The United Nation's World Health Organization has just voted to add "gaming disorder" to their list of officially recognized illnesses. This decision was voted on unanimously by 194 members of the WHO, as part of the eleventh revision to the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems, which is referred to as by the much easier to remember term, ICD-11. Many companies within the gaming industry strongly opposed the choice, such as the ESA, who claimed that such a classification would only serve to "recklessly trivialize real mental health issues" and that the WHO lacks the proper medical studies to come to such a conclusion.

According to the newly defined illness, the definition of "gaming disorder" is the following:

Gaming disorder is characterized by a pattern of persistent or recurrent gaming behaviour (‘digital gaming’ or ‘video-gaming’), which may be online (i.e., over the internet) or offline, manifested by:

1. impaired control over gaming (e.g., onset, frequency, intensity, duration, termination, context);
2. increasing priority given to gaming to the extent that gaming takes precedence over other life interests and daily activities; and
3. continuation or escalation of gaming despite the occurrence of negative consequences. The behaviour pattern is of sufficient severity to result in significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning.

The pattern of gaming behaviour may be continuous or episodic and recurrent. The gaming behaviour and other features are normally evident over a period of at least 12 months in order for a diagnosis to be assigned, although the required duration may be shortened if all diagnostic requirements are met and symptoms are severe.

Gaming disorder is classified under addictive behaviors, next to excessive gambling, with the phrasing of the descriptions even being exactly the same between the two.

Gambling disorder is characterized by a pattern of persistent or recurrent gambling behaviour, which may be online (i.e., over the internet) or offline, manifested by:

1. impaired control over gambling (e.g., onset, frequency, intensity, duration, termination, context);
2. increasing priority given to gambling to the extent that gambling takes precedence over other life interests and daily activities; and
3. continuation or escalation of gambling despite the occurrence of negative consequences. The behaviour pattern is of sufficient severity to result in significant impairment in personal, family, social, educational, occupational or other important areas of functioning.

The pattern of gambling behaviour may be continuous or episodic and recurrent. The gambling behaviour and other features are normally evident over a period of at least 12 months in order for a diagnosis to be assigned, although the required duration may be shortened if all diagnostic requirements are met and symptoms are severe.

The Australian Interactive Games and Entertainment Association, essentially that country's branch of the ESA, denounced the classification of over-indulgent gaming as a mental disorder, claiming that "[The IGEA] are concerned they reached their conclusion without the consensus of the academic community". They also believe that parental controls and moderating a balanced amount of playtime is essential, further stating, "the consequences of today's action could be far-reaching, unintended, and to the detriment of those in need of genuine help".

The ICD-11 will go into effect on January 1, 2022.

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[Bladexdsl]

they just need to ban fortnite = problem solved

 

[Xzi]

Honestly I have no problem with the definition presented, since this isn't an issue of too much gaming so much as it is an issue of gaming to the detriment of all other activities. This type of obsessive focus on a single activity can also be classified under depression, but there's nothing wrong with classifying it as its own separate thing, either. The bigger dilemma is getting actual help for individuals suffering from this or any other mental condition, because mental illness is extremely stigmatized here in the US and we have no legitimate mental healthcare infrastructure.

 

[DeadSkullzJr]

Alright I am just going to say this now, I can't really disagree about it being a disorder. I personally love playing video games, don't get me wrong, it's definitely a great break away from reality when shit hits the fan, when you are bored, when you want to play with friends and/or family, etc. Video games also teach people sometimes as well but that's not enough to outweigh the problems. Now before World War III is started, hear me out. As we all know, video games are a form of digital entertainment, they have been around for many years, pushing many limits with hardware and opening many more possibilities for people (you) to expand their imagination and expand their preferences on the content they (you) want to enjoy. However now a days, people have taken video games for granted and ran with it a little too much. Quite a few if not majority (don't exaggerate over this, just think logically here) of kids and adults these days are on a game console, smart device, a computer, basically anything with a screen. It's gotten to the point though that quite a few people aren't doing much of anything productive anymore (too many if you ask me), you don't see many kids playing outside anymore, reading a book, etc., half of the ones you do see, at least one or two of the kids were forced to do such activities because the parents want the kid(s) to do something refreshing for once, back in the day playing outside, reading a book, etc., was very common, even when video games were around. You have people in general that aren't taking care of themselves well enough that they actually let themselves go a bit because all they do is game most of the time. A lot of gamers develop really bad postures, yet in the same breath complain about it, when really they did it to themselves. Hell people made gaming a career, which honestly doesn't seem healthy in the sense of learning and growing in knowledge/wisdom, it's one thing to develop games, but playing games, yea.....that just doesn't seem fitting for people to do. Nothing wrong with doing what you love, but you need to understand the differences between something worthwhile and a hobby/small activity. Another issue I would like to address is how people think with video games, nothing wrong with feeling good about being a player kicking ass in a game and what not, but the moment you start trying to bring them into reality, sexualizing them even, among other various things, that just seems overkill and really disturbing.

I don't blame video games really, but the people themselves. People have the ability to choose to do the right thing with themselves or do the wrong thing and get attached to something like gaming to the point that they eat, shit, piss, sleep video games. Like I said, I love video games, but would I sit in front of a screen 12 or so hours a day playing video games, hell no, as much as I love video games, it's not worth wasting valuable time over. I don't go to school, graduate, go to college, graduate, then settle for something that doesn't make sense as a job, that's just me personally.

Truth is, when you do something like that constantly, it sort of is like gambling, because you gamble your time, your future, your life.

 

[Deleted-481927]

I believe gender dysphoria is a real thing that exists, but it's no excuse to go chopping your johny long off. However, the majority of people seeking sex changes (gender reassignment is the popular term I believe) don't suffer from any of the rare physical conditions that greatly contribute to the gender dysphoria disorder - they simple want to flip flop between identifying as a man or a women. There is no good reason that I can see in cutting your long john off. Depending on who you ask it is indeed a mental disorder. I'd call that a much more serious problem then spending too much time playing video games.

It is an excuse it's treatment approved by WHO, professionals and "More than 90 percent of people who have undergone SRS claim to be generally satisfied with the procedure." Source: https://www.verywellmind.com/sex-reassignment-surgery-srs-and-happiness-1123904

Essentially it dilutes bottom dysphoria, not all trans people have it badly down there, but when they do have it badly over 90% of people are happy with it.

It is not a mental disorder - being genderfluid, bigender, trigender and etc is where you "flip flop" (in a way, I wouldn't describe it like that) and even that is not mental disorder and WHO have said it isn't and many other professionals.

SRS is effective and maybe if you're not trans (I'm not) it's harder to get it (understanding I mean).

It is sometimes viewed as a mental disorder by the public, rarely by professionals because "The majority of appointments for patients will be with gender specialist clinicians who may have a background in psychology or psychiatry, although we don’t view gender identity issues as “mental illness”."

Psychotherapy and CBT is used to help build coping methods, such as with CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) where CBT is used to help the patient cope with their symptoms.

"The American Psychiatric Association stated that gender nonconformity is not the same thing as gender dysphoria, and that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.""

Sources: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-cfs/treatment/ , https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/ , https://gic.nhs.uk/info-support/gender-dysphoria/ , https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

And correct, the majority of people don't suffer from the physical conditions.

It may be connected with mental disorders - e.g depression and the dysphoria may be a cause, but gender dysphoria itself isn't a mental illness.

People experience gender dysphoria differently but it is the same condition - which is not a mental illness.

Edit: Adding more ab it being in the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition) so is autism, and that isn't a mental illness ("Autism is a highly variable neurodevelopmental disorder", "Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) refers to a group of complex neurodevelopment disorders characterized by repetitive and characteristic patterns of behavior and difficulties with social communication and interaction. The symptoms are present from early childhood and affect daily functioning.").

So the DSM clearly doesn't contain just mental disorders, but even disorders (gender dysphoria, autism) that can be helped with psychological treatment, as I've used with my example of CFS which is a psychical condition that can be helped w psychotherapy.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism#Causes , https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders...ct-Sheets/Autism-Spectrum-Disorder-Fact-Sheet

Another argument is that we considered homosexuality a mental illness until 1992 ("Meanwhile, the World Health Organization (WHO) only removed homosexuality from its ICD classification with the publication of ICD-10 in 1992,") and we don't now - so let's apply that logic to gender dysphoria.

Sources: Philosophy Tube: "Suic!de and Ment@l He@lth | Philosophy Tube ★" , https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/...n-homosexuality-stopped-being-mental-disorder



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[SG854]

It is an excuse it's treatment approved by WHO, professionals and "More than 90 percent of people who have undergone SRS claim to be generally satisfied with the procedure." Source: https://www.verywellmind.com/sex-reassignment-surgery-srs-and-happiness-1123904

Essentially it dilutes bottom dysphoria, not all trans people have it badly down there, but when they do have it badly over 90% of people are happy with it.

It is not a mental disorder - being genderfluid, bigender, trigender and etc is where you "flip flop" (in a way, I wouldn't describe it like that) and even that is not mental disorder and WHO have said it isn't and many other professionals.

SRS is effective and maybe if you're not trans (I'm not) it's harder to get it (understanding I mean).

It is sometimes viewed as a mental disorder by the public, rarely by professionals because "The majority of appointments for patients will be with gender specialist clinicians who may have a background in psychology or psychiatry, although we don’t view gender identity issues as “mental illness”."

Psychotherapy and CBT is used to help build coping methods, such as with CFS (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) where CBT is used to help the patient cope with their symptoms.

"The American Psychiatric Association stated that gender nonconformity is not the same thing as gender dysphoria, and that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.""

Sources: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-cfs/treatment/ , https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/ , https://gic.nhs.uk/info-support/gender-dysphoria/ , https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

And correct, the majority of people don't suffer from the physical conditions.

It may be connected with mental disorders - e.g depression and the dysphoria may be a cause, but gender dysphoria itself isn't a mental illness.

People experience gender dysphoria differently but it is the same condition - which is not a mental illness.

Edit: Adding more ab it being in the DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th Edition) so is autism, and that isn't a mental illness ("Autism is a highly variable neurodevelopmental disorder", "Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) refers to a group of complex neurodevelopment disorders characterized by repetitive and characteristic patterns of behavior and difficulties with social communication and interaction. The symptoms are present from early childhood and affect daily functioning.").

So the DSM clearly doesn't contain just mental disorders, but even disorders (gender dysphoria, autism) that can be helped with psychological treatment, as I've used with my example of CFS which is a psychical condition that can be helped w psychotherapy.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5 , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism#Causes , https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders...ct-Sheets/Autism-Spectrum-Disorder-Fact-Sheet

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Disorders need to cause mental distress and negative outcomes. If it doesn’t then it’s not a disorder.



Gender Dysphoria is by definition a mental disorder. You even provided yourself that it’s a disorder. I’ll even quote what you quoted.

"gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition."

It’s persistent dysphoria and distress that makes it a disorder. Lower levels of dysphoria that is not persistent isn’t a disorder. But persistent mild and high levels are.


Homosexuality was removed because it didn’t cause distress.

 

[bandithedoge]

 

[Deleted-481927]

Disorders need to cause mental distress and negative outcomes. If it doesn’t then it’s not a disorder.



Gender Dysphoria is by definition a mental disorder. You even provided yourself that it’s a disorder. I’ll even quote what you quoted.




It’s persistent dysphoria and distress that makes it a disorder. Lower levels of dysphoria that is not persistent isn’t a disorder. But persistent mild and high levels are.

It's not a disorder it's a condition - I'm not a professional however many have said that, I never said it was a disorder.

Sources: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/, https://www.webmd.com/sex/gender-dysphoria#1

 

[SG854]

It's not a disorder it's a condition - I'm not a professional however many have said that, I never said it was a disorder.

Sources: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/, https://www.webmd.com/sex/gender-dysphoria#1

You didn’t say it was a disorder that’s why I’m correcting you.

You even quoted DSM-5 which Dr. Ray Blanchard’s research greatly contributed to. (He was a member of sexual and gender identity disorders work group for DSM-5.) He says mild levels is very much a disorder, and people that think otherwise is because they are misinterpreting the diagnosis.

 

[cots]

long ass wall of text

The American DSM says it's a mental disorder, which, has recently been reduced in severity (with the introduction of the DSM-V) and the main examples you linked to refer to people who have mutated or mixed physical characteristics, not just someone who wants to be a women one week and a man the next. I also don't care if the "top scientific minds" in the UK agree it's not a disorder as if you chop your penis off you clearly have fucking really bad mental problems. There is a really big difference between people that simply don't want to be a man or don't feel like being a women and the rare cases of mutations or genetic mishaps. Still, it's not reason to go cutting parts of your body off for nor in any case should I have to pay for it with my taxes.