[Rumor] WiikeÜ ?

[beta4attack]

This will do none of those things. A modchip doesn't magically make the console able to run custom code (e.g. a GC or PS2 emulator), it just tricks the existing system software into running the code it can already load from a different place (i.e. it can ONLY run "legit", signed games, and it will ONLY run them if the system menu would have loaded them anyway i.e. they have to be from the correct region).

Then what's the point of it? I mean, it's not like they have the private and common keys (or whatever they're called), and there are no dumps that they can learn anything from (implying they don't have dumps themselves).

 

[msaraiva]

Then what's the point of it? I mean, it's not like they have the private and common keys (or whatever they're called), and there are no dumps that they can learn anything from (implying they don't have dumps themselves).

"backups"

...

Pirating, that's all it's for.

 

[p1ngpong]

Wow so much negativity and crying in this thread, last time I checked this was a hacking community. In previous generations this news would be celebrated. It seems like a lot of you have forgotten what GBAtemp is about, kindly pack your fanboyism into a suitcase, leave and never post here again if this kind of news makes you shit in your diapers with rage.

 

[Costello]

Wow so much negativity and crying in this thread, last time I checked this was a hacking community. In previous generations this news would be celebrated. It seems like a lot of you have forgotten what GBAtemp is about, kindly pack your fanboyism into a suitcase, leave and never post here again if this kind of news makes you shit in your diapers with rage.

As people have said, the console being hacked this early in its life cycle poses a lot of problems:
- there aren't enough good games right now, and now the system being pirated it will mean less major games will be developed for/ported to the console
- the hack can only be used to run backups and doesnt allow homebrew if I understand correctly
It's surprising that the console gets hacked this early, after all Nintendo did manage to keep the 3DS and even the DSi pretty much safe from hacks

 

[DAZA]

I don't own a Wii U but I laugh when people work so hard to find an exploit for the masses, I mean few lol. TBH don't bother with it, the sales figures and hand full of games they're going to release isn't worth it

Run free and enjoy the world outside!!!!

 

[Kyle Hyde]

Wow so much negativity and crying in this thread, last time I checked this was a hacking community. In previous generations this news would be celebrated. It seems like a lot of you have forgotten what GBAtemp is about, kindly pack your fanboyism into a suitcase, leave and never post here again if this kind of news makes you shit in your diapers with rage.

You seem to miss an important point about "hacking". Hackers in the gaming scene do have a big responsibility. Their actions often affect the industry. Sometimes barely noticable and other times with a huge impact on a group of companies. In return, this board, gbatemp, is depending on the industry. You could say it is a form of parasitism (no offense though). You see, a parasite never kills or harms the host too drastically. That is the responsibility we and, above all, the hackers have. We are not supposed to harm the gaming industry. There is a thin line between plain piracy, which you could sometimes call a peccadillo, and blind destruction. This hack, if it is true, could conclude in massive damage to Nintendo, which is in a very critical state with its new console. As a "Supervisor" I hope you think over the way you publically speak here.

 

[msaraiva]

Wow so much negativity and crying in this thread, last time I checked this was a hacking community. In previous generations this news would be celebrated. It seems like a lot of you have forgotten what GBAtemp is about, kindly pack your fanboyism into a suitcase, leave and never post here again if this kind of news makes you shit in your diapers with rage.

GBAtemp should be about homebrew and emulation, not for cheapstakes that don't pay for their own entertainment.

 

[Pong20302000]

GBAtemp should be about homebrew and emulation, not for cheapstakes that don't pay for their own entertainment.

Indeed
Making a system do something it shouldn't like making it play PS1 games or creating your own games, that's the fun as there's irony in a PSP playing N64 games.
Older systems that are now not sold so it allows the older generation of games onto the new system, and people being able to make their own little fun apps and games on it.

An item which is solely for piracy benefits only the seller of the piece, while killing the object it works on.

People should only praise a item that removes restrictions such as a Region Unlocking chip, as it doesn't impede the system's life/success as you are merely given more freedom of the games you can purchase, allowing the creators more access to funding for their next big game and maybe even a chance to show them that they can indeed expand into different regions and that people will support them.

When it's just for making things free, it poses no use apart from people that see that they shouldn't have to work to get anything.
This is what is wrong with people; feeling they are owed for something when they're not.
It's not just making them free, the developers of the game you pirate lose out, they don't get any funds, so how do you expect them to make the next game? The software suddenly lacks because everyone has had to cut costs because they won't get much back for the time they have spent.

It's such a shame that the WiiU will have to deal with this idiocy if this chip is true, people will just buy the system but won't purchase games, Nintendo sell more systems but the software developers and game developers lose out, and if this keeps happening what funding will there be left for games? People will just keep seeing the same over and over again and we get fewer amazing games.

 

[Heavy01]

I don't really mind to be honest.

I love the 3ds and have like 16 games for it, but I can't stand consoles, every game I play on consoles just makes me wish it was available for pc instead.

I'd rather nintendo drop the console industry and focus on handhelds, their handhelds could certainly benefit from better hardware that's for sure.

 

[alex_0706]

the wii u became a little bit more worth to buy. thanks to this

 

[Gahars]

*snip*

Nah, The Waiting Game is region free - and every Wii U owner gets to play it!

...What, I got here late. I had to get the "Wii U has no gaems" joke in somewhere.

 

[Bearpowers]

Will this enable homebrew like emulators, video players that can handle 10 bit MKVs, etc?

 

[Skelletonike]

I don't really mind to be honest.

I love the 3ds and have like 16 games for it, but I can't stand consoles, every game I play on consoles just makes me wish it was available for pc instead.

I'd rather nintendo drop the console industry and focus on handhelds, their handhelds could certainly benefit from better hardware that's for sure.

I prefer the handhelds as well, but that's in general, I also enjoy home systems, although they're not portable and that makes it less comfortable for me to play since I need a TV in order to do so. However Nintendo ditching the home console market would be pretty stupid, they still make really good games for those systems and then there's games that tend to come out mostly in Nintendo systems like Dragon Quest (except for two of them, they were mostly released in a Nintendo console) and there's also the first party games, like Zelda, Metroid and Kirby (I dislike Mario even though it's the biggest seller of all), as long as they make those games, people will buy the system.

Anyway, I'll buy the system that has the best rpg's. This generation I got the 360 because at the time there weren't any rpgs i liked for the PS3 or Wii.

And like previously mentioned above, something that only allows for piracy is honestly stupid, and blatantly illegal. I'm all for flashcarts and softmods that allow for other things besides piracy, but something that has no other use besides piracy this early in the system is quite sad... They could hold it out for a few more months at least. z.z

 

[FAST6191]

Indeed
Making a system do something it shouldn't like making it play PS1 games or creating your own games, that's the fun as there's irony in a PSP playing N64 games.
Older systems that are now not sold so it allows the older generation of games onto the new system, and people being able to make their own little fun apps and games on it.

An item which is solely for piracy benefits only the seller of the piece, while killing the object it works on.

People should only praise a item that removes restrictions such as a Region Unlocking chip, as it doesn't impede the system's life/success as you are merely given more freedom of the games you can purchase, allowing the creators more access to funding for their next big game and maybe even a chance to show them that they can indeed expand into different regions and that people will support them.

When it's just for making things free, it poses no use apart from people that see that they shouldn't have to work to get anything.
This is what is wrong with people; feeling they are owed for something when they're not.
It's not just making them free, the developers of the game you pirate lose out, they don't get any funds, so how do you expect them to make the next game? The software suddenly lacks because everyone has had to cut costs because they won't get much back for the time they have spent.

It's such a shame that the WiiU will have to deal with this idiocy if this chip is true, people will just buy the system but won't purchase games, Nintendo sell more systems but the software developers and game developers lose out, and if this keeps happening what funding will there be left for games? People will just keep seeing the same over and over again and we get fewer amazing games.

Some interesting logic. Allow me a chance to pose a few thought problems based upon them.


"like making it play PS1 games"
It varies from country to country but it should be noted copyright extends into the decades and usually above 50 years in all the major regions. Game companies porting, revisiting, bundling or otherwise making a use of their back catalogue is a well established practice so emulation could be considered to have substantial infringing uses.

"[a Region Unlocking chip] doesn't impede the system's potential for success."
What are the local sales tax rates for the all the counties, cities and states along the west coast of North America and the censorship policies, enforced and unwritten, in the same? I could go on but the eventual answer would be "I do not know" and it varies enough that no one person or even group could be expected to know everything everywhere. It is for this reason we have publishers in different regions and if the chip could be said to undermine this structure..... Similarly the differing censorship policies could reflect badly upon the console maker (see also playstation pornable) and thus its entry into a territory could be impeded.
Finally there are various days/periods where one aims to release something, does not want to release something or you might face competition and want to delay something; in the US there are days like Labor day, thanksgiving and independence day which mean absolutely nothing in the UK and on the flip side there is no such thing as half term holidays in most of the US where you can bet my new game with a substantial school age market would be launched to coincide with such a thing in the UK.

"When it's just for making things free, it poses no use apart from people that see that they shouldn't have to work to get anything."
What happened to the backups, disc preserving, console laser preserving (something a myth as far as I am concerned but that is a different discussion), ease of use and other arguments that usually get trotted out at this point?

"This is what is wrong with people; feeling they are owed for something when they're not."
That is a rather narrow assessment of the reasoning for everybody that ever played in these circles. Is "I am owed nothing but I will take it if I can" not a viable option for reasoning here?

"It's not just making them free, the developers of the game you pirate lose out, they don't get any funds, so how do you expect them to make the next game?"
Does this not touch upon the "impact of unlicensed copies" debate which has raged for years with no clear cut consensus on the matter? See also "well I would not have purchased it anyway", "DLC/in game purchases still count", "I might buy the sequel", "my online game needs a community to function and having someone in that community for the negligible bandwidth cost is potentially better than not having them" and other such arguments.

Similarly the 360 saw an almost trivial hack for many years and it basically ended up the same as the PS3 (arguably its main rival) in terms of the games it got. Indeed it spent quite some time somewhat ahead of the PS3.

Will this enable homebrew like emulators, video players that can handle 10 bit MKVs, etc?

heh 10 bit being seen as useful...
Short version is very unlikely it will allow for that sort of thing by itself if Nintendo have done their job properly and learned their lessons from previous consoles.

 

[Arras]

Will this enable homebrew like emulators, video players that can handle 10 bit MKVs, etc?

The only thing this allows is region locked piracy, which is why most people here don't like this news.

 

[Bearpowers]

Similarly the 360 saw an almost trivial hack for many years and it basically ended up the same as the PS3 (arguably its main rival) in terms of the games it got. Indeed it spent quite some time somewhat ahead of the PS3.




heh 10 bit being seen as useful...
Short version is very unlikely it will allow for that sort of thing by itself if Nintendo have done their job properly and learned their lessons from previous consoles.

All animu is 10-bit these days, reencoding it just loses quality.

 

[gamefan5]

Interesting. First it was Fail0verflow.
Now it's the wiikey team. I cannot wait to see this posted at GoNintendo so that I can read the usual bitching against piracy.
All jokes aside, I actually didn't want this to come this early.

 

[jaouad]

I'm sad by this news. It's really gonna screw them over.

 

[AlanJohn]

Wait a minute, where's the video and download link fulled with endless surveys?
I'm calling fake.

 

[hhs]

It's unpopular to state this opinion on here but without pirate capability I will not buy a WiiU. I could make excuses about the support here in South Korea being atrocious but instead I'm going to just state it out flat. A pirate-able system at least nets Nintendo console and hardware purchases. No pirate support, no purchase. So for all of the people concerned that this is going to hurt Nintendo's sales, as if they have stock in the company, just consider that for some people piracy moves hardware. Better some sales than none.