Wii U launch games to only support 720p

[Deleted_171835]

The Wii's AMD/ATI GPU has a lot of potential, very few if any 3rd parties ever took full advantage of it; it's a very capable GPU, it's just there are too many lazy programmers out there. Would it ever reach Xbox 360/PS3 levels? Of course not, but it could most certain match the original Xbox, heck, even the Gamecube's hardware was on par with that console.

I think it's worth mentioning that there hasn't been a single Wii game that is graphically better than Rogue Leader on the Gamecube. Devs didn't bother pushing the hardware.

 

[Dynast_Grausherr]

if the wiiu at low specs looks like current gen i cant wait to see people actually making games that use more of it power.

 

[the_randomizer]

I think it's worth mentioning that there hasn't been a single Wii game that is graphically better than Rogue Leader on the Gamecube. Devs didn't bother pushing the hardware.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that Factor 5 was one of the very few companies who truly knew the ins and outs of a console's hardware, especially the Gamecube. There are reports that Rogue Leader pushed well into the 25-30 million polygon/sec range. That company has done some insane programming on Nintendo's consoles, too bad they went under.

 

[LightyKD]

...Yet another GameCube game that pushed limits, in graphics and AI, Hell I used to display this game at the Game Crazy store I worked at back in 2005 and had people asking me if this was a XBox 360 game only for them to find out that it was a GameCube game. Since Wii is 50% more powerful than this, it was a crying shame that not many publishers pushed the little white box.

 

[VMM]

So the Wii U is going to be defeated on the battlefield by the harsh Russian winter? As illustrated by Napoleon and Hitler.

It still does not support Unreal Engine 4!

Tell me, how will the devs port a game using unreal engine 4 to WiiU?
Incompatible architetures, ok, tell me why you're so sure that there won't be it from a gpu of two years ago to a GPU that does not even exist and will be used at 2016?

Dude, Unreal 4 was practically confirmed for the Wii U... did you miss that bit of news a week or 2 ago? Unreal 4 will support all platforms, from smartphones to consoles, and as a result, Wii U. Even the 360 and PS3 can likely support it.

http://www.dsogaming...gle-nvidia-gpu/

It still does not support Unreal Engine 4!

Can you at least provide non-subjective evidence for that claim?

Tell me, how will the devs port a game using unreal engine 4 to WiiU?

Oh and even then, use unreal engine 3.(whatever) or scale it.

You didn't undestand the comparison and then accuse me of being stupid, oh the irony!
WiiU will support DX11, so what? It still does not support Unreal Engine 4!

Tell me, how will the devs port a game using unreal engine 4 to WiiU?
Incompatible architetures, ok, tell me why you're so sure that there won't be it from a gpu of two years ago to a GPU that does not even exist and will be used at 2016?

Or maybe your comparison was just stupid?

Where did you hear that it won't support UE4? That wasn't confirmed. Even if it doesn't, UE4 has a light version which will be supported on all platforms meaning that devs can use that to port games to the Wii U.

And why are you even getting into hypotheticals?

And then you say I'm stupid! hahaha
The light version of UE4 is made for mobile devices!
It's not gonna support PS3, X360 neither WiiU!
The same with Luminous Engine!
Prepare to crash and burn your hopes!
Let's see who will laugh at the end! hahahaha

 

[KingVamp]

neither WiiU!

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have miss my post. Let's try again.

Can you at least provide non-subjective evidence for that claim?


Plus, that last part really do seem like trolling.

Look at this.
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The reason I didn't include ps3/360 because their consoles are most likely coming out next year.

 

[Eerpow]

neither WiiU!

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have miss my post. Let's try again.

Can you at least provide non-subjective evidence for that claim?


Plus, that last part really do seem like trolling.

Look at this.
Link

The reason I didn't include ps3/360 because their consoles are most likely coming out next year.

We still don't know what the Wii U is capable of, recently Iwata mentioned that at E3 developers were only halfway with what they could have achieved looks wise. He already has confirmed that they are competing against next gen hardware, not current.

UE4 is just that, an engine, there are so many factors that can be changed, considering the lower gap between the next gen consoles only minor changes needs to be done.
Changing around textures, particles, polygons etc is enough to get it running even on the PS3.
UE4 is at the moment mostly focused on PC, next gen hardware will never reach PC levels despite what people think, still UE4 will undoubtedly be running on next gen.
There will be $300 to $400 dollar machines next gen, with that they won't even come close to what an average gaming PC can achieve.

 

[VMM]

neither WiiU!

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have miss my post. Let's try again.

Can you at least provide non-subjective evidence for that claim?


Plus, that last part really do seem like trolling.

Look at this.
Link

The reason I didn't include ps3/360 because their consoles are most likely coming out next year.

You really don't know what they said, do you?
They said that it will run in mobile devices, and on high-end pcs!
But they already said it won't run at WiiU, they have the last WiiU prototype, wich is almost the definetly version, and it can't support WiiU!
Then DSOGaming proposed that if it run on iphone, it could run on WiiU and the last gen, but that's not gonna happen, there is a huge difference between UE4 and it's mobile version!
You wanna a source, that's not my problem, if you don't believe me just wait and see it with your own eyes!

 

[KingVamp]

You really don't know what they said, do you?
They said that it will run in mobile devices, and on high-end pcs!
But they already said it won't run at WiiU, they have the last WiiU prototype, wich is almost the definetly version, and it can't support WiiU!
Then DSOGaming proposed that if it run on iphone, it could run on WiiU and the last gen, but that's not gonna happen, there is a huge difference between UE4 and it's mobile version!
You wanna a source, that's not my problem, if you don't believe me just wait and see it with your own eyes!

I goofed and gave the wrong link.

We have three big goals:

• First, to define the next generation of graphics capabilities that are achievable with DirectX 11 PC’s and future consoles.
• Second, to deliver a toolset with an unprecedented mixture of power, ease-of-use, and polish.
• And finally, to scale the technology and its feature set up and down the spectrum of future computing devices, including iOS and Android, and mainstream PC.

Source

You said they won't run on the wii u, you don't want to give me a source? Ok.


Edit: To make it easier to find.

 

[machomuu]

And then you say I'm stupid! hahaha
The light version of UE4 is made for mobile devices!
It's not gonna support PS3, X360 neither WiiU!
The same with Luminous Engine!
Prepare to crash and burn your hopes!
Let's see who will laugh at the end! hahahaha

Well first, no one called you stupid (in those quotes, at least).
Second, you're making some pretty bold statements for things we don't know too much about. Very bold, actually. Actually, I'm not sure "bold" is the right word to use there...

 

[TripleSMoon]

VMM, now you're just being arrogant. You're preemptively bashing the Wii U for supposedly not having Unreal 4 (something you treat as a fact, despite it being based on a flimsy old rumor). Then when we post ACTUAL sources that flat out say "unreal 4 will be on EVERYTHING from mobile phones to high-end PCs" (hint, that's another way of saying "from weakest to strongest"), you dismiss it for some illogical reason and say that Unreal 4 will for-sure NOT be on Wii U, refuse to provide us any source of that WHATSOEVER, and laugh at us like some buffoon with a misplaced sense of superiority. Really, guy? I would stop before you make yourself look worse.

 

[FireGrey]

neither WiiU!

Oh, I'm sorry, you must have miss my post. Let's try again.

Can you at least provide non-subjective evidence for that claim?


Plus, that last part really do seem like trolling.

Look at this.
Link

The reason I didn't include ps3/360 because their consoles are most likely coming out next year.

You really don't know what they said, do you?
They said that it will run in mobile devices, and on high-end pcs!
But they already said it won't run at WiiU, they have the last WiiU prototype, wich is almost the definetly version, and it can't support WiiU!
Then DSOGaming proposed that if it run on iphone, it could run on WiiU and the last gen, but that's not gonna happen, there is a huge difference between UE4 and it's mobile version!
You wanna a source, that's not my problem, if you don't believe me just wait and see it with your own eyes!

They didn't say that it will run on the Wii U.
By someone not saying something how can you be sure that it's not going to happen?
That's some pretty messed up logic there.
Oh and any "source" that claims it can't run on the Wii U are lying.

 

[TripleSMoon]

plus it just wouldn't make any sense to not run on the Wii U. i mean, it'll run on low-end phones, next-gen PlayStation and Xbox, and pc, but somehow arbitrarily won't run on the Wii U? i fail to see the logic in that conclusion.

 

[KingVamp]

plus it just wouldn't make any sense to not run on the Wii U. i mean, it'll run on low-end phones, next-gen PlayStation and Xbox, and pc, but somehow arbitrarily won't run on the Wii U? i fail to see the logic in that conclusion.

That is another point, even by his logic, "mobile devices and on high-end pc". Last time I check, no consoles beat or even match any high-end pcs.
So, by his logic,the ps4/720 isn't going to have it either.

Even if it didn't run it, it not automatically the end of the wii u. Like seriously.

 

[VMM]

Well first, no one called you stupid (in those quotes, at least).
Second, you're making some pretty bold statements for things we don't know too much about. Very bold, actually. Actually, I'm not sure "bold" is the right word to use there...

Well, soulx said pretty clear, and a lot of people were making fun of me, so I guess you understand now!

We still don't know what the Wii U is capable of, recently Iwata mentioned that at E3 developers were only halfway with what they could have achieved looks wise. He already has confirmed that they are competing against next gen hardware, not current.

UE4 is just that, an engine, there are so many factors that can be changed, considering the lower gap between the next gen consoles only minor changes needs to be done.
Changing around textures, particles, polygons etc is enough to get it running even on the PS3.
UE4 is at the moment mostly focused on PC, next gen hardware will never reach PC levels despite what people think, still UE4 will undoubtedly be running on next gen.
There will be $300 to $400 dollar machines next gen, with that they won't even come close to what an average gaming PC can achieve.

I goofed and gave the wrong link.

We have three big goals:

• First, to define the next generation of graphics capabilities that are achievable with DirectX 11 PC’s and future consoles.
• Second, to deliver a toolset with an unprecedented mixture of power, ease-of-use, and polish.
• And finally, to scale the technology and its feature set up and down the spectrum of future computing devices, including iOS and Android, and mainstream PC.

Source

You said they won't run on the wii u, you don't want to give me a source? Ok.


Edit: To make it easier to find.

VMM, now you're just being arrogant. You're preemptively bashing the Wii U for supposedly not having Unreal 4 (something you treat as a fact, despite it being based on a flimsy old rumor). Then when we post ACTUAL sources that flat out say "unreal 4 will be on EVERYTHING from mobile phones to high-end PCs" (hint, that's another way of saying "from weakest to strongest"), you dismiss it for some illogical reason and say that Unreal 4 will for-sure NOT be on Wii U, refuse to provide us any source of that WHATSOEVER, and laugh at us like some buffoon with a misplaced sense of superiority. Really, guy? I would stop before you make yourself look worse.

plus it just wouldn't make any sense to not run on the Wii U. i mean, it'll run on low-end phones, next-gen PlayStation and Xbox, and pc, but somehow arbitrarily won't run on the Wii U? i fail to see the logic in that conclusion.

plus it just wouldn't make any sense to not run on the Wii U. i mean, it'll run on low-end phones, next-gen PlayStation and Xbox, and pc, but somehow arbitrarily won't run on the Wii U? i fail to see the logic in that conclusion.

That is another point, even by his logic, "mobile devices and on high-end pc". Last time I check, no consoles beat or even match any high-end pcs.
So, by his logic,the ps4/720 isn't going to have it either.

Even if it didn't run it, it not automatically the end of the wii u. Like seriously.

I'm sorry if I looked arrogant, but the truth is:
I saw some things, that I'm not authorized to tell, but that make pretty clear it won't work on WiiU!
For PS4 and new Xbox, I don't know, I don't have that info!
But I already said too much, so let's pretend this conversation never happened!

 

[DiscostewSM]

I'm sorry if I looked arrogant, but the truth is:
I saw some things, that I'm not authorized to tell, but that make pretty clear it won't work on WiiU!
For PS4 and new Xbox, I don't know, I don't have that info!
But I already said too much, so let's pretend this conversation never happened!

After what's gone on in this thread, I doubt anyone will believe that you have such "classified" information.

 

[VMM]

I'm sorry if I looked arrogant, but the truth is:
I saw some things, that I'm not authorized to tell, but that make pretty clear it won't work on WiiU!
For PS4 and new Xbox, I don't know, I don't have that info!
But I already said too much, so let's pretend this conversation never happened!

After what's gone on in this thread, I doubt anyone will believe that you have such "classified" information.

I recognize I overreacted, and I said somethings that probably made me look arrogant!
I'm sorry about that, but some people here really let me pissed off, even some that I kind of liked them.

But back to the business, let's wait until the time proves what I can't!
If you don't believe me, ok, I don't blame you, or anyone who doesn't!

 

[TripleSMoon]

*Sigh* You don't have classified information. If you did, you would have said so before.

 

[VMM]

*Sigh* You don't have classified information. If you did, you would have said so before.

Just wait, my friend!
When WiiU get released you will know the truth!
For now believe in what you want!

 

[chartube12]

I'm gonna end this argument right now. Epic's interview with game informer revealed the unreal 4 is the most customizable and user friendly version to date. Incompatible features can be turned off with just 3 clicks of the mouse. Even if the Wii-U can't use all of the full version of unreal 4's features, it could still run it by turning off the incompatible features.