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Nintendo has released yet another Pokemon Sun and Moon trailer, this time showing off the new Alola form, as well as revealing new Pokemon. So what do you think about all this?

 

[Queno138]

Alola forms? Meaning that we can't use the regular form of that Pokemon in Sun and Moon?

It'll probably work as an add-on type of thing.

Like how DP introduced Basic Rotom, and in Pt we had access to other Rotoms without sacrificing the normal Rotom.

It is probably different formes that are not interchangeable,
meaning Any other Vulpix you import will still be fire type (and could still be possible to encounter along fire routes),
but the Snow-pix is not able to change back to fire type and vice versa.

Its not the first time a Pokemon with a different forme gains different typing or moveset.
Just look at:
Castform (changes in formes changes typing)
Deoxys (retains typing but changes moveset)
Vivillon (essentially different forme encountered on different 3DS' geographical location)

It's as though Vulpix-Snowpix are a combination of these factors.

Also if you look at AZ's Floette (though officially not revealed),
It is but a different forme (data wise it's just a change in byte, meaning it's still a Floette, but with a different forme value),
and it has drastically different stats (it's base stat total is only one point below Florges).

So it's not difficult for GF/Ninty to implement 'Alolan formes', since the concept of different formes having different types and or movesets are already in place.
It's just pretty cool to see them finally do it.

 

[raulpica]

Don't you dare to ruin my childhood, Nintendo. The first 151s should NOT be touched.

 

[Deleted User]

HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS SO COOL
I have a feeling Sun and Moon are gonna be my favorite entries in the series, pushing Platinum off the list.

 

[Ricken]

Oricorio is going to be OU for sure. Assuming it's stats aren't crap anyway. No More Annoying Lilligants!! (I guess this cripples Volcorona too)

Don't you dare to ruin my childhood, Nintendo. The first 151s should NOT be touched.

Too late. The egg tree is now a mutant giraffe

 

[Sheimi]

Really digging the Vulpix and Ninetales.

 

[cooroxd]

Any word on bikini outfits for the female main character ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

 

[PedroKeitawa]

I simply copy and paste my opinion from serebii facebook page. Becouse i litteraly write the same thing again so i go lazy and copy and paste.

Oricorio is amazing. I love so much this Pokémon and i can't wait to have one on my team. Minior...is a thing a guess? I read in some youtube comment that somebody belive is a Solrock/Lunatone pre evolution but...move one. Gumshoos....burned with fire. Fomantis and is evolution looks adorable, the funny part is i have a mantis in my garden for all this week and only this morning is move away; now i know why shes got a job in this new Pokémon game. Mudbray is what here in italy we call a "Mulo" (Mule for english) and i liked more then hes evolution. For now this new gen, for me at least, is going in the right direct with is "strike out" but at the same time have a good number of "hit" in his scorebook.

I was awere of this type of Pokémon but they only exist in fan design...util now. Vulpix and Ninetails are amazing, after evolving Ninetails get the Fary type so now (if they give to new moves) can become a possible dragon killer or Greninja killer (becouse *uck Greninja). Sandshrew and Sandslash also look amazing, the type is not the best but hey i play for the story mode and the single player experience so i dosen't touch me too much. Maybe even the "old" Crystal Onix now have a chance for return Exeggutor is...intresting. Not for design, i totaly see way is in this way, but for typing. Before this only Mega Sceptile have the Grass/Dragon combination and correct me if i says wrong but, as far i know, Exeggutor dosen't lear any Dragon moves right? So maybe they give to him new moves for matching the type.

 

[Steena]

Not really diggiging the additional powercreep shit.
I want good global mechanics, not gimmicky super moves or super pokemon. Also, using a Z-move per battle means you'll pretty much oneshot every trainer, harder than when you got megas and the enemy didn't, in gen 6. I really wish they started balancing the singleplayer a little so it at least played like a videogame and not an A press simulator.

I do like that they are branching the existing pokemon instead of creating a million new ones though, especially when 80% of the cast became replaced by a superior version somewhere down the line. So far seeing Ninetales, Sandslash and Exeggcutor make me hopeful that, unlike megas, they are now awarding those formes to shit mons as a way to balance instead of giving them to already powerful stuff just for the sake of popularity.

 

[Procyon]

Gunshoos is my bae <3.

On the contrary I'll be haunted by the palm tree exxegcutor isk hoe to spell it

Gumshoos looks like Trump as stated by a few sites. Also some Chinese leaks forsaw this coming, so the leaks are strong with this one

 

[RustInPeace]

Not really diggiging the additional powercreep shit.
I want good global mechanics, not gimmicky super moves or super pokemon. Also, using a Z-move per battle means you'll pretty much oneshot every trainer, harder than when you got megas and the enemy didn't, in gen 6. I really wish they started balancing the singleplayer a little so it at least played like a videogame and not an A press simulator.

It does promote the use of protect, meaning the opposing trainer will waste that Z-move. Errr, part of me thinks it's an ingame story thing. It won't be allowed in wifi battles and such. I can't think of an example like this from the past, but I'm hoping that mechanic isn't part of wifi battles and even their ingame battle facility, whatever it will be. Maybe Z-moves can still work after a protect much like Hyper Beam, same with simply missing the move, if its accuracy is below 100. Or, Mimikyu can be a switch in for those moves, tank it, no damage, haha sucker. Compared to a few weeks ago with hyper training announced, I was ecstatic. Here, I'm a bit confused and worried, that this Z-move is kind of game breaking. Are gyms replaced by Kahunas? Is Mega Evolution coming back, because then that's another bracelet for the trainer to wear, unless they go for a necklace thing. Do the Alolan forms change stats or just typing and moves? I guess it's just wait and see. It at least gets me thinking and intrigued for the games to come out, which is what should happen in order to market the games to more than just kids.

 

[Queno138]

It has always bugged me that Exeggutor being some kind of a coconut or palm tree, is rather short.
While its Alolan forme looks really weird, it makes a bit more sense to me.

Also, Snowpix and Neinthails are pretty epic to me.

Just hoping that a lot of Pokemon get some additional differences.

Honestly diversity region differences should have been a thing way before Mega evolutions, as it makes more sense,
as compared to a one-time-power-up-then-reversion, which seems more of a Digimon thing.

(don't get me wrong, I like Mega evolution, but it seems like Pokemon should have went to region differences before Mega evolution.
Heck, even in Arbok's dex entry discusses it having different patterns ones captured in different places, but it was annoying to see the same pattern despite it being a transferred pokemon)

 

[DeslotlCL]

Some designs look okay, others look awful, but what i only want is a confirmation of popplio's final evolution, it looks beautiful.

 

[Yil]

Thus begin the fall of pokemon. It's all about powerup now, which ia annoying.

 

[darcangel]

1. Theres a thread on the main page about it
2. I dont think its the right place
3. They look awfull

4. Alola is a stupid name

 

[Deleted User]

4. Alola is a stupid name

wtf which region has a smart name lol
kanto - random shit
hoenn- like dr hoenheim of ma?
sinoh- more random shit
kalos-wtf?

 

[darcangel]

wtf which region has a smart name lol?

Well NOT Alola, for sure

 

[Deleted User]

Well NOT Alola, for sure

At least the name Alola is fairly obviously based off of the word Aloha, but I can't even begin to guess where the hell the names for other regions come from or what they're supposed to mean.

 

[Queno138]

wtf which region has a smart name lol
kanto - random shit
hoenn- like dr hoenheim of ma?
sinoh- more random shit
kalos-wtf?

Actually Kanto is an actual way to describe Japan (doesn't make it not lame): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kantō_region
But everything else is rather lame, admittedly.
Isshu, meaning united, is pretty interestingly, but became lame when it became UnovA (so NOV = S? XD)

 

[Foxi4]

Is it just me or is Pokemon getting... A little bit too goofy?

 

[Steena]

It does promote the use of protect, meaning the opposing trainer will waste that Z-move. Errr, part of me thinks it's an ingame story thing. It won't be allowed in wifi battles and such. I can't think of an example like this from the past, but I'm hoping that mechanic isn't part of wifi battles and even their ingame battle facility, whatever it will be. Maybe Z-moves can still work after a protect much like Hyper Beam, same with simply missing the move, if its accuracy is below 100. Or, Mimikyu can be a switch in for those moves, tank it, no damage, haha sucker. Compared to a few weeks ago with hyper training announced, I was ecstatic. Here, I'm a bit confused and worried, that this Z-move is kind of game breaking. Are gyms replaced by Kahunas? Is Mega Evolution coming back, because then that's another bracelet for the trainer to wear, unless they go for a necklace thing. Do the Alolan forms change stats or just typing and moves? I guess it's just wait and see. It at least gets me thinking and intrigued for the games to come out, which is what should happen in order to market the games to more than just kids.

I'm pretty certain Z-moves will become the new standard mandatory thing you're forced to use to be able to stand a chance just like megas were/are. I mean, this one seems to be one straight super strong attack, so it's quite obvious it's gonna be mandatory.
I don't see gamefreak dangling the shiny cool DBZ energy attack and then go "nu-uh Tmmy you don't get to use this when you bring your 6 shiny legendaries online". Remember Mega Rayquaza?

As for megas, it's hard to say. I think they're coming back. Again gamefreak would never have the balls to make a pokemon and remove it. At worst they'll change some minor details around it, maybe. Also the fanbase tends to be attached to the individual pokemon to retarded levels, some may commit suicide if they ever took out their favourite megas.