iMenu step-by-step set-up tutorial

jurassicplayer · Mar 13, 2011

So just a little while ago, I was able to contact Taiju (he is safe from the earthquake and seems well enough) and I learned that I can't post up the nds loader thing (so Terminator also has to take down that mirrored link of his...and probably not add it to that pack you were planning to put it in). Though it was short, at least I accomplished what I was attempting to do (and I can still play with it in private builds) and thanks you guys for testing it for me.

CannonFoddr · Mar 13, 2011

jurassicplayer said:
So just a little while ago, I was able to contact Taiju (he is safe from the earthquake and seems well enough) and I learned that I can't post up the nds loader thing

Dam !!!! - guess we'll have to wait for either you or someone else to create a whole NEW loader that's not based on Taiju's code - Still glad to hear he's OK

The Catboy · Mar 13, 2011

jurassicplayer said:
So just a little while ago, I was able to contact Taiju (he is safe from the earthquake and seems well enough) and I learned that I can't post up the nds loader thing (so Terminator also has to take down that mirrored link of his...and probably not add it to that pack you were planning to put it in). Though it was short, at least I accomplished what I was attempting to do (and I can still play with it in private builds) and thanks you guys for testing it for me.

Come on Taiju! I'm glad to hear he is ok, but please stop doing this to the Temp! People need you and your talents, the Temp hasn't been the same without him!
-sighs- I will keep my build, but I really hope someone is able to make a loader.

BassAceGold · Mar 14, 2011

So why is an extra loader required to load nds roms?

All spinal needs to do is modify the globalsettings.ini file in iMenu, then boot dsgame.nds using the loader that iMenu uses.
At least that is what seems to work for me.

CannonFoddr · Mar 14, 2011

BassAceGold said:
So why is an extra loader required to load nds roms?

All spinal needs to do is modify the globalsettings.ini file in iMenu, then boot dsgame.nds using the loader that iMenu uses.

since you put it like that - you're right, cut out the 'middle man' & let imenu pass ARG directly.. although won't we still have the problem of needing the 'autorunlastrom' option to be reset somehow
And didn't you say that spinal had 'changed' the ARG 'standard' that you both agreed on ?

Game Dragon · Mar 14, 2011

I have a problem with my install, when I turn it on it freezes on the loading page or it gets past that and freezes on the select page, any ideas

spinal_cord · Mar 14, 2011

CannonFoddr said:
And didn't you say that spinal had 'changed' the ARG 'standard' that you both agreed on ?

What? I did nothing of the sort. The only thing I did was output the arg even if the file being loaded is an nds, its still exactly the same information.

BassAceGold · Mar 14, 2011

CannonFoddr said:
And didn't you say that spinal had 'changed' the ARG 'standard' that you both agreed on ?

He didn't change the standard, he just made an unnecessary modification to accommodate .nds homebrews that ignore the standards that have already been set for them.

It's nothing major, but it does break compatibility in our loaders (spinals loader can pass args to nesDS, mine can't).

spinal_cord · Mar 14, 2011

BassAceGold said:
CannonFoddr said:

And didn't you say that spinal had 'changed' the ARG 'standard' that you both agreed on ?

He didn't change the standard, he just made an unnecessary modification to accommodate .nds homebrews that ignore the standards that have already been set for them.

It's nothing major, but it does break compatibility in our loaders (spinals loader can pass args to nesDS, mine can't).

I was told by an old friend that it wouldn't be in any way easy to add argv() to nesDS --

an old friend @ recently

Click to expand...

And nesDS uses custom crt0 so no VRAM clear nor ARGV support, sucks!

So, for now at least, using the plgarg method is the only way to pass a filename to nesDS, as it can not be accepted the proper way.

CannonFoddr · Mar 14, 2011

CannonFoddr said:
And didn't you say that spinal had 'changed' the ARG 'standard' that you both agreed on ?

spinal_cord said:

What? I did nothing of the sort. The only thing I did was output the arg even if the file being loaded is an nds, its still exactly the same information.
QUOTE(BassAceGold @ Mar 14 2011, 06:55 PM)

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He didn't change the standard, he just made an unnecessary modification to accommodate .nds homebrews that ignore the standards that have already been set for them.
It's nothing major, but it does break compatibility in our loaders (spinals loader can pass args to nesDS, mine can't).

Ah right - sorry I misunderstood what you posted in that other thread
still....

Terminator02 · Mar 14, 2011

Game Dragon said:
I have a problem with my install, when I turn it on it freezes on the loading page or it gets past that and freezes on the select page, any ideas

it might be that your card isn't in all the way/correctly

when u insert the microsd card into your flash cart try to push it in at an angle towards the center of the cart, this should make it go almost perfectly in (otherwise it can go off-target a bit)

also make sure to push in the dstwo all the way into your ds (although the microsd card is probably the real issue)

also, hell yes for my first sticky (now i just need to get a certain other topic stickied so i dont have to keep bumping it

Also i removed my download, still kinda pissed off at taiju but w/e i guess, apparently shouldn't be hard to code for spinal

VatoLoco · Mar 14, 2011

Im getting some weird top screen glitching when initially starting up the newest msxDS with iMenu.

Part of the iMenu GUI stays on the screen when msxDS starts. It goes away when I launch a game,

and gameplay doesn't seem to be affected, but I thought it was worth a mention.

Game Dragon · Mar 15, 2011

Terminator02 said:
Game Dragon said:

I have a problem with my install, when I turn it on it freezes on the loading page or it gets past that and freezes on the select page, any ideas

Click to expand...

it might be that your card isn't in all the way/correctly

when u insert the microsd card into your flash cart try to push it in at an angle towards the center of the cart, this should make it go almost perfectly in (otherwise it can go off-target a bit)

also make sure to push in the dstwo all the way into your ds (although the microsd card is probably the real issue)

also, hell yes for my first sticky (now i just need to get a certain other topic stickied so i dont have to keep bumping it

Also i removed my download, still kinda pissed off at taiju but w/e i guess, apparently shouldn't be hard to code for spinal

The DS-2 Card and memory card all works perfectly when I use the standard OES 1.11 but when I put imenu on I have this trouble, I have tried several times with the same result so I would say the hardware is ok

jurassicplayer · Mar 15, 2011

VatoLoco said:
Im getting some weird top screen glitching when initially starting up the newest msxDS with iMenu.
Part of the iMenu GUI stays on the screenwhen msxDS starts. It goes away when I launch a game,
and gameplay doesn't seem to be affected, but I thought it was worth a mention.

It's probably the same problem that was in the nesDS EX (the something about clearing the VRAM I think it was...but meh, I can't remember xD)
As for problems with iMenu, NOBODY who has tested it has had any problems with it...that generally leads one to believe that only a single person who is having problems with it, the problem is due to something on their end. Maybe try a full reformat and see if the problem clears up.

Game Dragon · Mar 15, 2011

jurassicplayer said:
VatoLoco said:

Im getting some weird top screen glitching when initially starting up the newest msxDS with iMenu.
Part of the iMenu GUI stays on the screenwhen msxDS starts. It goes away when I launch a game,
and gameplay doesn't seem to be affected, but I thought it was worth a mention.

Click to expand...

It's probably the same problem that was in the nesDS EX (the something about clearing the VRAM I think it was...but meh, I can't remember xD)
As for problems with iMenu, NOBODY who has tested it has had any problems with it...that generally leads one to believe that only a single person who is having problems with it, the problem is due to something on their end. Maybe try a full reformat and see if the problem clears up.

I have, about a dozen times and tried different memory cards still no joy

I have decided to build my own

jurassicplayer · Mar 15, 2011

While attempting to make another theme (I got fed up with my old one since it wasn't spiffy enough), I thought I would try the animated top screen...but it seems that it isn't exactly like the Acekard's (and so my animation fails to look nice). For the most part, the problem is that the clock_colon and the clock numbers don't seem to loop around to the other side of the screen if they go past the borders of the DS's screen. While it generally isn't a problem when there isn't a clock, or if the animation is thin enough, there is a problem if someone tries to use it AND keep the clock.
I regularly use this method for the meager animated AK themes that I have (none of these would be possible without the looping):
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/4078b394d7
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/56c325007c
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/ce994c1dc5
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/a72b544a7d

And there have been some notable AK themes that really put animation to use on the full screen (due to me needing to do my homework, I only grabbed one that really shows how the looping is useful for animated themes):
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/63ac937f43

I'm hoping it's not something hard to add to the current system as I would like to keep the current theme I have, but worst comes to worst, I'll just have to remove the animation and live with just having the clock.

spinal_cord · Mar 15, 2011

jurassicplayer said:
While attempting to make another theme (I got fed up with my old one since it wasn't spiffy enough), I thought I would try the animated top screen...but it seems that it isn't exactly like the Acekard's (and so my animation fails to look nice). For the most part, the problem is that the clock_colon and the clock numbers don't seem to loop around to the other side of the screen if they go past the borders of the DS's screen. While it generally isn't a problem when there isn't a clock, or if the animation is thin enough, there is a problem if someone tries to use it AND keep the clock.
I regularly use this method for the meager animated AK themes that I have (none of these would be possible without the looping):
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/4078b394d7
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/56c325007c
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/ce994c1dc5
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/a72b544a7d

And there have been some notable AK themes that really put animation to use on the full screen (due to me needing to do my homework, I only grabbed one that really shows how the looping is useful for animated themes):
http://www.ndsthemes.com/themes/details/t/63ac937f43

I'm hoping it's not something hard to add to the current system as I would like to keep the current theme I have, but worst comes to worst, I'll just have to remove the animation and live with just having the clock.

So, you would like me to emulate a bug in the ak menu so that images would wrap around the screen? seems an odd request, but it should be easy enough.

Game Dragon · Mar 17, 2011

Hi spinal_cord
I just found out something interesting about your program imenu, it seems it works on slow to medium micro SDHC memory cards but has problems with fast micro SDHC memory cards it locks up

CannonFoddr · Mar 17, 2011

Game Dragon said:
Hi spinal_cord
I just found out something interesting about your program imenu, it seems it works on slow to medium micro SDHC memory cards but has problems with fast micro SDHC memory cards it locks up

I would guess some more details may be useful.....

I guess when you say 'slow' SDHC you're talking about 'class 2/4', & fast SDHC such as 'Class 6/8' or even '10' - but could you be a little more specific ??, then other people can try it out for themselves and we'll be able to confirm/deny the bug

Game Dragon · Mar 17, 2011

I have tried with a few Teak micro SDHC 4GB Class 6 and it does not work but a Sandisk 4GB Class 2 all good

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