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Weight Loss Is Positive, Being Overweight Isn't - One Man's Amazing Comeback

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Olive oil and some herbs and spices can be kinda healthy as a topping for both of those things :) (I made that exact meal last night....) Chicken breasts with frozen broccoli is one of my favorite, skin free and mostly fat free.... They tend to leave a little on here and there but baked it's fine.

https://www.amazon.com/Grill-Mates-Seasoning-Mojito-Ounce/dp/B07PZ7HQ9B/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2OC6OV2DIAWGJ&fpw=pantry&keywords=mojito+lime+seasoning+mccormick&qid=1571068623&s=pantry&sprefix=Mojito+Lime+,aps,168&sr=8-3

A sprinkle of this (salt and sugar masterpiece) and some olive oil. So good....

Have you ever tried olive oil sprays? The normal oil from the bottle can quickly add up in calories, but if you can find a spray that doesn't contain any additives you can get an even coat without using too much every single time.

I'm more of an animal fats kind of guy, a little bit of butter really makes the flavours pop, but I suppose it depends on what kind of meal you're cooking.

I use both as I am big fan of lard. Home made chicken nuggets are the bomb if you pan fry them in a pile o' lard. : )

Cooking your own healthy food is really the way to go. If you don't have the time make some and if you don't know how then learn. Otherwise you might end up taking up two airplane seats.
 

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I'm unable to gain weight, have been 150 since i was 16. I cant talk shit to them obsessed folks, I can't really say I worked for what I have, I also dont eat 24/7 and I never stop moving, but that's besides the point lol

I personally dont care if people want to commit suicide by obesity, hell ill probably drink myself to death.
 

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No, but people ought to be able to do what they want with themselves (preferably after receiving fair and neutral education about the issue du jour, but hey you can't have anything)

I agree that people should have free will. I'm all for less laws, but people aren't getting what you mentioned "fair and neutral" education. Hell, they aren't even getting facts (well, at least from the various Left learning media sources). I think people are at a disadvantage if they are being told lies from the get go. It's like "Sorry kid, most of what you've learned has been utter bullshit, welcome to the real world. Thanks for making us rich and now you're on your own. If you need help we're not going to help you, if you need food those pesky Christians are the only ones you can get it from. We'll only give you heroin needles and a safe place to shoot up and we're just going to continue to lie to you". Such a nice group of people!

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I'm unable to gain weight, have been 150 since i was 16. I cant talk shit to them obsessed folks, I can't really say I worked for what I have, I also dont eat 24/7 and I never stop moving, but that's besides the point lol

I personally dont care if people want to commit suicide by obesity, hell ill probably drink myself to death.

Do you have a fast metabolism? If so, eating bad things still will be impacting your body negatively in various ways (if you are eating bad things). Plus, if you do have a fast metabolism it will probably eventually slow down. A lot of people can eat whatever they want until they are in their early 30's and then get real plump and then suffer from various high levels of fat or blockage in arteries, etc ...
 
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I agree that people should have free will. I'm all for less laws, but people aren't getting what you mentioned "fair and neutral" education. Hell, they aren't even getting facts (well, at least from the various Left learning media sources). I think people are at a disadvantage if they are being told lies from the get go. It's like "Sorry kid, most of what you've learned has been utter bullshit, welcome to the real world. Thanks for making us rich and now you're on your own. If you need help we're not going to help you, if you need food those pesky Christians are the only ones you can get it from. We'll only give you heroin needles and a safe place to shoot up and we're just going to continue to lie to you". Such a nice group of people!...
Source, please. for fucksake. Just one source, ANYTHING. I can literately say that every republican is racist, and have nothing to back up my claim. Currently you have nothing to backup what you've been saying or some credible source at all for it. One person can say one thing, but it doesn't represent the whole or the majority. Like when morvan created a thread about "long pigs" which is one crazy person, from one side. When the majority of left people don't support it. You're argument lacks substance, it lacks any attempt at any thought. You're a drone to you're side and you have practically proved it.
Here's a Cognitive Dissonance that I've noticed. You claim that the left is teaching that being fat is fine, that the left has intruded into schools and brainwashed individuals. Yet how can you say that if you don't know what is going through the schools what is being taught? Because here's my experience, at my current school there is no crappy shit lunches. It's made by the students for the students, using a farm to kitchen program. We use ingredients that are local in Tucson, even have grow beds at the school itself. During plant biology we were taught not just about how plants reproduce, but it's uses and effects. Such as one the more helpful ones, aka less processed shit and what the human body needs. So if your claim is that the left is teaching people to be fat yet my experience and other people of my generation have experienced the exact opposite. How is it that this left you claim is encouraging people to be fat when I live in that generation and understand as a fact it's the complete opposite? When this same "left" is supposed to control what they know. That they teach them bullshit?
Answer complete Cognitive Dissonance. It's easier to do it when you dehumanize it, which is exactly why you slam the left so hard, reaffirming you're belief that the left is evil and then associate anything that is bad with it. While turning a blind eye to you're own side.
You want to know why there is a movement for fat people/ more representation? I can boil it to two things that are possibilities.
1. It's trendy seemingly.
People do stupid shit, it's the same for alcohol or the tide pod Challenge, people like doing stupid shit for attention. And it isn't new. The internet however has made it into a extreme due to needing click bate. it could also be that there is just more representation and seemingly more fat people due to the point below.
2. The realization that current tactics of shaming people doesn't work.
If fat shaming did work, then the states should be less fat. But that's not the future we live now is it? https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-09/ucl-sd091014.php
Is it a good thing to loose weight if you're overweight? Absolutely.
However at this point it's clearly that bullying a person for being fat, or harassing them for being fat clearly fucks with their physiology at this point, making them gain weight.
So let's tackle the argument I'm making. Is the left doing this? Because clearly you had to make this political saying that left leaning sites and organizations are saying that being fat is okay for people's health completely destroying any integrity of the main message. I disagree, it's neither left or right, if anything there isn't a side to being fat. In fact if the left is so evil, why is Trump overweight? And even then, why are there republicans that are overweight because there is more than just Trump. Hint being fat doesn't have a side.
 
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2. The realization that current tactics of shaming people doesn't work.
If fat shaming did work, then the states should be less fat. But that's not the future we live now is it? https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-09/ucl-sd091014.php
Is it a good thing to loose weight if you're overweight? Absolutely.
However at this point it's clearly that bullying a person for being fat, or harassing them for being fat clearly fucks with their physiology at this point, making them gain weight.
I would argue the premise of that study engages with the types of people who wouldn't be helped regardless, like saying apply for this job if your treated unfairly for being fat then measuring the weight loss among your employees.....anyone applying probably already has their mind set that they aren't doing anything wrong and its society that should change and not them.....and as such, no weight loss because they don't want to in the first place

as i shared earlier in this thread at one point i had put on a fair bit of weight and someone commented on it, truth is when i was younger i could eat absolutely anything, do zero exercise and still be the same weight, i was the exact same weight for about 7 years, every time i checked it was dot on the same weight.....so when someone said wow your getting a bit chunky i simply hadn't noticed, and once i did notice i worked on reducing my intake and doing some light exercise, im probably still on the lucky side in terms of metabolism as i only really do any exercise after i do some particularly note worthy eating (such as going to an all you can eat buffet or something) but i guess if i had a different mindframe of "how dare he comment on my weight, I'm fine exactly how I am, he is just a nasty fat shaming bully" i would've made no effort to change my weight and i would probably be even larger at this point (that study would actually backup this assertion, the people who live in the same society and would suffer the same "discrimination" but didn't see themselves as the victim lost weight while those who seen themselves as the victim gained, weight....ultimately kinda proving fat shaming did work as long as people aren't told to see themselves as victims

honestly this is how many studies come to be wether it be on purpose or just a flaw in the process used to choose candidates depends on the researcher in question, but when you reach out to find applicants that would already have a disposition/viewpoint that would backup your initial expectation don't be surprised when the data lines up perfectly with what you expected, and don't be so arrogant as to assume there was no flaw in your study that would lead to flawed results, just because a specifically selected set of people don't respond to being told to loose weight doesn't mean it doesn't help anyone, if anything i would say the societal pressure is the only reason a lot of us aren't sitting here at 30 stone with a keyboard in 1 hand and a chocolate cake in the other
 
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It's really hard to lose weight with the amount of processed foods there is, especially if one is low income. Thankfully, you can still exercise even if you eat unhealthy.
i have only lived as me ofc, so i cant imagine how it would be if i had a really low metabolism, but i have lost nearly 3 stone by simply cutting out the occasional mcdonalds, for the initial burst of weight loss i was going on an exercise bike and going for jogs about every 4/5 days, once i had lost a stone i reigned it back bit, lowered my food portions, and when i'm feeling full i don't just "finish the plate off" for the sake of it like i used to, if i'm full i'm full, no point shoving extra in my face just so the plates finished

honestly a few months back i went to an all you can eat buffet and was shocked at how little i actually ate, i remember at one point being "proud" (yeah i know thats embarrassing to now admit) that i could eat my way through 3 plates, this time i could barely manage half of 2 (that sounds weird, but basically i left a little under half on both plates) and even then i felt stuffed

i guess the main thing i would agree with that people shouldn't do is mock/laugh if they see a larger person trying to loose weight, granted there are ways of loosing weight at home people can try if thats a big issue for them, but i'm very disappointed when i see people sharing pictures of larger people at the gym etc, i'm sorry but you should be happy for them, the gym is where they should be, i seems some people think the gym is just a place for instagram models to go to get some carefully angled shots to make it look like they are super toned when really they are just as flabby as the next average joe who walked into a gym of the streets to pose for pictures

i know people who kinda let their weight get too much where they actually cant loose weight now through typical execise due to developing arthritis or joint problems, or loose a bunch through starving themselves then think they can just go back to eating the same crap they used to once they loose a stone or 2 and end up right back where they started
 
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i have only lived as me ofc, so i cant imagine how it would be if i had a really low metabolism, but i have lost nearly 3 stone by simply cutting out the occasional mcdonalds, for the initial burst of weight loss i was going on an exercise bike and going for jogs about every 4/5 days, once i had lost a stone i reigned it back bit, lowered my food portions, and when i'm feeling full i don't just "finish the plate off" for the sake of it like i used to, if i'm full i'm full, no point shoving extra in my face just so the plates finished

honestly a few months back i went to an all you can eat buffet and was shocked at how little i actually ate, i remember at one point being "proud" (yeah i know thats embarrassing to now admit) that i could eat my way through 3 plates, this time i could barely manage half of 2 (that sounds weird, but basically i left a little under half on both plates) and even then i felt stuffed

i guess the main thing i would agree with that people shouldn't do is mock/laugh if they see a larger person trying to loose weight, granted there are ways of loosing weight at home people can try if thats a big issue for them, but i'm very disappointed when i see people sharing pictures of larger people at the gym etc, i'm sorry but you should be happy for them, the gym is where they should be, i seems some people think the gym is just a place for instagram models to go to get some carefully angled shots to make it look like they are super toned when really they are just as flabby as the next average joe who walked into a gym of the streets to pose for pictures

i know people who kinda let their weight get too much where they actually cant loose weight now through typical execise due to developing arthritis or joint problems, or loose a bunch through starving themselves then think they can just go back to eating the same crap they used to once they loose a stone or 2 and end up right back where they started

Instagram? What's that? (Sorry, I don't use modern social media). If I've ever been to that site it was due to a mistake and I don't remember it (If that's the kind of people you'll find on it I don't even care to search to find out what it is).

I don't do gyms. I've never liked them. I have a set of weights and two feet. That's enough for me, but if I did go to them and saw someone obese that was exercising the last thought in my mind would be to laugh at them. I'd be more likely to think "that's what people should be doing". Sure, I'd still probably think they are ugly and fat, but that's just because I find fat people ugly. However, unlike some vocal people I tend to keep my personal opinions to myself.

Oh, by the way, vocal is just code for "loud mouth and whiny". : ) So if anyone has been called vocal you know what people really mean.
 

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