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'Wake up! We are at war with china right now, we just don't realise it.'
'We are getting ready to be humiliated in a way we haven't been humiliated ever and this is going to be worse than pearl habor, if we choose to escalate.'
'This is the dumbest thing we have done in a long long long time. (Sending Pelosi)'
'My biggest fear was nuclear war before this year ended. This is playing out right now.'


-Scott Ritter


I guess this and the fake al-Zawahiri assassination are supposed to distract from the humiliating and definitive loss in Ukraine?

I for one am pro-Chinese and look forward to them controlling the world. They'll do a better job than the current group.
Doesn't make sense, why if you are loosing a conflict start another with a bigger enemy to cover up the loss? They will look even worse down the road by alot.

Unfortunatly it seems like many other candidates would be better than the current group.
It didn't make sense to go from small time Middle East conflicts they could never finish to taking on Russia either. Looking at the end result, maybe the goal is self sabotage and impoverishment of the Western world. That or they're just stupid.
 
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'Wake up! We are at war with china right now, we just don't realise it.'

'We are getting ready to be humiliated in a way we haven't been humiliated ever and this is going to be worse than pearl habor, if we choose to escalate.'

'This is the dumbest thing we have done in a long long long time. (Sending Pelosi)'

'My biggest fear was nuclear war before this year ended. This is playing out right now.'

-Scott Ritter

I'm pretty sure we were warned that the CCP were going to invade Taiwan, but apparently 81 million people didn't listen. But no more mean tweets and the adults are back in charge restoring our precious norms.
 
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According to the Chinese "movements" on Taiwan - Chances are not bad for another World War....
man, is so much dumbness, ego and irresponsibility every fucking where on every fucking side...

Why the hell you taunt a nuclear power and why the hell the taunted nuclear power do taunt back. What do they want? Be the the number one on a wasted world?
 
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man, is so much dumbness, ego and irresponsibility every fucking where on every fucking side...

Why the hell you taunt a nuclear power and why the hell the taunted nuclear power do taunt back. What do they want? Be the the number one on a wasted world?
They prefer to rule in hell rather than to be a regular in heaven.
 
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The most glaring issue with WWIII is that, unlike WWII, this time the fascists (Russia) and the communists (China) are gonna be allies, as they were initially in WWII until Hitler fucked up and attacked Russia, and thank God he did, we would have had a huge problem if we had to take on the nazis and the commies at the same time.

Seems like we're not gonna be so lucky this time around. Hopefully we get to bury these nasty ideologies once and for all.
 

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Mainland China could give tens of millions of men a handgun and let them swim to Taiwan on canoes. It would barely affect their demographics if most of them died capturing Taiwan (because of the excess of men due to the one-child policy and abortion of females).
An insane idea (they would rather bomb it into submission) but I just want to point out that women are the bottleneck in demographics.
 
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I just hope the psychopathic merchant class will stop preying on the peoples of this world.
I guess you mean mercantilism? In which case, that's the basic economic principles of fascism, so yeah like I said, hopefully we get to bury these ideologies for good this time.
 

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The most glaring issue with WWIII is that, unlike WWII, this time the fascists (Russia) and the communists (China) are gonna be allies, as they were initially in WWII until Hitler fucked up and attacked Russia, and thank God he did, we would have had a huge problem if we had to take on the nazis and the commies at the same time.

Seems like we're not gonna be so lucky this time around. Hopefully we get to bury these nasty ideologies once and for all.
Russians and Chinese bled the most by far in WW2. They will make sure it does not happen again. Compared to the West, Russia and China don´t even have ideologies today. What an insane idea to be alligned with other nations because they have a the method of choosing leaders. What if China and Russia copied the exact political system of the US? Would they become less of a threat to US dominance in the world? That´s the actual issue. They are the enemy because they don´t want to be vassels of the US. When Western media speaks of Ukraine defending Western values, they actually mean the enmity against Russia. Politically, Russia and Ukraine are almost the same. Imagine if Alaska decided to call itself communist. Would China feel the need to send arms and politicians there to defend their "freedom"? No. Only the West thinks like this. China does feel the need to be friendly with Pakistan in order to contain India. But it has nothing to do with ideology. It´s astonishing how millions of Westerners still think like elementary children.
 

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'Will Biden Stumble into a New World War?

The behavior of policy-makers in D.C. today is eerily similar to that of British leaders at the onset of the First World War.

[...]

When it comes to defense and foreign policy, there are very few stone-cold realists in Washington’s policy-making circles. Since 1945, with a few notable exceptions, most American presidents have tended to put short-term political celebrity or ephemeral liberal causes ahead of tangible, concrete national interests in America’s relations with other nation-states. Biden is no exception to the rule.

Guided more by impulse and emotion than reason or knowledge of the facts, President Biden, like most of Washington’s ruling political class, may be privately pleased with Speaker Pelosi’s visit to Taipei. When Speaker Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan is viewed in the context of Biden's self-evidently thoughtless remark, however, it is clear that the combination is having a negative impact across Asia.

Japan's top government spokesman, Hiroakazu Matsono, expressed a view that is widely shared across Asia when he said, “Peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait is important not only for the security of Japan but also the world.”

[...]

Beijing expects that the immediate threat to China will come from the U.S. Navy’s Pacific Fleet and America’s Air Force. Consequently, Beijing invested heavily over the last two decades in the combination of layered air defenses and a vast arsenal of ground-based tactical and intermediate range surface-to-surface precision-guided missiles, rockets, and loitering munitions linked to persistent space and terrestrial-based intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR-Strike) platforms.

In a confrontation over Taiwan, the U.S. Navy’s surface fleet would have to operate far from China’s coastline to avoid the PLA’s missile strikes, severely limiting the surface fleet’s ability to influence events ashore inside China. Washington could still blockade China’s Pacific Coast, but to do so, it would have to rely primarily on its nuclear-powered attack submarines in deep water.

But a blockade would not nullify China’s principal strategic advantage. The depth of its continental position with a friendly, resource-rich Russia to the north suggests that a blockade is unlikely to succeed. Based on the expenditure rates oft munitions and precision-guided weapon systems of all kinds in Ukraine, current U.S. inventories of precision-guided missiles and munitions would be exhausted quickly. Unrealistic thinking about the demands of modern warfare combined with a false sense of moral superiority irreparably harmed the British Empire, and eventually reduced Great Britain to the status of a second-rate power. The question for Americans is whether the leadership in Washington, D.C. is not unlike a brontosaurus with a body that’s 50 yards long and a brain the size of a pin. With each passing day, it becomes more critical for Americans with common sense to replace the pin-brains running the show inside the beltway before they march Americans down the ruinous path the British took in 1914.'

-Douglas Macgregor

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/will-biden-stumble-into-a-new-world-war/
 

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'Will Biden Stumble into a New World War?

The behavior of policy-makers in D.C. today is eerily similar to that of British leaders at the onset of the First World War.

[...]

When it comes to defense and foreign policy, there are very few stone-cold realists in Washington’s policy-making circles. Since 1945, with a few notable exceptions, most American presidents have tended to put short-term political celebrity or ephemeral liberal causes ahead of tangible, concrete national interests in America’s relations with other nation-states. Biden is no exception to the rule.

Guided more by impulse and emotion than reason or knowledge of the facts, President Biden, like most of Washington’s ruling political class, may be privately pleased with Speaker Pelosi’s visit to Taipei. When Speaker Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan is viewed in the context of Biden's self-evidently thoughtless remark, however, it is clear that the combination is having a negative impact across Asia.

Japan's top government spokesman, Hiroakazu Matsono, expressed a view that is widely shared across Asia when he said, “Peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait is important not only for the security of Japan but also the world.”

[...]

Beijing expects that the immediate threat to China will come from the U.S. Navy’s Pacific Fleet and America’s Air Force. Consequently, Beijing invested heavily over the last two decades in the combination of layered air defenses and a vast arsenal of ground-based tactical and intermediate range surface-to-surface precision-guided missiles, rockets, and loitering munitions linked to persistent space and terrestrial-based intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR-Strike) platforms.

In a confrontation over Taiwan, the U.S. Navy’s surface fleet would have to operate far from China’s coastline to avoid the PLA’s missile strikes, severely limiting the surface fleet’s ability to influence events ashore inside China. Washington could still blockade China’s Pacific Coast, but to do so, it would have to rely primarily on its nuclear-powered attack submarines in deep water.

But a blockade would not nullify China’s principal strategic advantage. The depth of its continental position with a friendly, resource-rich Russia to the north suggests that a blockade is unlikely to succeed. Based on the expenditure rates oft munitions and precision-guided weapon systems of all kinds in Ukraine, current U.S. inventories of precision-guided missiles and munitions would be exhausted quickly. Unrealistic thinking about the demands of modern warfare combined with a false sense of moral superiority irreparably harmed the British Empire, and eventually reduced Great Britain to the status of a second-rate power. The question for Americans is whether the leadership in Washington, D.C. is not unlike a brontosaurus with a body that’s 50 yards long and a brain the size of a pin. With each passing day, it becomes more critical for Americans with common sense to replace the pin-brains running the show inside the beltway before they march Americans down the ruinous path the British took in 1914.'

-Douglas Macgregor

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/will-biden-stumble-into-a-new-world-war/
This text assumes that USA will honor their alliance with Taiwan. Looking on what happened in Afghanistan, USA kinda don't care about their allies when their wars are not profitable.
 

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i dont care about world war 3.

its all about what type of sticks and stones we going to fight world war 4 with.
 

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