[UPDATE] Dolphin's release on Steam indefinitely delayed after Nintendo sends cease & desist order to Valve

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[UPDATE] The entry on the Dolphin blog has been changed slightly to more accurately reflect the situation. While their original post yesterday said Valve had received a DMCA takedown notice from Nintendo, the revision now claims it is a cease & desist order citing the Anti-Circumvention provisions in the DMCA.

Pierre Bourdon, a former member of the Dolphin team, has claimed on Mastodon that the order originated with Valve. He reports that Valve reached out to Nintendo regarding Dolphin, and Nintendo issued the C&D in response. If this is the case, it would impact Dolphin's available options for recourse as Valve retains the right to remove listings from their storefront. It also means, however, that Nintendo is not pursuing legal action against the Dolphin team right now.



[ORIGINAL STORY] Back in March, the team behind the Dolphin GameCube/Wii emulator announced that they would be bringing Dolphin to Steam sometime in the second quarter of 2023. However, the release seems to be indefinitely delayed after Valve received a DMCA notice from Nintendo. Posting on their blog today, the team announced that Steam had contacted them to let them know of the takedown notice and that the page will be down "until the matter is settled." The team is currently investigating their options and promise a more in-depth update as soon as possible.

PC Gamer claims to have reviewed the document, dated today, May 26. It reads, in part:

Because the Dolphin emulator violates Nintendo’s intellectual property rights, including but not limited to its rights under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)’s Anti-Circumvention and AntiTrafficking provisions, 17 U.S.C. § 1201, we provide this notice to you of your obligation to remove the offering of the Dolphin emulator from the Steam store.

The Dolphin emulator operates by incorporating these cryptographic keys without Nintendo’s authorization and decrypting the ROMs at or immediately before runtime. Thus, use of the Dolphin emulator unlawfully 'circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under' the Copyright Act.

Nintendo is attacking the Dolphin Emulator under the DMCA's Anti-Circumvention provisions, citing the inclusion of the Wii's common key in Dolphin's source code. Nintendo argues that because the common key allows Dolphin to decrypt data, it allows users to illegally circumvent measures put in place to control access to works protected under the Copyright Act - in this case, GameCube and Wii games.

Dolphin is somewhat unique in distributing this key already built in to its source code, as most emulators require the end user to provide a key or BIOS on their own. Emulator frontend RetroArch has also been added to Steam but, contrary to Dolphin, hasn't been the target of DMCA attacks by Nintendo, likely because its builds and cores require external BIOS and key files not found within their source code.

As of now, it appears as if this only affects Dolphin Emulator's upcoming release on Steam. It is still available to download on the official website.
 

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if they ever dropped mario galaxy 2 on switch i bet nintendo would do a limited release because fuck you we like to have our games to burn in the second hand market
 
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I doubt, every mainline 3D Super Mario game to date has been designed with the primary goal of taking advantage of a console's gimmick, the only reason Super Mario Galaxy 2 exists is because the developers wanted to expand on the original game in some sort of revision, but there were so many things that they decided it was worth a sequel. I don't believe this would happen again with Odyssey because it's been so long that they would have done something if they really wanted to expand on the first game in a way that would make a sequel worthwhile.
Bowser's Fury is the test bed for the next 3D mario game, so expect an open world mario game like Sonic Frontier.
 
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I doubt, every mainline 3D Super Mario game to date has been designed with the primary goal of taking advantage of a console's gimmick, the only reason Super Mario Galaxy 2 exists is because the developers wanted to expand on the original game in some sort of revision, but there were so many things that they decided it was worth a sequel. I don't believe this would happen again with Odyssey because it's been so long that they would have done something if they really wanted to expand on the first game in a way that would make a sequel worthwhile.
When i said it was part of the same series, i meant about the gameplay
As in that Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy +2 and Super Mario Odyssey are all part of the same series
 

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sorry, but what did they expect?
that emulators are now "accepted" by the hardware manufacturer and are welcomed into the steam "store" ?

They thought that the hardware manufacturer didn't have a say in the matter.


"ultimately stifles innovation". What they should say, if they are being honest, is that it stifles their profiting off of lazy ports and forces them to become innovative. Look how creative their DMCA game is becoming.
 
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sorry, but what did they expect?
that emulators are now "accepted" by the hardware manufacturer and are welcomed into the steam "store" ?
They are, retroarch is on steam.
It's just that Dolphin contains Nintendo's public Wii key in the sourcecode.
 

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They are, retroarch is on steam.
It's just that Dolphin contains Nintendo's public Wii key in the sourcecode.
You know that even without that key they wouldn't have filed a DMCA nonetheless. They probably don't even understand what RetroArch is, nor that it's up on Steam.
 

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A user providing their own NAND or key.bin files would move the circumvention of security to the end user rather than the emulator as the user would then be providing the emulator the means to do that.
It wouldn't, there is still code in the emulator to bypass DRM. It would still be covered by the DMCA.

I'm not sure what would happen if they only made it work with decrypted dumps. They might then go for contributory copyright infringement, which if they could argue that it's an organised crime group, then they could get an arrest warrant.

If you ever think "I have a great idea, I'll make this emulator for a competing platform available easily" then you're nuts.
 
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It wouldn't, there is still code in the emulator to bypass DRM. It would still be covered by the DMCA.
If you mean code to decrypt the game when a suitable encryption key is provided, then that code enforces, not bypasses, the DRM. That is, it only decrypts the game if you provide the suitable key, it does not bypass the mechanism... and also this code is an open standard and it is used everywhere, even old wireless home automation devices... but I guess an old smart lamp is breaking Wii's DRM...
 

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If you mean code to decrypt the game when a suitable encryption key is provided, then that code enforces, not bypasses, the DRM. That is, it only decrypts the game if you provide the suitable key, it does not bypass the mechanism... and also this code is an open standard and it is used everywhere, even old wireless home automation devices... but I guess an old smart lamp is breaking Wii's DRM...
So the DMCA covers all that. If the Wii uses the same algorithm as another device, then just the act of telling someone that breaks the DMCA.

It doesn't enforce the DRM either. Dolphin is not using Wii discs, on a Wii. Which is what the DRM is forcing you to do. Console DRM has been pretty well supported by the courts. You can't use a "but homebrew" defense, they know it's a lie.

Fighting DMCA in court would get very expensive as the entire game & movie industry will want to make sure you lose.

But it's still better than if they decide to slap you with contributory copyright infringement.

Meanwhile: "Ninty using Emulators emselves to emulate their own games for 60 bucks a pop"
As copyright holders, that is their legal right.
 
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It wouldn't, there is still code in the emulator to bypass DRM. It would still be covered by the DMCA.
There is not. The common key being provided is the problem. They're not bypassing DRM, they're providing the key that decrypts content rather than forcing the user to provide it.

If you mean code to decrypt the game when a suitable encryption key is provided, then that code enforces, not bypasses, the DRM. That is, it only decrypts the game if you provide the suitable key, it does not bypass the mechanism... and also this code is an open standard and it is used everywhere, even old wireless home automation devices... but I guess an old smart lamp is breaking Wii's DRM...
This is accurate. Again, requiring the user to provide their own key puts the onus on the user. Providing the key as the Dolphin Team has done is a huge mistake that opens the door to Nintendo having a valid argument to take further action against the emulator in the future, if they so choose.

It doesn't enforce the DRM either. Dolphin is not using Wii discs, on a Wii. Which is what the DRM is forcing you to do. Console DRM has been pretty well supported by the courts. You can't use a "but homebrew" defense, they know it's a lie.
The DRM doesn't care whether you're using Wii discs on a Wii, it's simple AES encryption/decryption. This is why DVD backups of Wii games can exist and function. This was patched later by a hardware revision, not in software. The "DRM" just decrypts content on-the-fly using the key the Dolphin Team has decided to provide as a "fallback" (that's the claim, but we know most people don't provide their own NAND backup for Dolphin).

Nintendo Wii's security isn't fantastic and we all know this. This is why I'm confident the developers working on Dolphin can come up with a better solution than providing something to the user that they never should have. They fucked up.
 
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DMCIA, brought to you by the president who disputed the definition of "is" to lie about his sexual exploitation. That's what we are working with here. That mess needs to be purged. Despite @smf being a complete tool, he is embracing the spirit of DMCIA. Maybe we should thank him for being a devil's advocate and forcing us to contemplate useless arguments that will never weigh in on non-existing cases.
 

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