Metroid Prime 3 NTSC-U crashes at Norion, every time.

[Duncan Idaho]

The game always crashes at Norion, after going up on the first elevator, killing the pirate and both robots, specifically once you approach the grapple laso door that needs to be ripped.

Spoiler: Syscheck

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Console ID: 39659170
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Venezuela (52)
Boot2 v4
Found 169 titles.
Found 51 IOS on this console. 4 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256, Info: rev 10): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256, Info: rev 12): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Trucha Bug
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[57] (rev 21006, Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[56] (rev 21006, Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.10)
Report generated on 01/25/2023.

Any ideas why this is happening?

 

[TheDerpyDolphin]

Is it a physical copy? Sometimes if a disc is scratched just right the game will run fine until it hits a certain point where it glitches out/crashes. If you’re using a rom copy, make sure it’s a full copy and not trimmed in any way (Prime 3 doesn’t work properly when trimmed from my experience)

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Is it a physical copy? Sometimes if a disc is scratched just right the game will run fine until it hits a certain point where it glitches out/crashes. If you’re using a rom copy, make sure it’s a full copy and not trimmed in any way (Prime 3 doesn’t work properly when trimmed from my experience)

yes its a full dump, I am running it off a 1TB FAT32 3.5" EHDD

 

[CoolMe]

The game always crashes at Norion, after going up on the first elevator, killing the pirate and both robots, specifically once you approach the grapple laso door that needs to be ripped.

Verify the hash of the wbfs file in WiiBackupmanager to make sure it's not corrupt.

IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0

Boy, that is one messy syscheck.. You need to update ios249 /250 & 251, follow the guide here or drop the generated .csv syscheck file into ModMii, it will tell you what to do..

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Verify the hash of the wbfs file in WiiBackupmanager to make sure it's not corrupt.

Boy, that is one messy syscheck.. You need to update ios249 /250 & 251, follow the guide here or drop the generated .csv syscheck file into ModMii, it will tell you what to do..

I updated yesterday the CIOS, I thought I had edited them in, but seems not.

Spoiler: updated CIOS's

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline​	Double_A​	R2-D2199​	and Nano​
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​
Region: NTSC-U​	​	​	​
System Menu 4.3U (v513)​	​	​	​
Priiloader installed​	​	​	​
Drive date: 02.13.2007​	​	​	​
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​
Hollywood v0x11​	​	​	​
Console ID: 39659170​	​	​	​
Console Type: Wii​	​	​	​
Shop Channel Country: Venezuela (52)​	​	​	​
Boot2 v4​	​	​	​
Found 170 titles.​	​	​	​
Found 52 IOS on this console. 2 of them are stubs.​	​	​	​
​	​	​	​
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub​	​	​	​
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub​	​	​	​
IOS11[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug​	ES Identify​	Flash Access​	NAND Access​
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS20[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS30[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS40[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS50[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS51 (rev 4864): Trucha Bug​	​	​	​
IOS52[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0​	​	​	​
IOS60 (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches​	​	​	​
IOS70[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS80[60] (rev 65535​	Info: ModMii-IOS60-v6174): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	​
IOS202[60] (rev 65535​	Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS222[38] (rev 65535​	Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug​	ES Identify​	NAND Access​
IOS223[37] (rev 65535​	Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS224[57] (rev 65535​	Info: Hermes-v55.1): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS236[36] (rev 65535​	Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug​	ES Identify​	NAND Access​
IOS247[57] (rev 21006​	Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS248[56] (rev 21006​	Info: d2x-v6): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS249[57] (rev 65535​	Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS250[56] (rev 65535​	Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug​	NAND Access​	USB 2.0​
IOS251[38] (rev 65535​	Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug​	ES Identify​	NAND Access​
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii​	​	​	​
BC v6​	​	​	​
MIOS v10 (DIOS MIOS 2.10)​	​	​	​
Report generated on 01/26/2023.​	​	​	​

Modmii only pointed me to update IOS 11,20,30,40,50, 52,60, 70 and 80.

and CIOS 251 to dx10 beta52

I put 249 as dx2-v8 because of an old rec from here suggested it as a way to fix the crash.

Seems the problem was that the dumps I had were trimmed, somehow.

 

[CoolMe]

Modmii only pointed me to update IOS 11,20,30,40,50, 52,60, 70 and 80.

You can install those wads if you want, but they're not related to your problem.

I put 249 as dx2-v8 because of an old rec from here suggested it as a way to fix the crash.

Not sure about that, i recommend installing the v10 version.

Seems the problem was that the dumps I had were trimmed, somehow.

That's why the first thing i suggested was to verify the hash in WiiBackupmanager. If it's corrupt, of course it'll give you issues..

 

[Duncan Idaho]

That's why the first thing i suggested was to verify the hash in WiiBackupmanager. If it's corrupt, of course it'll give you issues..

ya but I tried about 5 different dumps and I kept getting the same exact issue over and over again.

Given that 5 different .iso files (converted via Wii Backup Manager with no issues) I thought "all right, it might not be the .iso, but a damaged file"

I'll update to v10 tonight.

 

[CoolMe]

ya but I tried about 5 different dumps and I kept getting the same exact issue over and over again.

Given that 5 different .iso files (converted via Wii Backup Manager with no issues) I thought "all right, it might not be the .iso, but a damaged file"

How i'm supposed to know that you went through that without you saying so?
Also, if you're sure it's not a wbfs file issue, then why did you say this?

Seems the problem was that the dumps I had were trimmed, somehow.

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Anyway, if you're using usbloadergx, update to this version if you're not using it already.
If are you still encountering the same issue even after updating, try your luck with Wiiflow Lite.
Also forgot to ask what usb drive are you using to launch games from? Usb flash drive or external hdd?

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Anyway, if you're using usbloadergx, update to this version if you're not using it already.
If are you still encountering the same issue even after updating, try your luck with Wiiflow Lite.

I have GX, Wiiflow lite and CFG Mod.

Also forgot to ask what usb drive are you using to launch games from? Usb flash drive or external hdd?

I am running it off a 1TB WD Blue FAT32 3.5" EHDD

 

[CoolMe]

I am running it off a 1TB FAT32 3.5" EHDD

Is it plugged into port 0? Are you using a y-cable? Since it's a 3.5" hdd it might need more juice to operate, not saying it's the root of your issue here..

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Is it plugged into port 0? Are you using a y-cable? Since it's a 3.5" hdd it might need more juice to operate, not saying it's the root of your issue here..

No Y cable, but the enclosure came with an AC power cord which is plugged and the cable is indeed plugged to port 0.

Currently I managed to move from the Norion crash and so far no crashes.

 

[CoolMe]

No Y cable, but the enclosure came with an AC power cord which is plugged and the cable is indeed plugged to port 0.

Ok, that should do.