USA - Russia is mocking you for bringing home a junkie!

[tabzer]

I'm not being ironic at all, I'm pointing out that the government dictating that even the smallest amount of drugs on you makes you an automatic junkie, is propaganda by it's very definition, I'm not sure what's to even debate on this matter.

If you are willing to stake your safety and your entire future on a small dose of THC oil, you may have a problem.

 

[MikaDubbz]

If you are willing to stake the safety of your entire future on a small dose of THC oil, you may have a problem.

Again, not what I'm debating. I'm simply stating the label of junkie on her is pure propaganda.

I wonder if they've arrested any 'junkies' over the years over there whose drug of choice was caffeine via their daily coffee. Wouldn't be surprised at all.

 

[mrdude]

Yes, and by Russian standards, the Ukrainian people are Nazis.

To be fair, there is a lot of Nazi types in Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

 

[MikaDubbz]

To be fair, there is a lot of Nazi types in Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary-idUSKBN1GV2TY

K, ultimately inconsequential to my actual argument. But noted I guess.

 

[tabzer]

I'm simply stating the label of junkie on her is pure propaganda.

I'm stating that your view of "culture being different" being "propaganda" is a little broken.

I wonder if they've arrested any 'junkies' over the years over there whose drug of choice was caffeine via their daily coffee. Wouldn't be surprised at all.

Coffee junkies exist everywhere. I don't know where they get arrested. People normally get arrested for possession, not being a junkie. The notion she was willing to risk so much for so little is more of a case of her being a junkie than if she had pallets of it.

K, ultimately inconsequential to my actual argument

Which was the irony of you putting out your own propaganda to "call out propaganda".

 

[MikaDubbz]

I'm stating that your view of "culture being different" being "propaganda" is a little broken.

The government telling you that any amount of a controlled substance instantly makes you a junkie is pure propaganda, you can try and argue around that all you want, but it is what it is. Just as those anti-drug PSAs back in the 80s in America were pure propganda too. Yes drugs can be bad, and yes you can get addicted to them, but what makes a junkie a junkie is not dictated by the government, it's dictated by the body with the addiction. And again, she is not a body with an addiction that would qualify her as a junkie. Sure by "Russian standards" she is, but in reality, she is not at all.

Coffee junkies exist everywhere. I don't know where they get arrested. People normally get arrested for possession, not being a junkie. The notion she was willing to risk so much for so little is more of a case of her being a junkie than if she had pallets of it.\

Well no wonder you have such a messed up view of what makes a junkie a junkie. A 'coffee junkie' isn't a real thing. You want to know what a junkie is? It's someone that will suck your dick in an alleyway for their next fix. It's someone that will break into their neighbor's house and steal their TV and sell it at a pawn shop for their next fix. I know you know what a real junkie is, and I hope to God you actually do recognize that she isn't a real junkie at all, but she is, sure, by "Russian standards," another name for which would clearly be Propaganda.

 

[mrdude]

You want to know what a junkie is? It's someone that will suck your dick in an alleyway for their next fix.

And by that same standard, someone that will try to conceal and smuggle drugs through a foreign countries customs so they can get their next fix.

 

[MikaDubbz]

And by that same standard, someone that will try to conceal and smuggle drugs through a foreign countries customs so they can get their next fix.

You think if she didn't have that cartridge and had no money on her, that she was seriously going to go into a back alley to suck off a stranger to get enough money to buy more marijuana? Seriously!?

She was just a cocky idiot and thought she could get away with it, I guarantee she didn't need it.

 

[mrdude]

You think if she didn't have that cartridge and had no money on her, that she was seriously going to go into a back alley to suck off a stranger to get enough money to buy more marijuana? Seriously!?

She was just a cocky idiot and thought she could get away with it, I guarantee she didn't need it.

Well one things for sure - she's not had many drugs in the last few months unless she's been on her knees sucking on a prison guards purple oboe.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Well one things for sure - she's not had many drugs in the last few months unless she's been on her knees sucking on a prison guards purple oboe.

Yeah, I find it hard to believe she's shivering in the fetal position in the corner because she hasn't had her fix of weed.

 

[tabzer]

The government telling you that any amount of a controlled substance instantly makes you a junkie is pure propaganda, you can try and argue around that all you want, but it is what it is. Just as those anti-drug PSAs back in the 80s in America were pure propganda too. Yes drugs can be bad, and yes you can get addicted to them, but what makes a junkie a junkie is not dictated by the government, it's dictated by the body with the addiction. And again, she is not a body with an addiction that would qualify her as a junkie. Sure by "Russian standards" she is, but in reality, she is not at all.

Well no wonder you have such a messed up view of what makes a junkie a junkie. A 'coffee junkie' isn't a real thing. You want to know what a junkie is? It's someone that will suck your dick in an alleyway for their next fix. It's someone that will break into their neighbor's house and steal their TV and sell it at a pawn shop for their next fix. I know you know what a real junkie is, and I hope to God you actually do recognize that she isn't a real junkie at all, but she is, sure, by "Russian standards," another name for which would clearly be Propaganda.

I admit that there is propagandic messaging in labelling people as junkies for simply using, but the other side of the argument is that breaking a law with heavy consequences for a "proclivity" is comparable to someone sucking dick in an alleyway for their previous fix.

I would smoke marijuana in a place where it is legal, but I wouldn't ever do it in Japan. In one situation I can do it without being a junkie and the other I cannot do it without substantial risk to my life.

The laws can be artificial and even stupid, but the actual consequences are where the weight is.

 

[mrdude]

Yeah, I find it hard to believe she's shivering in the fetal position in the corner because she hasn't had her fix of weed.

She was probably lying in a corner in the fetal position crying because she tried to have her fix of weed - and got caught!

 

[MikaDubbz]

I admit that there is propagandic messaging in labelling people as junkies for simply using, but the other side of the argument is that breaking a law with heavy consequences for a "proclivity" is comparable to someone sucking dick in an alleyway for their previous fix.

I would smoke marijuana in a place where it is legal, but I wouldn't ever do it in Japan. In one situation I can do it without being a junkie and the other I cannot do it without substantial risk to my life.

The laws can be artificial and even stupid, but the actual consequences are where the weight is.

I'm not saying laws weren't broken and that none of this should have happened or anything like that. I've only been arguing that the label of junkie put upon her is not true to what she really is, and as such it reads as propaganda.

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She was probably lying in a corner in the fetal position crying because she tried to have her fix of weed - and got caught!

In reality marijuana withdrawal just isn't a thing, not like hard drugs anyway, which is probably why junkies of the plant aren't really a thing. Probably one of the easier things to quit in life cold turkey, sure you'll have cravings but let's not pretend that's the same as the heroine addict balled up in a corner drenched in a cold sweat with a bucket full of vomit as they try and shake the habbit once and for all.

 

[tabzer]

I'm not saying laws weren't broken and that none of this should have happened or anything like that. I've only been arguing that the label of junkie put upon her is not true to what she really is, and as such it reads as propaganda.

I think I'd argue that the label of junkie is not true to what anybody is. You may see a culture as being obtuse to American progressivism, but if they are being honest about their cultural views, I can't call it propaganda.

 

[MikaDubbz]

I think I'd argue that the label of junkie is not true to what anybody is. You may see a culture as being obtuse to American progressivism, but if they are being honest about their cultural views, I can't call it propaganda.

Well, living in the world where the term junkie applies to a certain kind of people, I would say there is a pretty clear distinction between what qualifies and what does not. Brittney simply does not.

 

[TraderPatTX]

Again, not what I'm debating. I'm simply stating the label of junkie on her is pure propaganda.

I wonder if they've arrested any 'junkies' over the years over there whose drug of choice was caffeine via their daily coffee. Wouldn't be surprised at all.

You do know that the label of the other person in the trade is "Merchant of Death". Is that propaganda or do you think he might have earned that label?

So the propaganda threw in a word you didn't like and that is what the left is focused on. You literally fell for the propaganda that you claim to notice and all of a sudden nobody is talking about the arms dealer responsible for 10's of thousands or more American deaths.

Understanding > reacting

 

[MikaDubbz]

You do know that the label of the other person in the trade is "Merchant of Death". Is that propaganda or do you think he might have earned that label?

None of this matters to what I've been debating. I love how people want me to argue about other aspects, when all I want to address is the fact that she is not a junkie by any definition and for Russia to be declaring her as such, is propaganda.

 

[mrdude]

I'm not saying laws weren't broken and that none of this should have happened or anything like that. I've only been arguing that the label of junkie put upon her is not true to what she really is, and as such it reads as propaganda.

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In reality marijuana withdrawal just isn't a thing, not like hard drugs anyway, which is probably why junkies of the plant aren't really a thing. Probably one of the easier things to quit in life cold turkey, sure you'll have cravings but let's not pretend that's the same as the heroine addict balled up in a corner drenched in a cold sweat with a bucket full of vomit as they try and shake the habbit once and for all.

Well I am sure Viktor Bout & Mr Putin aren't concerned whether she's a junkie or not - but thanks to her poor life choices we now have every government with a beef to grind with the USA looking to jail US citizens so they can do their own prisoner swapping deals. Still they could have got Paul Whelan (ex-marine) out instead, but he wasn't a gay, he was the wrong sex and he wasn't coloured enough, so the Biden admin have left him to rot away and USA now have another convicted drug smuggler walking the streets instead of a patriot. It just show's what the Biden admin think about their ex-forces. You can see why people are laughing, because for USA identify politics trumps all. This will be your own downfall.

 

[Deleted member 586536]

When is it ever acceptable during a rescue/trade to go "nah actually, we want only this one. This one doesn't deserve it"
She went into russsia SEVERAL times. It was only until the last Russia decided to take action,and odds are it was for a political trade like this. Is it a bad trade?
Yeah. But, It's better get the person home than stuck in Russia. And your only making a fuss about it now, we done shit like this before.

 

[MikaDubbz]

Well I am sure Viktor Bout & Mr Putin aren't concerned whether she's a junkie or not - but thanks to her poor life choices we now have every government with a beef to grind with the USA looking to jail US citizens so they can do their own prisoner swapping deals. Still they could have got Paul Whelan (ex-marine) out instead, but he wasn't a gay, he was the wrong sex and he wasn't coloured enough, so the Biden admin have left him to rot away and USA now have another convicted drug smuggler walking the streets instead of a patriot. It just show's what the Biden admin think about their ex-forces. You can see why people are laughing, because for USA identify politics trumps all. This will be your own downfall.

Maybe I'd pay more attention to the other aspects of this if I could get past the BS they're putting up front. This was a terrible deal, I don't disagree with that, but that doesn't change how she's simply not a junkie lol.