Sony Comes Clean- Personal Data Stolen

[Deleted_171835]

technically this whole chain of events was his fault, he is at the root of it

Well if we're gonna be technical, it's Sony's fault for making it easy enough for Geohot to hack.

Now, that's just stupid.

Using that logic,
It's Nintendo's fault that the DS and Wii got hacked
It's Microsoft's fault that the 360 got hacked
It's Apple's fault that the iPhone got hacked

Why don't we just sue all of them?
After all, it's their fault that they got hacked

 

[coolness]

technically this whole chain of events was his fault, he is at the root of it

Well if we're gonna be technical, it's Sony's fault for making it easy enough for Geohot to hack.

Now, that's just stupid.

Using that logic,
It's Nintendo's fault that the DS and Wii got hacked
It's Microsoft's fault that the 360 got hacked
It's Apple's fault that the iPhone got hacked

Why don't we just sue all of them?
After all, it's their fault that they got hacked

Na if the hackers dont hack than there is no one to give fault to

@machomuu aah okey then

 

[machomuu]

technically this whole chain of events was his fault, he is at the root of it

Well if we're gonna be technical, it's Sony's fault for making it easy enough for Geohot to hack.

Now, that's just stupid.

Using that logic,
It's Nintendo's fault that the DS and Wii got hacked
It's Microsoft's fault that the 360 got hacked
It's Apple's fault that the iPhone got hacked

Why don't we just sue all of them?
After all, it's their fault that they got hacked

Well it's true if we're talking technical. I know it's stupid, that's why I usually don't use logic that technical.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Sure is circular reasoning in here.

 

[machomuu]

Sure is circular reasoning in here.

It's simple:
Joe posts -> I respond using Joe's logic
I prefer to think of it as a line.

 

[BlueStar]

technically this whole chain of events was his fault, he is at the root of it

Well if we're gonna be technical, it's Sony's fault for making it easy enough for Geohot to hack.

Now, that's just stupid.

Using that logic,
It's Nintendo's fault that the DS and Wii got hacked
It's Microsoft's fault that the 360 got hacked
It's Apple's fault that the iPhone got hacked

Why don't we just sue all of them?
After all, it's their fault that they got hacked

You don't see the difference between failing to stop someone from pirating their games and failing to protect the personal data of their users, which they are bound to protect by law, by doing something as utterly stupid and unprofessional as keeping them unencrypted, violating a multitude of laws across the globe including data protection services?

That's why they're being sued. You leave your car at a valet and instead of driving it to a garage and locking it up, they drive it to the ghetto and leave it unlocked with the windows open. When it gets stolen, you wouldn't be annoyed at them, just the people who stole it?

Funny to see that the Champions League game Real Madrid vs Barcelona is sponsored by Playstation and Mastercard.
Thanks to one, someone has the other.

 

[loco365]

Seeing as I have a PSN Account that I never use, I got an email, just now. I'll share it as it don't have any personal data:

Spoiler

Add [email protected] to your address book

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PlayStationÂNetwork

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Valued PlayStation Network/Qriocity Customer:

We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011,
certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account
information was compromised in connection with an illegal and
unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this
intrusion, we have:

1) Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services;

2) Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a
full and complete investigation into what happened; and

3) Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our
network infrastructure by rebuilding our system to provide you
with greater protection of your personal information.

We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill
as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly
and efficiently as practicable.

Although we are still investigating the details of this incident,
we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following
information that you provided: name, address (city, state/province,
zip or postal code), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation
Network/Qriocity password, login, password security answers, and handle/PSN
online ID. It is also possible that your profile data may have been obtained,
including purchase history and billing address (city, state/province, zip
or postal code). If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent,
the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained.
While there is no evidence that credit card data was taken at this time,
we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card
data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution
we are advising that your credit card number (excluding security code) and
expiration date may also have been obtained.

For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email,
telephone, and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive
information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email,
asking for your credit card number, social security, tax identification
or similar number or other personally identifiable information. If you
are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the
entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are
fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your
password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity
user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we
strongly recommend that you change them as well.

To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss,
we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements
and to monitor your credit or similar types of reports.

We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of
this incident, and we regret any inconvenience. Our teams are working
around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as
possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will
continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to
protect personally identifiable information. Providing quality and
secure entertainment services to our customers is our utmost priority.
Please contact us at 1-800-345-7669 should you have any additional questions.

Sincerely,

Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment

===================================

Cher utilisateur du PlayStation Network et des services Qriocity:

Nous avons découvert qu'entre le 17 et le 19 avril 2011, certaines
informations provenant des comptes PlayStation Network et des services
Qriocity ont été compromises suite à une intrusion illégale et non
autorisée dans notre système. En conséquence nous avons dû:

1) Arrêter temporairement les services PlayStation Network et les services Qriocity;

2) Engager une société extérieure reconnue dans la sécurité pour mener une enquête
complète sur ce qu'il s'est passé;

3) Améliorer notre sécurité rapidement et renforcer nos infrastructures réseaux
en reconstruisant notre système avec une protection accrue des données personnelles.

Nous vous remercions de votre patience alors que nous travaillons dur pour résoudre
ces difficultés.

Alors que nous enquêtons sur les détails de cet incident, nous pensons
qu'une personne non autorisée a eu accès aux informations que vous nous
avez transmises: nom, adresse (ville, état, code postal), pays, adresse email,
date de naissance, logins et mots de passe du PlayStation Network et des
services Qriocity, et PSN ID. Il est aussi possible que vos informations
de profil aient été touchées, incluant l'historique de vos achats et l'adresse
de facturation (ville, état, code postal) ainsi que la réponse a votre question
de sécurité pour votre mot de passe. Si vous possédez des comptes secondaires,
les mêmes données sont concernées. Si vous avez fourni vos données de carte
bancaire au travers du PlayStation Network ou des services Qriocity, il est
prudent de vous avertir que votre numéro de carte bancaire (excluant le code
de sécurité) et sa date d'expiration sont concernés. Il n’y a pas de preuve
d’obtention des données de cartes de crédit mais nous ne pouvons pas écarter
cette possibilité.

Pour votre sécurité, nous vous encourageons à être vigilant au sujet
d'emails, appels téléphoniques, et courriers postaux qui pourraient
demander des informations personnelles. Sony ne vous contactera d'aucune
façon, incluant les emails, en vous demandant vos numéros bancaires,
de sécurité sociale, ou d'autres numéros ou informations d'identification
personnelle. Si l'on vous demande ces informations, soyez sûr que cette
demande ne provient pas de Sony. De plus si vous utilisez les mêmes noms
d'utilisateur et mot de passe pour des services non liés au PlayStation
Network ou aux services Qriocity, nous vous recommandons fortement de les
changer. Quand le PlayStation Network et les services Qriocity seront réactivés,
nous vous recommandons également de changer vos identifiants.

Pour se protéger contre de possibles vols d'identité ou des pertes financières,
nous vous encourageons à rester vigilant sur l'évolution de vos données de compte,
votre crédit ou toutes autres données.

Nous vous remercions de votre patience pendant l'investigation de cet incident,
et nous regrettons la gêne occasionnée. Nos équipes travaillent sans relâche
sur ce problème, et nos services seront de retour dès que possible.

Sony prend la question de la protection des informations très au sérieux
et continuera à travailler afin que des mesures additionnelles soient
prises pour protéger les informations personnelles. Fournir des services
de loisirs de qualité et sécurisés pour nos utilisateurs restent notre
priorité. Merci de nous contacter sur 1-800-345-7669 si vous avez d'autres questions.

Sincèrement,

Sony Network Entertainment et Sony Computer Entertainment

 

[matt382]

I don't think this attack has anything to do with the war between hackers and Sony, I mean ultimatly it's the PSN users who get their credit card details stolen that are the victims here. I just think this attack was to steal details, rather than to attack Sony.

 

[cwstjdenobs]

I don't think this attack has anything to do with the war between hackers and Sony, I mean ultimatly it's the PSN users who get their credit card details stolen that are the victims here. I just think this attack was to steal details, rather than to attack Sony.

True, and TBH if people are not just working out how the system works but also doing this they aint hackers, they are fraudsters pure and simple. Fraudsters with some technical know how, but still just cunts. I wish people would learn the various meanings of the word hacker, and notice only people who don't know anything about the culture see this as hacking.

 

[Makoto03]

Pff, hackers have done more evil than good the last few weeks. It's always the same damn song... When will this FINALLY stop?! This is hurting the fucking customers more than helping them...

And this all because of OtherOS that got removed --' Get a fucking PC to fuck with --'

Calm down on the swearing.

Also customers don't have to get a PC if the PS3 was advertised as being able to use OtherOS.

Sony brought this upon themselves. They went lawsuit crazy, took features away from people, and said "oh well". While I don't condone what the hackers are doing, as I said, Sony brought this upon themselves.

it amazes me to no end how many of you people will blindly defend those douchey hackers despite all the wrong they've done to average ps3 owners, whether it be the inconvience of not having online service or the illegal breaching of their personal security information.

I hope they start making arrests soon. can't imagine why they even let that Geo-Ass free to begin with.

 

[KingVamp]

Because Geohot had nothing to do with this and he didn't break any laws.

 

[TheLostSabre]

I don't think this attack has anything to do with the war between hackers and Sony, I mean ultimatly it's the PSN users who get their credit card details stolen that are the victims here. I just think this attack was to steal details, rather than to attack Sony.

True, and TBH if people are not just working out how the system works but also doing this they aint hackers, they are fraudsters pure and simple. Fraudsters with some technical know how, but still just cunts. I wish people would learn the various meanings of the word hacker, and notice only people who don't know anything about the culture see this as hacking.

That's what people get if they're uneducated about anything techno-related.

 

[Abbafan1972]

Is the Playstation Network back up and running yet?

 

[Schlupi]

Is the Playstation Network back up and running yet?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/09/s...-_n_859345.html

WTF... no, it's not.

I can't believe they are going to take that long. They BETTER fix it in that amount of time...

 

[Makoto03]

Because Geohot had nothing to do with this and he didn't break any laws.

excuses, excuses...

 

[KingVamp]

Because Geohot had nothing to do with this and he didn't break any laws.

excuses, excuses...

Say... say what?

I guess it be better if he went to jail for no reason.

 

[Makoto03]

Because Geohot had nothing to do with this and he didn't break any laws.

excuses, excuses...

Say... say what?

I guess it be better if he went to jail for no reason.

yes it would. wouldn't lose sleep over one less douchebag on the streets. especially one whose actions indirectly lead to me not being able to play on psn for past 3 weeks.

 

[KingVamp]

Because Geohot had nothing to do with this and he didn't break any laws.

excuses, excuses...

Say... say what?

I guess it be better if he went to jail for no reason.

yes it would. wouldn't lose sleep over one less douchebag on the streets. especially one whose actions indirectly lead to me not being able to play on psn for past 3 weeks.

I didn't understand how it is his fault when there no connection between him and these hackers.

All this could be completely two different groups of hackers and hack methods.

 

[Sterling]

Because Geohot had nothing to do with this and he didn't break any laws.

excuses, excuses...

Say... say what?

I guess it be better if he went to jail for no reason.

yes it would. wouldn't lose sleep over one less douchebag on the streets. especially one whose actions indirectly lead to me not being able to play on psn for past 3 weeks.

Dude, no offense, but you do know how much of a douche bag you sound like right? Geoego had nothing to do with this. Sure he figured out the system, but after that it was only a matter of time that illegitimate fraudsters (with know-how) figured out that Sony was incredibly lax with security. Sony NEEDS to take most of this heat, and receive it's share of Justice. Not only has it been long in coming, but the have blatantly insulted their customers by claiming that, "You will buy it anyway." I swear, brandboys are all blind sheep.

 

[KingVamp]

"You will buy it anyway."

They said that?

All I remember on the lines is "it not your system" or something like that.