Windows 7 Support End-of-Life (Also, Why I'd Prefer Upgrading to 8.1 Over 10)

This is what people will see when going to Microsoft's website up until the deadline shown. It is expected by most Windows users that Microsoft would no longer support Windows versions that become 10 years old and older, but it's damaging to Microsoft when they kill support for a platform that was still going strong and expect people to upgrade. Even worse when there aren't better alternatives.

Windows XP End of Life

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The message that was sent to users shortly before the end of support.

Go back to 2014. After 12 years of support due to there being so many people who loved using Windows XP, and perhaps arguably Microsoft's best version of Windows to date, Microsoft announced that support for all editions of Windows XP would end. They also used imagery of an old computer system running Windows XP versus a new system running the latest Windows at the time, Windows 8.1. Ridiculous, to say the least, as there were newer systems which could efficiently run Windows XP 64-bit. Yet, despite the security risks of a dead system, according to StatCounter a surprising 1.54% of people still use Windows XP. It may not sound like much, but considering that there are approximately 7 billion people on the planet, roughly 100 million still use Windows XP. Now, this estimate can very much be inaccurate, since not everyone owns a computer, but it could still be a fairly high amount considering that this is a statistic basing on how many computers have Windows XP, not exactly how many people use it, since more than one person can use a desktop or laptop. I wouldn't be surprised if I were to discover that 50 million still use XP.

Windows 7 End of Life

January of next year, all Windows 7 versions will no longer be supported (save those that are protected by volume licensing, in which it is extended until January 10th, 2023). What will this mean for Windows 7 users? Of all the currently supported Windows version, Windows 7 is the best, beating Windows 8.1 in the market share by over 25% globally according to StatCounter. Microsoft is now pushing messages on systems still running Windows 7, prompting users to upgrade to Windows 10.

Why I Do Not Recommend Windows 10

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Windows 10 integrates several new features, including Cortana, which collects user data automatically.

There are those who are gonna scoff, but it's actually been proven over and over. Microsoft is collecting your data. Even as recently as August of this year, because of the GDPR Microsoft is consistently being investigated about their data collection. The best way that they are doing it nowadays is with Windows 10, which has various diagnostic and info-collecting services on by default. Even after turning these features off, some personal information can still be collected by Microsoft. There is a way to remove built-in software manually, but it becomes reset after every major update.

Is Windows 8.1 Safer Than Windows 10?

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Due to there being many gripes about lack of desktop integration in Windows 8, Microsoft released Windows 8.1, which can be either seen as a mere upgrade or a separate version altogether.

Let's be honest here - unless Microsoft has stopped using it altogether, there really isn't such a thing as a "safe" version of Windows. However, many of these things which can be potential privacy breaches are built into Windows 10 by default. Windows 8.1 lacks several features (like Cortana) which collects and stores information remotely that has to be manually deleted or retrieved, so unless you add them to Windows 8.1 (via Windows Update or their own website), then yes it is somewhat better, in regards to privacy and security from the very developers of it. One thing's for sure: it's a heck of a lot better than Windows 8! :P
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we were not arguing, at-least i thought. I was just chit chatting. Kinda in chit-chat mood. sorry if i offended anyone or scared anyone off.
 
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Believe me, I wanted to keep Windows 7, it was stable until something in the process that runs standby/screensaver got corrupted, never did figure it out. I never regretted updating to 10, however
 
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I hear ya. My dad recently sent me a pic shows his windows 7 laptop is missing the hal.dll and wont boot. i had to look that one up. dont know how it just gets deleted... In your case it was a good discussion to upgrade. Your existing 7 failed. Initially i used to remove 10/8 for people who wanted 7 on a new machine. Now to much time has passed and there are driver issues for 7 on 2019 machines.
 
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Using an unsupported OS like XP is really a terrible idea. There are no more security updates, so your machine will be a target for the worst kinds of malware. XP may suffice for a retro gaming machine, but connecting that machine to the internet is a bad idea.

You’d genuinely be better using Linux and running XP applications through Wine or Proton. Best of both worlds.
 
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@sj33 Use an antivirus software, or perhaps several. There are some that still work for Windows XP, and can protect from "the worst kinds of malware" despite lack of support from Microsoft.


You guys might also be interested in this post on Bleeping Computer.
 
Honestly if privacy is a concern, just use a Linux distro and never connect to the internet, it's as simple as that. No matter what you do, no matter how many VPNs and alternative services you use at once, there's always going to be some sort of trace back to you when you do something online. It's the harsh reality of the internet.
 
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@Captain_N and @the_randomizer: I get your argument, but in the end, Microsoft has been pretty clear about how they feel about Windows at this point:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/30/17179328/microsoft-windows-reorganization-future-2018

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/29/...e-modern-operating-system-computex-2019-hints

I know, it's The Verge, as in, the same outlet that couldn't put a PC together even if its life depended on it. Still, I think Valve was onto something with supporting Proton. The main obstacle, for some people like yours truly, is the time it takes to transfer from one OS to another, learn how to work everything in it, and not to mention, having to re-download and install everything without even being able to test what games work and what doesn't before doing a full commit in my experience when trying Debian out after hearing about Ubuntu trying to kill off 32-bit program support, which would have included Valve if it wasn't for the backlash they received for attempting such a move.
 
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I don't necessarily hate Windows 10, as much as the things that it does worry me. I use Windows 10 on my main gaming desktop for obvious reasons, while Manjaro Linux is used on my laptop which only gets used for light and legacy gaming.

But it is generally healthy to have more than one option for operating systems rather than being at the whim of whatever Microsoft decide to do with Windows. There will come a point where using legacy versions of Windows is no longer realistic in the same way that anything prior to XP just isn't realistic anymore. If e.g. Manjaro decide to start doing things with their OS that I disagree with, i can just switch to another distro. No big deal. If Microsoft start doing things with Windows which we disagree with, tough luck basically. That is the key difference.

Without trying to wave the Linux flag too much, we're at the point where more mainstream distributions like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Manjaro, MX Linux etc. are extremely accessible for anybody making the jump from Windows. Proton has helped closed the gap in terms of gaming massively. Still not quite enough to be the primary OS on a gaming machine, but enough so that people who only do occasional gaming (which let's be fair, will be anybody still using XP) can do so.
 
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I don't mind Windows 10, it's literally been the most stable OS I've ever used ever since Windows XP, and that's saying a lot. YMMV, I get that, but I've had zero issues with programs in the time I've used it. I think it helps that I got an upgrade for free from Win 7, but still, to each their own *shrug*
 
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I have a laptop that had windows 8.1 on it and i fucking hated it so much, it froze so much, it literally froze every single time i went to the start menu, I switched to linux on that laptop and i had a much better exprience
 
Who installs vanilla Windows? You can gut most (if not all) of the features you're concerned about, or block them, and Windows 10 is leaps and bounds ahead of 8.1 and even 7 in terms of stability, OS footprint and performance. There's no legitimate reason to not install it over 8.1 which is a poorly cobbled together mess that only exists to fix 8.
 
Just install Win10, disable the features you're concerned about, set up rules on your network to prevent any unexpected calls back home you don't want, enable God Mode and you're done. Runs like a treat.
 

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