I should get windows 11 when it comes out

Seriel · Jul 4, 2021

I know you didn't say it but can I just say, people thinking Secure Boot is required to be enabled is such an annoying piece of misinformation I keep seeing. It only is required to be supported/present not just enabled. Drives me up the wall.

Windows 11 and Debian Sid sounds like something I would do, you certainly have my blessing there.

Hambrew · Jul 4, 2021

people thinking Secure Boot is required to be enabled

noted.

Seriel · Jul 4, 2021

Your partial quote makes me wonder if my point was clear enough that its not required, hahah

cearp · Jul 5, 2021

In my laptops's bios, I can lock the uefi boot order, so windows can't/won't adjust it which is very useful.
Possibly your computer can do the same?
I've set up debian with secure boot before, it is definitely supported!
What makes you want to update to windows 11, if you're using something like debian?

Question rephrased: you obviously know there are alternatives to windows since you're using debian, so why care about the latest windows? I'm assuming you only use windows for stuff that won't really work on your linux system.

linuxares · Jul 5, 2021

You know that "Shim" already supports this and multiple distros already use shim?

linuxares · Jul 5, 2021

https://github.com/rhboot/shim - more info about Shim

Chris_Dai_Gyakuten_Saiban · Jul 5, 2021

I would just say this: wait and then see overall how good/stable Windows 11 is and then from that point, you can chose to dualboot Windows+Debian or just use Debian only. Hope this helps.

GothicIII · Jul 5, 2021

In the future if I want to use windows 11 I boot debian, run kvm/libvirt and then boot windows 11 within a vm because my hardware does not 'support' windows 11 :/

Jayro · Jul 5, 2021

You should at least try Windows 11 using the free evaluation. The whole TMP 2.0 thing is already an easy fix to avoid, so that's a non-issue... At least for people like me with common sense. And I've already made Windows 11 installs without any Secure Boot bullshit too, so that's another "issue" that's really a non-issue. So it's just another Windows 10, hopefully it won't bring the crapware and spying telemetry again this time... But we'll have to wait and see when the RTM drops.

GothicIII · Jul 5, 2021

You need at least a intel 8th/amd zen 2 gen CPU to be able to use win11. This will lock out a majority of all pcs to be able to use win11. This limitation will be implemented with RTM. This does not apply if you use a VM.

Hambrew · Jul 5, 2021

@GothicIII I only have one GPU, and configuring Linux and KVM to share the same GPU is a hassle I'd rather not bother with... :wacko:

Slluxx · Jul 6, 2021

I am using Windows 11 on my MacBook Pro via Bootcamp :harold:

Julie_Pilgrim · Jul 6, 2021

btw i use arch(gonna switch to gentoo tho)

Lacius · Jul 6, 2021

@Jayro We don't know if TPM, etc. will continue to be bypassable after RTM, and even if it is, there could be unforeseen consequences in bypassing these system requirements after RTM. For example, the computer might not be able to automatically install big feature updates that will occur once per year on Windows 11, eventually stranding the system without security updates unless the feature update is manually installed. There could be other glitches associated with bypassing these system requirements. We just don't know yet.

Bladexdsl · Jul 6, 2021

if you want to turn your pc into an ipad than go ahead

Captain_N · Jul 7, 2021

Um you can already get windows 11. I got it running in a virtual box virtual machine on a amd phenom 2 x6 cpu. The gui is better but the start menu is ass. Plenty of links on reddit on how to get a copy of windows 11.

Jayro · Jul 7, 2021

I, for one, like the new start menu. It's very well done, as long as you move it back to the left side where it's always been since 1995.

Julie_Pilgrim · Feb 16, 2022

Julie_Pilgrim said:
btw i use arch(gonna switch to gentoo tho)

update: i use gentoo now!
( im better than you)

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