Sealed copy of Pokemon Yellow graded A+ allegedly destroyed by US Customs

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Stephen Kick, who runs under the username of @pripyatbeast, posted on Twitter an image of a received package after being handled by customs. The package was supposed to be an encased sealed copy of Pokemon Yellow, graded A+ with a score of 9.2 by Wata Games with an alleged worth of around $3'800 dollars, but instead, the owner got a broken acrylic case, with a mangled seal and sliced box of Pokemon Yellow.

The highest rated Pokemon Yellow game is also an A+, but with a score of 9.4, which is currently going up for around $10'500 dollars in price.
While the morality and legality of sealed copies of widely available games as Pokemon Yellow is highly questionable and up for debate, and regardless of its alleged worth, it's always heartbreaking to see something you ordering getting destroyed in shipping or customs.

 

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No sympathy for the astroturfing of old games.
And that's not JUST the new Analogue Pocket owner in me talking. Shiz like Wata only makes the necessity for emulators & flashcarts even MORE apparent.

Like come on. This is a best-seller, like Smash Melee. This is not worth multiple grands.
 
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An alleged owner of an also alleged A+ graded Pokemon Yellow and all Pokemon in existence appearing (out of nowhere) to sell them in 3... 2... 1...

This is crap news, just like the alleged sealed grade(whatever) Super Mario 64 sold by a supposedly stupid amount of money, while the alleged owner also manages an auction brand. No s#!t.
 
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An alleged owner of an also alleged A+ graded Pokemon Yellow and all Pokemon in existence appearing (out of nowhere) to sell them in 3... 2... 1...
Well I do believe that if a sealed copy is worth up to ten grand, my copy of Pokemon Yellow without the packaging and in very good working condition should at least fetch me $1000. Right? ...Right?
 

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Well I do believe that if a sealed copy is worth up to ten grand, my copy of Pokemon Yellow without the packaging and in very good working condition should at least fetch me $1000. Right? ...Right?
It’s almost as if the price point was arbitrary and propped up by speculation as opposed to any inherent form of value. Now, I don’t have anything against the market deciding how much something’s worth - things are worth exactly what people are willing to pay for them. Problems arise when unscrupulous and self-professed “experts” sell the same item to each other back and forth to artificially inflate its value by simulating market activity that’s completely false and fraudulent… but that would never happen in the game grading business, surely.

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It’s almost as if the price point was arbitrary and propped up by speculation as opposed to any inherent form of value. Now, I don’t have anything against the market deciding how much something’s worth - things are worth exactly what people are willing to pay for them. Problems arise when unscrupulous and self-professed “experts” sell the same item to each other back and forth to artificially inflate its value by simulating market activity that’s completely false and fraudulent… but that would never happen in the game grading business, surely.

:)
I can't honestly complain being that I basically finished my retro collection before the pandemic hit, and the flood of new collectors since then has driven up the base price of almost all my games by two to three times what I bought them for. I didn't buy them as an "investment" either though, they're just the games I enjoy and value most personally. I'd be pleasantly surprised if any of them become rare enough to sell for a thousand plus before I kick the bucket, but I guess Valkyrie Profile is about a fifth of the way there already.
 
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I can't honestly complain being that I basically finished my retro collection before the pandemic hit, and the flood of new collectors since then has driven up the base price of almost all my games by two to three times what I bought them for. I didn't buy them as an "investment" either though, they're just the games I enjoy and value most personally. I'd be pleasantly surprised if any of them become rare enough to sell for a thousand plus before I kick the bucket, but I guess Valkyrie Profile is about a fifth of the way there already.
The only thing that bothers me about the current collector market is that the notion of a flea market bargain went down the toilet - everybody and their dog drag out hardware in very poor condition from their attics/basements and think they hit a gold vein when realistically they have something worth $20 because it’ll take another $100 in parts/labour to recondition. My collection doesn’t have an end point and it’s always growing, but it’s contingent on finding a good deal. Thankfully I’m lucky enough to have many gamer friends who often offload their hardware to me not because they’re after a quick buck, but because with me it’s “going to a good home” - they know it’ll get the TLC it deserves.
 
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The only thing that bothers me about the current collector market is that the notion of a flea market bargain went down the toilet - everybody and their dog drag out hardware in very poor condition from their attics/basements and think they hit a gold vein when realistically they have something worth $20 because it’ll take another $100 in parts/labour to recondition. My collection doesn’t have an end point and it’s always growing, but it’s contingent on finding a good deal. Thankfully I’m lucky enough to have many gamer friends who often offload their hardware to me not because they’re after a quick buck, but because with me it’s “going to a good home” - they know it’ll get the TLC it deserves.
Lucky you, all my gamer friends are also collectors, so they don't give me jack shit. :lol:
 

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Lucky you, all my gamer friends are also collectors, so they don't give me jack shit. :lol:
One hand washes the other in many cases. You’d be surprised by what you can come across when you’re good with a soldering iron and willing to work. They know that if any of their stuff starts misbehaving, I’ll have a look free of charge. On the flip side, if they have a little something-something they’re trying to get rid of… first dibs. 😉
 
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The mention of Wata Games makes all my "fake news" alarms go off, but at least this one seems to be more realistically priced than some of the games they've graded.

This could be faked, I really can't say. This is just the risk you take with shipping valuables in the mail, I hope and assume that the package was insured. Actually, this could very well be insurance fraud, they could've destroyed it on purpose to get the estimated value reimbursed rather than have to test the estimated value in the market. Maybe they didn't think they would actually get that much for it. If it is legit, then it doesn't seem like it could've been an accident, this looks like it was done maliciously. Not the kind of damage you get from a package being roughly handled or dropped. That makes me a bit suspicious of it being real, what do employees of the postal service and customs have to gain from opening random packages and destroying the contents? It's not a common occurrence.

I wonder, was this shipped through the eBay Global Shipping Program by any chance? The damage is consistent with the damage Pitney Bowes often inflicts. They'll just slice stuff open haphazardly with zero regard for the value of the box or the integrity of its contents. I myself had a Steam Controller that went through eBay Global Shipping and arrived with a damaged, sliced box. Amazon uses Pitney Bowes a lot too, but I haven't experienced any similar damage with them.
 
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In all fairness, the entire grading system is a scam. There is no additional value in having a sealed copy of anything. In fact, in the case of many products it is *detrimental* from a preservationist standpoint (built-in batteries, capacitor plague-era products, suicide PCB’s and so on).
A good example of this is robots, like Sphero's Droids, for example BB-8. That battery will only live for so long, and that shell? Well.. better get the dremel.
 
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A good example of this is robots, like Sphero's Droids, for example BB-8. That battery will only live for so long, and that shell? Well.. better get the dremel.
Honestly this applies to anything with a li-ion or li-po cell. Once they go below the safe voltage threshold (which on most cells is 2.6V) they begin off-gassing, growing dendrites and puffing up. It’s a plague with old PSP’s, I noticed - those batteries turn into balloons and tear the lids clean off. Thankfully without any charge stored left they don’t pose a fire hazard, but it’s hard to justify calling a product that committed seppuku “mint”. Realistically those things need to be charged every 6 months or so to remain in peak condition.

EDIT: A yummy example, courtesy of the Interwebs. Needless to say, you’d be wise to avoid this.

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Part of me feels like this was staged by the Twitter poster. Wata is big in the news for better or worse and what better way to gain *checks the post* 429.4K views on a tweet by saying that customs destroyed a Wata graded game. The only reason why I say i feel its staged is because I've ordered complete in box copies of pokemon games from japan off ebay and they arrived completely undamaged so what makes this special aside from the Wata box?
 

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Aside the whole Wata spiel and how they are the creators of pure evil and grading video games making them in turn increase the value of them, it's really unfair to see people say "HE DESERVED IT FOR BUYING STUFF FROM WATA" because what you see online is what you pay for. As seen in the listing (that was up if this is real), this man paid for a sealed, graded copy of Pokémon Yellow, not a beaten up box that has its front cover ripped off. You can fault Wata for their actions to video games, but the fault lies by whoever at customs tore the box open, and not the innocent customer who just bought what he saw online.

If you got a sealed and boxed Sega Genesis from eBay from a random listing and got it shipped to your house with the seal broken and the box having been jumped on three times, you'd be fucking pissed too.
 
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Some buy it as an investment. I'd rather just keep the money or invest in a savings account-type instead than go through this and if I have to move, I don't have to worry about packing it all up.

The most "retro" thing I've bought recently were GameCube controllers and that's it. I love the GCN controllers so I'll get to use them.
I understand the allure behind it, but it would be difficult for me to invest in a liability such as physical video games carts/disks when they already have a shelf life and will eventually become defective at some point due to 'wear and tear' or 'old age'. I just prefer to download ROMs to add to 'my digital collection' (lol) while having a good time playing them.

Please don't get me started on GameCube controllers, smh. I'm kind of ashamed to say it, but I used to own a/b 9x GameCube controllers which I bought w/in the past 3 years before 2x of them which were off-brand versions went bad, and 3x other official ones I gave away to my nephews after modding a Wii to give to them as a gift which I included w/ it.

I actually invest in real estate for a living where there's a ROI and my asset which is real property appreciates in value with time and tracks w/ inflation and best part a/b it is I can hold it and rent it out, or get a HELOC against the equity and use it to purchase more property, or make a substantial profit by selling it w/o much downside since it's already insured against any potential property damage.
 
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People on this website need to chill out, honestly I restrain myself to even comment most of the time, but it's incredible how biased people are over there, some of you guys always take the worst take possible it's unreal. He do what he want with his money and he doesn't deserve to see the product he paid for destroyed by anyone only because "it's a dumb purchase". Grow up.
 
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People on this website need to chill out, honestly I restrain myself to even comment most of the time, but it's incredible how biased people are over there, some of you guys always take the worst take possible it's unreal. He do what he want with his money and he doesn't deserve to see the product he paid for destroyed by anyone only because "it's a dumb purchase". Grow up.
i mean it is pretty funny.
 

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