Hacking Huge exploit found on firmware 3.0.0: smhax

[Deleted User]

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[Ericthegreat]

So I've never updated (release system), can I update with a game card or something if I need too?

 

[Stercate79]

so they talk about bugs they're working on and that need to be tested for each new version and you think it's not a big deal and update anyway
but if they precisely talked about exploit you wouldn't have
what's the difference? lol

Exactly. Many people would have not updated their console if this exploit were known, well, al least a little bit earlier.

 

[hexcode99]

I trust 2.0.0 firmware on my Switch will work?

 

[SkulllKid]

Yes it is.

On a side note: We could be happy and hyping over this, but instead we're having an argument about whether or not it was safe to update.

so doesn't matter in wich fw we are always we have 3.0 or lower? because i think it's gonna be hard to find a game to update to 3.0 if it's possible

 

[ScarletLetter]

i will ammend my post... well, posthaste.

 

[Deleted User]

Exactly. Many people would have not updated their console if this exploit were known, well, al least a little bit earlier.

This is very true. So far, we've seen people say "Don't update!" and then nothing bad came out of updating. But saying a gateway-like exploit for the switch doesn't work anymore will prevent people from updating.

Granted ReSwitched didn't know about this yet, it still proves a point.

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so doesn't matter in wich fw we are always we have 3.0 or lower? because i think it's gonna be hard to find a game to update to 3.0 if it's possible

Cart updates are only present in Splatoon 2 and ARMS (that we know of) and those work fine.

 

[Jayro]

Already updated for Splatoon 2.
I'm not in a rush to get homebrew though. Once there's a warez loader I'll consider getting a second Switch, but that is likely a long time away, and for now I own all the games I care about and I already preordered Super Mario Odyssey so eh.

Same here, I have to stay updated for Splatoon 2.

 

[Stercate79]

This is very true. So far, we've seen people say "Don't update!" and then nothing bad came out of updating. But saying a gateway-like exploit for the switch doesn't work anymore will prevent people from updating.

Granted ReSwitched didn't know about this yet, it still proves a point.

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Cart updates are only present in Splatoon 2 and ARMS (that we know of) and those work fine.

Exactly what i'm talking about.

 

[SkulllKid]

This is very true. So far, we've seen people say "Don't update!" and then nothing bad came out of updating. But saying a gateway-like exploit for the switch doesn't work anymore will prevent people from updating.

Granted ReSwitched didn't know about this yet, it still proves a point.

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Cart updates are only present in Splatoon 2 and ARMS (that we know of) and those work fine.

But it is for 3.0 or 3.0.1? Because I think they gonna work on the latest fw with the exploit

 

[ScarletLetter]

But it is for 3.0 or 3.0.1? Because I think they gonna work on the latest fw with the exploit

3.0.0 is the right firmware.
3.0.1 does not work anymore.

 

[SkulllKid]

3.0.0 is the right firmware.
3.0.1 does not work anymore.

oh no i mean if splatoon or ARMS update the consola to 3.0 or 3.0.1 because im on 2.0.0 and idk if i can stay there.

 

[iAqua]

oh no i mean if splatoon or ARMS update the consola to 3.0 or 3.0.1 because im on 2.0.0 and idk if i can stay there.

vuln is present <3.0.0, you're fine.

 

[ScarletLetter]

oh no i mean if splatoon or ARMS update the consola to 3.0 or 3.0.1 because im on 2.0.0 and idk if i can stay there.

To play Splatoon 2 multiplayer you need the newest firmware.
Same goes for any online-multiplayer title.

 

[Deleted User]

@Stercate79, @Ashachu123 both of you are fighting pointlessly.

@Ashachu123 I already made sure to inform you that saying "Don't update!" with nothing bad happening when you previously updated won't convince people not to update. Saying "Don't update because a gateway-like exploit will no longer work!" will stop people dead in their tracks because something could go public for once.

@Stercate79 you are also fighting pointlessly because when people were saying "Don't update to 3.0.1!", PegaSwitch had to be modified in order to be compatible so they could check smhax on it. They didn't it wouldn't work at the time, so they couldn't warn people like you wanted.

 

[HeroPrinny]

Welp too late now

 

[AecdArmy]

Myself clicked update by mistake, i dont really care tbh, Im enjoying the switch for what it is without hacking it right now

 

[V-Temp]

This is very true. So far, we've seen people say "Don't update!" and then nothing bad came out of updating. But saying a gateway-like exploit for the switch doesn't work anymore will prevent people from updating.

Granted ReSwitched didn't know about this yet, it still proves a point.

The thing with this one is that, its such a minor number that you don't expect something of this gravity to occur. The scope of the change from 3.0.0 to 3.0.1 is massive because the hole for smhax was probably one of the biggest holes in a system ever. The change over is huge and the R&D team on this did a monstrous amount of work in patching this, but its in a measly 3.0.1 update. Not a 4.0.0 or even 3.1.0. Just 3.0.1, makes you think its some minor update to something tiny somewhere.

There were early warning signs but it took people basically sacrificing a switch to upgrade to then poke at find out just how severe the change was, and it was severe and probably worse than many expected. They burned a lot of fuses from 3.0.0 to 3.0.1 which was the first flag, but then we found out they changed all the keys, they recompiled everything, and slammed the door shut on smhax. And then bulldozed the house for good measure, if you'll allow me to stretch the analogy painfully far. Haha.

The key changes and everything that followed is going to be the biggest issue, though, because anything made post-3.0.1 will carry keys we won't know nor be able to use to decrypt. There's going to be a lot of work done on 3.0.0 or lower from now on because its an easy access point, but this means that any progress on 3.0.1 will be slowed. And 3.0.0 is going to exist as a walled-off ecosystem until someone manages to crack newer firmware to get new keys. No online. No games post 3.0.1. But emulators will be possible now.

 

[Angelcraft]

Myself clicked update by mistake, i dont really care tbh, Im enjoying the switch for what it is without hacking it right now

I do too but i change my joycons color

 

[datahoarder]

oh no i mean if splatoon or ARMS update the consola to 3.0 or 3.0.1 because im on 2.0.0 and idk if i can stay there.

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