is racism. There’s no such thing as “reverse racism.” What a stupid term. If you are discriminating against any race whatsoever, including your own, you are a racist. Look in a dictionary for gods sake. Oh and you don’t need to be from an “elite” group to be racist. I can’t even begin to understand that idiotic comment. People from poor and/or marginalized backgrounds can’t be racist...? What...? You should take this post down man. You’re spouting the exact same mentality you’re fighting so hard against.
younique_by_catherine said:No actually, i take it as a complement! Unless of course you meant it as a way to make fun of caucasians by wearing WHITEFACE (because that IS what youre doing) then i would say you are RACIST! Racism is disparaging another race Nick! It is not a black thing or a white thing.... it is in FACT....A RACE THING! Get over yourself and celebrate theHUMAN RACE! You have a platform to bring positivity to so many that are really ignorant . Why breed negativity by stirring the pot?
netya_wood420 said:Tell me we’re your oppressed before the 70,000 an episode you got for AMERICAs GOT TALENT from those elites or after maybe it’s was after you got the 2012 Ferrari in your divorce from Mariah or possibly your salary of 10 million dollars wake up Nick you are the elites and here just so you can understand your double standards definition is BS here you go ...
“ Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. I can think of a whole religious group who believes their superior to the white race so tell me Nick do they fit your definition of racist,cause it sure does mine.
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Well sure, I know the origins of the term, however i would argue that the term 'karen" has evolved into something else entirely (as expected).You realize they use the name Karen because it refers to someone white (making white people seem annoying when the name Karen is used) and "privileged", don't you? It has nothing to do with a sexist opinion as you made it.
In the news most of the women's names that popped up causing "issues" were Karen which is why they started saying "Karen".
Again, nothing to do with silencing women as you might think. -- I should add to this; because everyone's videos are now being blasted out there to be ridiculed (see Yale University with the black girl who was in the dorm area that didn't belong there and made video) and ALWAYS it's from when the other individuals side already after they've become angry instead of the very beginning seeing what truly caused the altercation/issue.
Spoken like a karen. In the old world karens knew better than to open their "me too" mouths. Twitter and facebook echo chambers gave you karens a place to group together to whine about what upsets yall. You want you cake and entitlement to be able to eat it too. Becky who called cops on black people bbqing... White bitch in 7/11 telling a Hispanic to go back to mexico, bitch in the woods fake crying for police. See there is absolutly no point in me trying to open your blindined by biased femenist eyes your too far gone beyond full retard you can not go back. Never go full femenist retard. If 99% of people agree "karens" are the problems not "Sjw freedom fighters" they think themselves as....then guess what majority vote rules out your whiney " listen to me im a empowered female" bullshit and eat aAh, yes, "Karen", another attempt to silence a woman from having a public voice.
From now on, anytime a woman speaks her mind in public, let's label her a "karen" and plaster the video online so she can be ridiculed. Sounds like real progress.
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Ha. Would love to see your list.
A male karen is a kyle... Get the fuck off you high horse on a game boy hacking forum... Nobody cares as much as you so realize you replying is just entertainment not thought provoking conversation.... Continue karenA polit
Well sure, I know the origins of the term, however i would argue that the term 'karen" has evolved into something else entirely (as expected).
Also, I'm sure the objective is not to silence woman, but that is the end result. For one, we can easily discern that using the name "karen" is to target a particular gender. Then realize the name is used to describe a very particular behavior that amounts to a *gasp* woman speaking her mind in public.
I'm not sure why a woman (has to be a white woman, I guess?) that has a problem with the way a business is being conducted, and asks to 'speak to the manager', is automatically in some kind of entitlement/priviledge complex. Gaw, our judgement cannot be so shallow.
Spoken like a karen. In the old world karens knew better than to open their "me too" mouths. Twitter and facebook echo chambers gave you karens a place to group together to whine about what upsets yall. You want you cake and entitlement to be able to eat it too. Becky who called cops on black people bbqing... White bitch in 7/11 telling a Hispanic to go back to mexico, bitch in the woods fake crying for police. See there is absolutly no point in me trying to open your blindined by biased femenist eyes your too far gone beyond full retard you can not go back. Never go full femenist retard. If 99% of people agree "karens" are the problems not "Sjw freedom fighters" they think themselves as....then guess what majority vote rules out your whiney " listen to me im a empowered female" bullshit and eat a
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A male karen is a kyle... Get the fuck off you high horse on a game boy hacking forum... Nobody cares as much as you so realize you replying is just entertainment not thought provoking conversation.... Continue karen
I could report you for this, but I it is better if your hysteria is public.You effing moron.
Because you are obviously stupid, here once more in an easy to understand way..
Now tell me you MORON
2) False, I cannot only distinguish you from a whale but also from a Japanese. I can also distinguish Japanese, Korean and Chinese people (10/10 in an online test), though it is more difficult for me than to distinguish a Portuguese from a German and a Serbian. The difference in difficulty comes from experience and cultural effects, but "23 and me" proves that it is based on genetics.Nationality is an invented concept. Ethnicity is an invented concept. Race is an invented concept. At the species point you have enough science to say - yes, we can differentiate a human from a monkey. Thats about it. You have NONE of that on the race front - regardless of your believes..
3) Ladies and gentlemen, we have an admission in part. What makes you think that is "partly genetic"? Could it be that you agree with my riddle?Nationality is a social concept. Ethnicity is a social concept. Race is a social, and only in small parts biological and genetic concept. Species is a social and partly biological, and partly genetic concept.
4) You just called the vast majority of the world stupid, including BLM and various minority instutions. It takes a special kind of person of European descent to "not care about [his] race at all" and even deny basic biology for the fear of being called names. Man up.Now how stupid would I have to be, to think, that finding markers for those is what ultimately would put someone in a race group or not?
5) You could indeed group people into blood types and call it "race". You would confuse people, however, since we already have a word for geographical genetic clusters ("race/ethnicity") and blood types ("blood type"). I suppose you could theoretically create e.g. a pure 0 blood type, but it would probably take hundreds of thousands of years to achieve it because so many combinations can lead to it.Dont you unterstand, that we can find different markers, for different interpersonal characteristics (like blood type) all day, that would be exactly the same as far as their genetic ability to differentiate people goes, and we do nothing about them, we dont even care. But as soon as it comes to skincolor and hairstructure - suddenly we become very interested.
6) Race can be identified genetically by looking at clusters of human populations. Even a non-biased computer program can do this. You can ask it to e.g. dinstuingish genetic data in 3 or 10 groups it into largely Subsaharan African, Caucasian and Asian (3) or more subsets (e.g. East Asians and South-East Asians (10)). I has been many years but I might be able to find the program for you. But then you would have to honestly apologize to me for name calling and admit that your hysterical response has to do with your acknowledging that I am right (about genes being the basis for race/ethnicity). And even without the program, you would have to solve another riddle: How can companies determine that e.g. Ben Shapiro is Jewish (and that Obama is probably half Subsaharan African and half European; and that Bruce Lee is 1/4 European - if he had done a test). Genetic clusters are based on separation/relatedness and there are different zoom levels. Your family is genetically closest to you, then your extended family, then your region, etc. You could call your own family a race if you wanted (but why? if we already have a word for it: family).Now tell me you MORON, how - can race be identified genetically? When it is so obviously a cultural concept? How much of a genetic sequence that produces black pigment is needed for you to be "genetically black"? Do you really think such a clear cut definition exists? And why are you so stupid?
The only thing you are doing at this point is to pronounce - that you so obviously can 'feel' a difference, and that because you can see a persons skincolor in its genetic code, with a certain probability, this produces a genetic defintion of race. Now let me hit you in the face and tell you, no - for a genetic definition of race, you would have to go the other way around. You would have to define what a race is, based on genetic characteristics alone. And you cant. Noone does. So get your shitty racist bias out of here, that always knows what a race is, and then looks at genetics to find markers for his personal bias - read the god damn Wkipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics
This should be included in the dictionary definition of "projection". Other people can judge who of us is the emotional one.You are a horrible human being and a lousy discussion partner. Oh, and you cant follow logic. And you have a hard time differentiating theoretical arguments, semantics, real world concepts, and feelings.
Your arguments are so often solely driven, by how you feel something must be...
They already tried. The breakdown of what people think is what is quite varied and in some cases unexpected.Karen is just the new way of saying Bitch. One day, this too shall be verboten.
Well sure, I know the origins of the term, however i would argue that the term 'karen" has evolved into something else entirely (as expected).
Also, I'm sure the objective is not to silence woman, but that is the end result. For one, we can easily discern that using the name "karen" is to target a particular gender. Then realize the name is used to describe a very particular behavior that amounts to a *gasp* woman speaking her mind in public.
I'm not sure why a woman (has to be a white woman, I guess?) that has a problem with the way a business is being conducted, and asks to 'speak to the manager', is automatically in some kind of entitlement/priviledge complex. Gaw, our judgement cannot be so shallow.
Dito. (Although, ask me how I'd react, when I'm in this world.) The point though is, that before you'd get to this world, you'd have revolts on the street. Much of what Trump'ism is attributed to these days is 'white america' going on a revolt, shortly before they may loose the position as the dominant race in the country.
The point where you'd find that 'positivistic' state racism ("we need cultural diversity") are very narrow though. Education (creation of rolemodels, keeping different communities 'engaged' in the - actually capitalist, but also intellectual - I guess, system), schooling, public workplace - thats it...
Private companies also often go for it (racial diversity as a company 'motto' (PR)), because its FAR, FAR easier, to deal with those lines of social protest, than with actual class based (worker, white collor...), or wage or inequality based debates/protests.
Place a token 'something' person in a certain place - done.
You effing moron.
Because you are obviously stupid, here once more in an easy to understand way..
Nationality is an invented concept. Ethnicity is an invented concept. Race is an invented concept. At the species point you have enough science to say - yes, we can differentiate a human from a monkey. Thats about it. You have NONE of that on the race front - regardless of your believes.
Nationality is a social concept. Ethnicity is a social concept. Race is a social, and only in small parts biological and genetic concept. Species is a social and partly biological, and partly genetic concept.
EVERYTHING about this is solely based on definition. You can have 10.000 DNA based traits or markers, what you call a 'black' person or a 'jewish person', or a 'caucasian person' is defined by no potential grouping of those. In EVERY sense of the word, when used colloquially, we either mean skincolor, or hair structure, as perceived, once we actually see them.
Now how stupid would I have to be, to think, that finding markers for those is what ultimately would put someone in a race group or not?
I dont know? How stupid are you?
Dont you unterstand, that we can find different markers, for different interpersonal characteristics (like blood type) all day, that would be exactly the same as far as their genetic ability to differentiate people goes, and we do nothing about them, we dont even care. But as soon as it comes to skincolor and hairstructure - suddenly we become very interested.
Now tell me you MORON, how - can race be identified genetically? When it is so obviously a cultural concept? How much of a genetic sequence that produces black pigment is needed for you to be "genetically black"? Do you really think such a clear cut definition exists? And why are you so stupid?
The only thing you are doing at this point is to pronounce - that you so obviously can 'feel' a difference, and that because you can see a persons skincolor in its genetic code, with a certain probability, this produces a genetic defintion of race. Now let me hit you in the face and tell you, no - for a genetic definition of race, you would have to go the other way around. You would have to define what a race is, based on genetic characteristics alone. And you cant. Noone does. So get your shitty racist bias out of here, that always knows what a race is, and then looks at genetics to find markers for his personal bias - read the god damn Wkipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics
Keywords "estimate", "probable" vs "determine".
And shut your racist mouth up. As simple as that. You are wrong. Factually. You are biased always. Your peers fed you bullshit, and your parents provided cultural education sucked. On top of that you dont want to move an inch away from any of your prejudices, and now for the third time in a row have insisted, that some utterly insane bullshit - would be "the truth", and desecrated people that actually told you what the mainstream consensus on a term was.
You are a horrible human being and a lousy discussion partner. Oh, and you cant follow logic. And you have a hard time differentiating theoretical arguments, semantics, real world concepts, and feelings.
Your arguments are so often solely driven, by how you feel something must be, after you assumed some BS, without even looking up, if it was true ('Harvard obviously engages in racial balancing' > Harward says it doesnt).
Just to name a few of your flaws.
Hardly the worst or most annoying of the special infected.But we still hate boomers, right?
Right...?
Not when the other person holds a racist position. (Race is defined 'genetically'.)Somebody is BIG mad. This entire post was nothing but attacking another user.
Do you even debate, bro? The moment you lose control of your emotions, you've already lost the debate.
Here is your condensed version for people who need that: People with large earlobes are obviously race PLUNKO. And because we can find markers for large earlobes, thereby PLUNKO obviously is genetic.
Either born PLUNKO or not, I always say!
Hail race PLUNKO. Its genetic. Also, we can show, that Plunko people often came from Sweden. Now its doubly genetic!
This is just a simply way to show you - how much race without a cultural concept makes sense.
We know nothing about PLUNKO people. And suddently everyone feels its silly.
PLUNKO people, btw? Also very agressive. Better warn the police. Oh and very intelligent. They get 30% of all available slots at Harvard.
Thinking back to my school days I'd say I've definitely met some 16 year old Karens, haha.They already tried. The breakdown of what people think is what is quite varied and in some cases unexpected.
That said is it really a synonym for bitch?
I have met a 16 year old bitch before but never a 16 year old karen, and plenty of people that would fall under the general understanding of bitch but without any of the traits associated with the phrase Karen (basically what happens when a woman, commonly but not exclusively of later years, has the realisation that most customer service and societal roles are somewhat passive in nature and conflict averse, and often with appeasement as a plan, as well as disproportionate punishments often being doled out to those that rock the boat. This leads to the further realisation that making a scene and escalating will often get a reward/desirable outcome for them and opts to do that in the face of negative attention, though some might not recognise it a such and almost certainly won't recognise a physical threat (saving that they are on the phone to the police) or expect any such things to go in their favour after the fact).
Karen may or may not reach as far as being a subset of bitch but I really can't get to synonym.
Equally is bitch verboten? I saw the "I'm a boss, not a bitch", "ban bossy" and other such things but I have thus far failed to see it join the ranks of cunt in the US (though I am now drawn to wonder about regional variations).
Doing a search for the term yields https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36627061
That and offensive has the latest article from 2017, and some going back far further.
News search for bitch has not a lot, something about dogs, some hip hop drama and not a lot else.
Repeat that for Karen and everything is this year.
Anyway back to your regularly scheduled notimp's everything is a social construct and words don't mean anything variety hour.
Wrong. At least when I went to college. You could say the word, althoug it was frowned upon based on PC. You hadn't fear any reprisals.Bitch is not a forbidden word in the same vein as others that you can't say even in an academic sense for fear of reprisal,
Which word?Wrong. At least when I went to college. You could say the word, althoug it was frowned upon based on PC. You hadn't fear any reprisals.