Opinions re: ANTIFA?

[Waygeek]

You have misunderstood the argument.

Because I am sane, and it is an insane 'argument' (really, deranged rambling).

There is a connection. It doesnt mean though, that you can rectify the behavior of one (extreme), with the behavior of the other extreme.

No one is arguing for any kind of rectification. You can't reform these psychos, just like no one can fix you. Antifa is a matter of defence, for regular people, against these gun toting psychos, as a last line when there are not enough officers or, when officers sympathise with these psychos, which is the most usual case.

False comparison. Antifa is not the police (state regulated).

It's not a false comparison, it's an analogy. Antifa don't have to be state sponsored for the analogy at all. Bad actors, and the people who fight against them. It's a good analogy, you're arguing against it because it curb stomps the bullshit coming out of your mouth.

I can only hope you and these gun toting psychos have padded cells next to each other one day; you can entertain each other.

 

[notimp]

Because I am sane, and it is an insane 'argument' (really, deranged rambling).

It is not. You are saying, because there is an extreme movement on the right, it is rectified, that there is also an extreme movement on the left, and look - its even better than the one on the right because it isn't that extreme.

That argument is a rhetoric fallacy.

No one is arguing for any kind of rectification. You can't reform these psychos, just like no one can fix you.

The entire penal (and healthcare) system in western societies is based on the princpal that you can change, and fix people (/peoples behavior). People deserve resocialisation and second chances. If you are strictly against that, you are an outsider.

It's not a false comparison, it's an analogy. Antifa don't have to be state sponsored for the analogy at all.

It is a broken analogy. Antifa in no way, form, or image tries to replace, enhance, or collaborate with the executive branch. It isn't "like the police" (analogy) in any way or form.

 

[Waygeek]

That argument is a fallacy.

Nope. And no one is making it besides. Nowhere have I posited the concept of 'rectification'. These are the inventions of your unwell mind.

The entire penal (and healthcare) system in western societies is based on the princpal taht you can change, and fix people.

Now HERE is a fallacy.

Watch enough sentencing on youtube, and you'll know this is complete fucking bullshit. Judges frequently say that while reformation is one of the aims, sometimes that doesn't seem likely given the severity of the evidence, and then there's the factor of retribution for the victims. There's also the concept of deterrence. So the only one bringing fallacies in here is you, in fact.

The analogy stands, irrespective of whether you like it or not.

There's another one to be hand though.

"Just because we have had a few burglaries doesn't mean that's why we have the neighbourhood watch!"

Yeah love a good curb stomp.

 

[Calyptor]

Antifas are vermin cowards

 

[Waygeek]

Antifas are vermin cowards

Great argument, UKIP voter. Lots to think about.

 

[DinohScene]

This thread has outlived its usefulness, discussion pretty much ended 2 years ago.