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"Apes" are a subgroup of monkeys. Also, by extension, humans being a subspecies of apes, are also monkeys.
All apes are monkeys but not all monkeys are apes

However obviously scientific definitions differ from common divisions, like how someone might disagree that tomatoes, corn, cucumbers, eggplant, squash, peas, beans, walnuts etc are all fruits

Knowledge is knowing apes are monkeys, wisdom is not putting apes in a monkey salad
 

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All apes are monkeys but not all monkeys are apes
Yes, that's how "subgroups" or "subsets" work.

Knowledge is knowing apes are a distinct subgroup of monkeys, wisdom is knowing not to point out taxonomical minutiae when the statement made isn't even incorrect as such.

Did you know coconuts aren't nuts? Peanuts are actually beans? Strawberries aren't berries? But bananas are? (You probably did.) But is there a need to correct people about things when it doesn't really matter?

Also tortoises are turtles, fite me.
 
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Yes, that's how "subgroups" or "subsets" work.

Knowledge is knowing apes are a distinct subgroup of monkeys, wisdom is knowing not to point out taxonomical minutiae when the statement made isn't even incorrect as such.

Did you know coconuts aren't nuts? Peanuts are actually beans? Strawberries aren't berries? But bananas are? (You probably did.) But is there a need to correct people about things when it doesn't really matter?

Also tortoises are turtles, fite me.
As for me I am still trying to figure out why they call tortoises literally "crow turtle" in Chinese 乌龟
 

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However obviously scientific definitions differ from common divisions, like how someone might disagree that tomatoes, corn, cucumbers, eggplant, squash, peas, beans, walnuts etc are all fruits

Just came here to make sure you weren't calling me a "Fruit"
 
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As for me I am still trying to figure out why they call tortoises literally "crow turtle" in Chinese 乌龟
Does "乌" mean only "crow" or does it have other meanings? This random Chinese-English translator page says it means "dark" or "black"

https://en.bab.la/dictionary/chinese-english/乌

Just like English where "raven" also means "black".

So it could just be "black turtle"?

Are Chinese tortoises black?
 

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Does "乌" mean only "crow" or does it have other meanings? This random Chinese-English translator page says it means "dark" or "black"

https://en.bab.la/dictionary/chinese-english/乌

Just like English where "raven" also means "black".

So it could just be "black turtle"?

Are Chinese tortoises black?
They aren't black, but you are right it also has connotations of black

The real reason is that Chinese adds random bullshit adjectives to words because otherwise the one syllable morphemes are too hard to pick out in common speech (there would be like hundreds of possibilities of what you meant with a certain word)

Another example is the word rat being 老鼠 literally "old rat"

Or like frog being 青蛙 literally green frog
 

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