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granville said:

As per the action, odds are this will have more because the first one was more about developing how Iron Man came to be. Iron Man really didn't even show until like halfway through the movie. With the character and Iron Man already established, I'm sure they'd take the liberty of doing more action. Although the one thing I do hate with sequels for these types of movies though is the move away from plot development to action. I haven't seen it yet though.

I'm planning to see it Friday (if you're in Europe, you got it a week earlier than us) and I do have high expectations. I saw the first movie again on Sunday night and I still think it's a good super hero movie. I don't expect it to be bad, but who knows.
 

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I was worried that too many characters would stop this improving on the first and it sounds like it does.

Still want to see it, and also Captain America, Thor & Ant-Man but Avengers I'm getting wary of due to it also having lots of big characters in it as well as the main Avengers.
 

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Well my point about the action was not that there was too much, but that the first movie did the action better and more cleverly constructed, with characters having to carefully plan out how to win a fight. Not so here, as most action sequences felt very generic and all characters did was just punch or shoot the enemy until they died. No thinking involved. The final showdown with the villain was a letdown, short and unsatisfying. Even his first appearance (while badass) was again short and rather pointless. I felt they weakened the bad guy too much to make him a decent villain. And again, his character development is just nonexistent.

And as i said, i felt the story was decent but could have been more refined and given more time to cook. The speed talking and constant shift in plot felt way too much like they were cramming as much as humanly possible in 2 hours. As i said, Transformers 2 had the same issue. I realize it was a horrible movie while this one is decent, but still has the same issues and people that saw it might know what i mean. The plot is just all over the place here, spread out between the action sequences. I wish they had extended this to two movies and developed everything farther. Characters needed much more development here. I wouldn't even have minded a cliffhanger as long as the story was a little less compacted and we got to see more into characters' heads.

BTW, for people who don't know what i mean by the villain being generic and uninteresting, here's a spoiler into the extent of his character development. SPOILER SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!

The main villain is Ivan (forget his last name, Russian). He is the son of some scientist who worked with Howard Stark (Tony's dad) on a new energy source. Ivan's dad was cut off from the project for wanting to sell it to everyone or something, and he later dies and passes on his work to Ivan. Ivan uses the tech to get revenge against the Stark family. Throughout the film, he acts more like a generic middle eastern terrorist than a brilliant evil genius. And he's a pansy to beat. Even when he catches Tony completely off guard on their first appearance, he is beaten soundly. The final encounter only lasts for about 30 seconds or so, and again, he is beaten without any effort effort.
 

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Wife® and i are going to see it Friday for her birthday. (heh, *she* chose this one. woot!)

So, even if it's mediocre, at least it's not a Twilights >_>

Gaydrian said:
I was worried that too many characters would stop this improving on the first and it sounds like it does.

Still want to see it, and also Captain America, Thor & Ant-Man but Avengers I'm getting wary of due to it also having lots of big characters in it as well as the main Avengers.

Captain America- It's sounding like it's gonna be badass. Chris Evans is up for the roll... and you know what? He's been in every other Comic boom based movie... and he SHOULD be in EVERY comic based movie. Type-cast the fuck out of this guy. He does it well.

Thor- I'm not familiar with much about the film, however dude looks GREAT as thor (look on IMDB). Half-excited, probably will be more upon seeing previews.

Ant-Man- Edgar Wright directing. 'nuff said. Can Not Wait.

Avengers- Joss Whedon just got attached to the writing. How can it go wrong? I cannot wait for this movie.
 

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I'm actually hoping that Thor/Avengers is more like Ultimates would work better as a movie.
 

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WildWon said:
Joss Whedon just got attached to the writing. How can it go wrong?
Two words: Alien Resurrection.
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I enjoyed Iron Man 2, it was fun. I loved Sam Rockwell's character, and Rockwell's performance was brilliant.
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