Julian Assange to be extradited.

[TrolleyDave]

Sorry to take so long to reply guys.

Not to come off as fanatical, but the way I see it, it's kind of written in the stars, so to speak. I'm no Bible thumper, but I do believe this world must go through great change. Assange as a martyr not only doesn't surprise me, but the type of free speech he and his organization have been exercising is counter to the "powers that be." It was never going to last in this world. The sorts of things WikiLeaks revealed showed American military's behavior in Iraq to be startlingly similar to that of the Nazi regime.

It's not getting Orwellian, it has been. Big Brother just doesn't relish us taking notice to that fact.

Don't worry, you're not coming off as fanatical. I kind of agree with you. For the world to take a different direction there needs to be revolution internationally in the countries that need it. The problem is always who's in control of the revolutions and the outcome it could generate, and of course who's in control of the countries the revolutions happen in. The current situation in Libya being a good example. Totally agree about America's behaviour in Iraq. The problem is that most people don't want to see it, hence the rise in the promotion of alot of right wing "patriot" style propaganda.

I kind of agree of agree with you on the Orwellian comment. It's been very Big Brother for a long while, but it's the fact that they're being so blatant about it now that makes me say it's becoming very Orwellian. Before now it's been kept from the public eye, things have been happening in the background while the governments have been keeping the people in a kind of "panic" mode. Now however they're blatantly behaving in Orwellian "Ministry of Truth" and "Ministry of Fiction" style ways. Fox News being a particularly good example of the "Ministry of Fiction". A news station that was awarded the right to tell lies under "Freedom of Speech", how anyone can ever trust the station again is beyond me.

EDIT: this vid should point out exactly how retarded Sarah Palin and her followers are *snipped for space

I've been ill the last few days and I'm pretty sure it was caused by that video!

Honestly, some of those people in that video should be denied the right to vote. The ones who basically just spout out the same tired phrases like minor birds is unfunny. And the ones who say the Dept. of Education should be scrapped should be ashamed of themselves. The funny thing is all these people call themselves "patriots", when the only thing they're even slightly "patriotic" to is their pockets. They couldn't give a dman what the state of their country is in so long as they have a couple of quid extra in their pockets. Hardly someone who loves their country.

QUOTE(twiztidsinz @ Feb 25 2011, 04:56 PM)

Those people are so misinformed.
Faux News told them that "ObamaCare" was FORCING them to have health care or go to jail. Faux News said that Obama was creating "Death Panels" and killing old people rather than treating them. And they lapped it up, screaming Socialism and Communism and Fascism and yet know nothing of what the word means. They hear the talking heads on Faux News say it, then parrot it back as fact. When confronted on the meaning of the words (and often times their stances) they try to wiggle out or spout off half-assed redirects of answers, what do you hate specifically about the Obama administration? "the socialist/communist/fascist agenda", or call you a socialist/communist/fascist/liberal.

And it's not just the 'regular' people either (it seems many forget that the government is supposed to work for US, not itself), it's the ones spouting the rhetoric and running for office. Sarah Palin was asked what newspapers she read to show or prove that Alaska isn't 'cut off' from the rest of the United States, stuttered for a bit then said "all of them". She reads all of the papers? Really? Someone too dumb to come up with a lie and name ONE COMMON WIDESPREAD NEWSPAPER expects us to believe she reads ALL the news papers? Even if she means 'All the newspapers in Alaska' (which would prove the point of the question), that's a tough one to swallow.


And Palin isn't the worst of the bunch either, Michele Bachmann is out there trying to rewrite our history. Saying that our nation was found on ethnic diversity we've always treated everyone the same and everyone had freedom because that's what the founding fathers fought for.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/25/bach...lessly-slavery/
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/11/bach...-history-again/

They scream about the "Redistribution of Wealth", but didn't say a peep about Bush bled this country dry by starting two wars and gave No Bid Contracts to to companies that had ties to his father and Vice President.
They scream about the illegals being terrorists and gangsters and drug dealers in one breath, then say they're taking jobs from Americans. Yet if they're drug pushing gangsters or terrorists, why are they working their asses off doing the shit jobs Americans don't want to do for a fraction of what Americans expect?

I don't really know how to answer this as you've hit the nail on the head so succinctly for all the things you're talking about. I actually applaud you for this post! The whole "There's a socialist/communist in the White House" thing is just stupid beyond belief. If people took the time to learn even the basics of socialism/communism they would know he's not even close. It's a good example of the power of good propaganda blended with an uneducated and slightly paranoid nation, which unfortunately is starting to spill out onto the UK's shores as well have alot of the same type of thing going on.