US troops withdrawal from Afghanistan

[djpannda]

I don't understand why people cannot see the pattern that is clearly here related to this administration.

Is everyone blaming Trump for US major border issues with Mexico?

Is everyone blaming Trump for US energy prices going up?

Is everyone blaming Trump for massive inflation that is occurring in the US?

Is everyone blaming Trump for the hot mess this administration has caused and continues to cause with covid?

This is just a continuation of further evidence that this administration is going to be very bad for the US.

Whether the panda pulls his head from the sand it is placed in or not, it is happening. And it is not under Trump.

Because Biden inherited a DUMPSTER FIRE.. 400,000 dead American in 2 year ( the most American non war Deaths).. Economy the lowest since 2008 recession. Horrible International deals (talliban, Russian Spy) that weaken USA Global standing...
There so much Biden Admin can Fix in 8 Months...

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especially when Trump Purposely set it so Biden could not Change it Without Destroying US Creditability

Trump on Afghanistan, June 26, 2021:

"I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn't stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don't we think? 21 years. [The Biden admin] couldn't stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop."

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 16, 2021

 

[djpannda]

Biden has not fixed anything in 8 months.

Soo you agree..

 

[djpannda]

That's what you got from my post?

Not even a decent attempt at deflection.

So you are just a Biden cheer leader no matter what the administration does negatively to the US.

Got it.

So your saying Biden is a horrible President because he could not fix the mess he inherited from Trumps admin?

 

[smf]

You still cant explain why during the 4 years that Trump was in power there were no sight of aggresive take over from any extremist groups.

Trump set the date the troops would be pulled out. That is a pretty solid explanation. It's not all Trump's fault though, there are 20 years of failings. Biden isn't even mostly to blame.

 

[DoubleDate]

Cant wrap my mind of how people are still defending Biden after this horrible case. The denials should go to Afghanistan and see what those people are experiencing now. They talk like that because they are not affected and are comfy in their chairs while the people there are in such horrible fear. If it was Trump that botched it there would mass protest about people wanting him out of the white House. Were are the protestors? The human activist? The Hollywood stars cry? Deafening silence from everywhere. The one in this mess are the poor abandoned people who have trusted and put all their hope in the US government to help them out without any bloodshed.

This is total on Biden. Biden followers are still ignoring the part where his most highest commands told him not to do what he did, he ignored everything. They cant even explain why Kamala Harris is distancing herself from this mess. Even the part that he was on a vacacion trip while whole Afghanistan was on the fall shows how important it is to him.

Unfortunately, extremist have seen now how weak this administration is, embrace yourself the upcoming 3 years, its going to be bad.

 

[smf]

So you agree Biden and his administration cannot make things better.

Got it.

In Afghanistan, no.

 

[djpannda]

So you agree Biden and his administration cannot make things better.

Got it.

Well by salting the Earth as Trump left, does not really help..
but there you go ...The last 50 year of President Admins have really done help to actually Help...

 

[smf]

Cant wrap my mind of how people are still defending Biden after this horrible case.

Defending him for what? Not realizing that the Afghanistan army would disappear so quickly as the Taliban advanced?

I'm not sure what you would have him do differently in 8 months that even the last 20 years hasn't achieved?

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Unfortunately, extremist have seen now how weak this administration is, embrace yourself the upcoming 3 years, its going to be bad.

America has always been weak, they show this when they are at war and when they are not at war.

 

[djpannda]

Unfortunately, extremist have seen now how weak this administration is, embrace yourself the upcoming 3 years, its going to be bad. Biden

MAGA still really does not Get it. Biden Did not WIN because HE was going to "the Best President"
Biden only won because he was going Against TRUMP (period)...
Most People don't Love Biden.. They just Hate TRUMP that much.
This Goat Would of Got More Votes Than Trump
Dog and goat serving as mayor raise money for a playground

 

[DoubleDate]

Defending him for what? Not realizing that the Afghanistan army would disappear so quickly as the Taliban advanced?

I'm not sure what you would have him do differently in 8 months that even the last 20 years hasn't achieved?

He was told not to take such actions, he should've NOT abandoned the people like that. This all couldve been avoided had he done a good properly retreat plan. He just toke everyone out without any notice, he withdrew without putting the safety of the people first.

Even the Afghan authorities were baffled by what happened. To avoid mass killings the Afghan army gave up, at least the loyal ones. Biden couldve retreated its people first instead of what he did. This is what will be on him.

Trump defnitely wouldn't have allowed what happened, there is no way that Afghanistan would've fallen so fast. The idea was to give the power to the Afghan authorities, Biden just bolted and left everyone on their own. It was so botched that all important files needed to be burned. It was a very bad bad strategic exit.

 

[djpannda]

LoL most people don't love Biden.

Probably the only realistic thing I have read from you so far.

Thanks

I beg to differ .. "This Goat Would of Got More Votes Than Trump"
is way more Realistic

 

[DoubleDate]

MAGA still really does not Get it. Biden Did not WIN because HE was going to "the Best President"
Biden only won because he was going Against TRUMP (period)...
Most People don't Love Biden.. They just Hate TRUMP that much.
This Goat Would of Got More Votes Than Trump
Dog and goat serving as mayor raise money for a playground

Mate you are the only one that i know that praises Biden so much. No one i know is for Trump or Biden, but at least during the 4 years of Trump we werent dealing with this kind of stuff.

Just admit that Biden made a very bad strategic choice, he could've prevented this.

 

[djpannda]

Trump defnitely wouldn't have allowed what happened,

Yea he was planing on all this happening by Xmas

 

[DoubleDate]

Yea he was planing on all this happening by XmasView attachment 273231

Mate you are still over repeating the same Twitter messages about Trump. Did you even care to read the backup plan he had? The idea was to give the Afghan authorities the power after them leaving, the extremist agreed with it. Trump also said that any aggresive attacks he would take action. The extremist understood that.

What did Biden do? Abandoning whole Afghanistan, even with his citizens in it. We wouldn't have seen what we have seen the past few days if he was still the president (Trump). As i said im deffo not a Trump fan neither a Biden fan, but it doesn't look good with this Biden administration.

Again, if nothing is done, they will come for Europe, and then what? Europeans mass Emigration to the American continent. Those people need someone who can keep them in check or everything is going to fall like domino stones.

 

[djpannda]

the problem I have with your logic Panda is you ignore basically all logic when making statements like this.

Joe had recommendations from people that know this stuff, he also had intelligence reports that would have indicated this would be a very bad idea. Yet he told the American people 1.5 months ago when people suggested this could be bad, that there is NO WAY it will be bad. He is supposed to be an expert on this kind of stuff.

You are trying to suggest things would have gone the same way under Trump, the only problem is that Trump is not some old senile man who is seen as being very weak. (And even more so now)

We can what if all day, but the fact of the matter this did not occur under Trump. And for you to argue it would have, just shows how little you have paid attention. You are saying then Trump would have ignored the intelligence leading up to this? Like Joe did? Seems pretty ignorant to make that call and it suggests you are emotionally tied to Biden and not thinking this through.

Wait When did we stop Using Tweets as Undeniable Proof of Stuff... Shit we got to Let the VAL anD Jimbo know!! They still using the Old Standard

 

[Lacius]

Mate you are still over repeating the same Twitter messages about Trump. Did you even care to read the backup plan he had? The idea was to give the Afghan authorities the power after them leaving, the extremist agreed with it. Trump also said that any aggresive attacks he would take action. The extremist understood that.

What did Biden do? Abandoning whole Afghanistan, even with his citizens in it. We wouldn't have seen what we have seen the past few days if he was still the president (Trump). As i said im deffo not a Trump fan neither a Biden fan, but it doesn't look good with this Biden administration.

Again, if nothing is done, they will come for Europe, and then what? Europeans mass Emigration to the American continent. Those people need someone who can keep them in check or everything is going to fall like domino stones.

It was only three weeks ago that Trump said the following:

"All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process."

So, if Trump is being truthful, everything is his fault, not Biden's.

 

[DoubleDate]

It was only three weeks ago that Trump said the following:

"All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process. 21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process."

So, if Trump is being truthful, everything is his fault, not Biden's.

Still ignoring the fact that he made a deal to prevent mass casualties like its happening now. Trump made lots of Twitter post yet you people use the one that fits more to your own purposes. Where is the twitter post were he said he wanted to make a deal? Nopes Biden followers dont care about that because it doesnt fit in the purpose that they are spreading.

He made plans, but as time passes by new intelligence comes in, meaning new strategic plans. Let be really be serious here, Trump would've never let happened what Biden allowed to happen under his watch.

Biden was advised not to make a such retreat, he was told not to do that yet he did and now Afghanistan is a whole cluster mess.

Did you hear anything about uprising extremist during Trumps presidency? Me neither.

 

[djpannda]

he made a deal to prevent mass casualties like its happening now.

May I ask what language is Written Exactly that express this statement on the Withdraw agreement that Trump signed?

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If you are suggesting Trump making a comment when he is NOT the current president and lacks the current intelligence makes him responsible f

So your Defense is Trump is talking "out of His Ass"?
but that cant be right ?? He's the Mastermind that Signed the Agreement for USA RETREAT?

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and

Biden had the intelligence when the comment was made, Trump did not.

If you are suggesting Trump making a comment when he is NOT the current president and lacks the current intelligence makes him responsible

I don't know how to tell you this but as EX president Trump does get
Presidential INTEL Brief WHENEVER THEY WANT!
So Trump Either Knows Whats Happening (because he has access to the info) and say those comments to knowing its going to make Biden and American looks bad, or B. does not check shit and is Talking out of his ass

 

[DoubleDate]

May I ask what language is Written Exactly that express this statement on the Withdraw agreement that Trump signed?

The extremist and Trump agreed on a more approachable humane withdrawal without any killing or seizing. The extremist were in favour of leaving the country on the hands of the Afghan authorities. The purpose was for a stable power exchange.

Biden just lapped it under his boots and did against All advice in the withdrawal. The extremist warned Biden to leave but for unknown reasons Biden set the leave plan to September what upset the extremist and took they control. This All could've been prevented. Every thing that they said now ( Biden administration) has failed. They abandoned the people and expexted the whole country to fight, things backfired on him.

 

[djpannda]

The extremist and Trump agreed on a more approachable humane withdrawal without any killing or seizing. The extremist wwre in favour of leaving the country on the hands of the Afghan authorities. The purpose was fo a stable power exchange.

Biden just lapped it under his boots and did against All advice in the withdrawal. The extremist warned Biden to leave but for unknown reasons Biden set the leave plan to September what upset the extremist and took control. This All could've been prevented. Every that they said now ( Biden administration) has failed. They abandoned the people and expexted the whole country to fight, things backfired on him.

Still did not answer the Question
What Language Writing on the Agreement states that..