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But the US isn't first-worldErr, first-world countries other than the US. Didn't think that was unclear.
But the US isn't first-worldErr, first-world countries other than the US. Didn't think that was unclear.
I agree - the 'real' issue is almost always ignored in the aftermath of these tragic events... however, the 'real' issue affects school kids all over the world, yet it's only territories with lax gun control that have to endure school shootings on the scale seen in North America.Hmm... another person whose mental state was all but destroyed leading to a violent streak... Weird... WEIRD. Let's see how many of you blame the gun.... instead of the real issue.
Honestly I've started wondering if it will take organizing a militia and declaring war against the DEA. They keep calling it a war in a vain attempt to distance it from the Prohibition era, might as well give them a real one, right? Decriminalization is already happening for more than just weed on a state-by-state basis. The feds will eventually want to start anither civil war over it, I'm sure, but that's what the Second Amendment is for.If you think that de-criminalization is going to happen anytime soon...I think you may end up waiting a very long time.
Ultimately that is my point. Nobody wants to try ANYTHING. Just rabble rousing and people going into immediate defensive postures when these tragedies happen.
I dont mean to be flippant but people saying thoughts and prayers every time a tragedy happens is just as flippant if you were to ask me.
Yeah you all banned guns and now you get bombs and acid attacks and driving vans into crowds, among many other things that have the potential to rack up a higher body count than any gun ever could. Hell, the UK has all but banned all knives, and that isn't ending violence either. How far are you willing to take this? Put everyone in a stasis chamber like in The Matrix so we can't kill each other with our bare hands?As a European, I fail to understand why weapons are still sold freely there.
In my opinion it is of course the #1 reason for school shootings - without easy access to guns, no shootings, simple as that.
Fuck your second amendment. That needs to be revoked.
But then there's guys like this:
Well I am pretty sure there's mental issues in Europe as well, that is not exclusive to America.
Yeah you all banned guns and now you get bombs and acid attacks and driving vans into crowds, among many other things that have the potential to rack up a higher body count than any gun ever could. Hell, the UK has all but banned all knives, and that isn't ending violence either. How far are you willing to take this? Put everyone in a stasis chamber like in The Matrix so we can't kill each other with our bare hands?
Trucks of peace!driving vans into crowds
I don't usually keep up with gun laws around the world, so forgive me for assuming they were completely banned. My argument still stands because even if they aren't banned, they are still limited, regulated, and probably even monitored and tracked to some degree. My point was that you can keep banning (or limiting in your country's case) the instruments, but you'll never end violence. Like I said before, there are plenty of ways to kill lots more people without a gun. Arson and homemade explosuves can be done with supplies from the local hardware store. Not to mention if someone managed to weaponize fentanyl, which is still easy and cheap to get from the Chinese black marketWhat kind of stupid ass argument is that? Are you saying that because you have liberal gun laws you have planes flying into buildings instead of vans driving into crowds?
We also haven’t banned guns. Most of the incidents of school shootings here in Germany happened with legally acquired guns.
maybe, but most shootouts are not real die hard criminals, just poor teens who can'tcommune, who are disapointed in thier enviroment, who're dumped, got bad grades or just bloodlust.As long as you don't limit normal citizens access to guns, criminals will always have a giant pool of guns to acquire.
But considering there's always a powerful and rich lobby working against that, I don't see criminals being priced out of gun access...
I don't usually keep up with gun laws around the world, so forgive me for assuming they were completely banned. My argument still stands because even if they aren't banned, they are still limited, regulated, and probably even monitored and tracked to some degree. My point was that you can keep banning (or limiting in your country's case) the instruments, but you'll never end violence. Like I said before, there are plenty of ways to kill lots more people without a gun. Arson and homemade explosuves can be done with supplies from the local hardware store. Not to mention if someone managed to weaponize fentanyl, which is still easy and cheap to get from the Chinese black market
maybe, but most shootouts are not real die hard criminals, just poor teens who can'tcommune, who are disapointed in thier enviroment, who're dumped, got bad grades or just bloodlust.
criminals like you describe are to damn aware they can't escape alive for too long when they organise a shootout.
nope most of them just buy them at the gun store.those teens also get their weapons from the same place a criminal would get them in most of the cases.
From some dumbass leaving it around accessibly.
Of course you’re not going to stop someone who is as determined as a terrorist or school shooter but that’s not even half the story.
No one is even suggesting that violence can be „ended“ but it’s also fair to acknowledge that the murder rate in the US is more than five times the one of Germany.
And to put that into context, us population is just a bit more than three times as high as germanies.
Unfortunately, this is true. My overall stance has changed within the past year or so... There needs to be better gun laws in place, but something pushes these people to do such terrible things..I agree - the 'real' issue is almost always ignored in the aftermath of these tragic events... however, the 'real' issue affects school kids all over the world, yet it's only territories with lax gun control that have to endure school shootings on the scale seen in North America.
edit : nvrm this comment lol i misread, sorry. Anyway i know the gun laws aren't gonna change soon or at all but it should be changed how you can aquire one. Maybe also go to school to get some sort of degree that makes it so that you can only buy or own when wheb you do have that certain degreeAnd to put that into context, us population is just a bit more than three times as high as germanies.
also, our cops don't even kill a fraction of the people theirs do, because ours, despite a weapon owning rate of about 30% of all adults, don't think that every movement anyone makes at any time is 'reaching for a gun'