Do you believe in aliens?

[Phoenix Goddess]

Because we have no conclusive proof of actually have aliens/intelligent life, its a much more sound argument for the the skeptic. Its not perfect, and its also a inductive argument till we find an answer.
Its actually easier and more logical to believe that there are no aliens/IL, from a purely logical standpoint.

Its the same as me taking you to china. I make the argument, "There is no gold in China."
My end of the argument is done. Again logically.
To counter that, you would have to actually FIND a piece of gold IN China.
Id doesnt have to be big, or alot of it. Any will do.
But until you have, My argument is more airtight.

Now for the purposes of exploring the cosmos, i certainly hope we do find, a very least, LIFE, somewhere in the stars.

Hmm... I would have to disagree. It would be quite silly to think we're the only ones in the universe(and quite full of ourselves). It's simply too vast and mysterious to think that. It would be logical to think we're not the only life in the universe.
Regardless, I don't think we've been visited, yet. I don't think aliens go peeping in windows saying, "Oh look at dat.", no matter what Stan Romanek a certain guy says


For those of you who say you don't believe in UFOs or there aren't any, please keep in mind that UFO means "Unidentified Flying Object". It's a flying object that has not been identified. It does not mean "aliens from outer space".
I repeat, "UFO" does not mean "aliens".


And please, let's not bring God into this. Threads usually go bad when that happens.

 

[BORTZ]

@[member='Phoenix Goddess']
Oh certainly. All im saying is that from a logical standpoint (the bones of arguments and shiz).
Me personally i totally hope we find something out there.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Because we have no conclusive proof of actually have aliens/intelligent life, its a much more sound argument for the the skeptic. Its not perfect, and its also a inductive argument till we find an answer.
Its actually easier and more logical to believe that there are no aliens/IL, from a purely logical standpoint.

Its the same as me taking you to china. I make the argument, "There is no gold in China."
My end of the argument is done. Again logically.
To counter that, you would have to actually FIND a piece of gold IN China.
Id doesnt have to be big, or alot of it. Any will do.
But until you have, My argument is more airtight.

Now for the purposes of exploring the cosmos, i certainly hope we do find, a very least, LIFE, somewhere in the stars.

But then I could say that it's impossible to claim that there is no gold in China unless you have searched every square inch of the country and found no gold.

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

 

[BORTZ]

@[member='soulx']
you miss the point of a "logical" argument. not logic like you might be thinking, im talking about mathematical logic.

 

[Elrinth]

I'm not going to cross any of the poll options because I wanted a "Maybe, they might exist on planets outside of our solar system". It's a high probability of this.
I don't think they've visited the planet earth just yet.
Ancients writings on walls and such I believe to be just pictures of someone with great imagination. Same as I believe the bible is just a good story. Perhaps a great story who many people together wrote.
I also believe that the powers of a human being is far greater than what we know today.

 

[Walker D]

After meeting my science teacher at school, I started believing in aliens
creepy lady

 

[Deleted_171835]

In response to the question at hand, I believe that aliens do exist somewhere in our universe (simply too large for that not to be the case) but I don't think they have ever contacted us.

~snip

Clearly a prank call...

So you basically got a offer by the government to disappear at 14? Holy hell you must be intelligent. May i ask what type of exam you took?

>implying intelligence can be measured in an exam

 

[jonthedit]

I believe. Just warning you guys : This should be common sense, but I'll put it out there:
Most "UFO's" (Unidentified Objects) are most likely just undercover projects.

 

[Minox]

Yes, I do believe that there may be some kind of yet to be identified alien life form out there, though by alien life form I mean anything from a one-celled bacteria and bigger/more complex creatures.

 

[Chikaku-chan]

I see no real reason as to why aliens cannot exist in the world,
As an alien is someone from a foreign land/planet.
Though in the context that you speak of, (outer space) we cannot be the ONLY living beings out here.

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

A quote from Carl Sagan's book "Contact"
(which should be required reading for everyone in the world)

You know, there are 400 billion stars out there, just in our galaxy alone. If only one out of a million of those had planets, all right, and if just one out of a million of those had life, and if just one out of a million of those had intelligent life, there would be literally millions of civilizations out there.

Spoiler: And to really drive that point home, one of the Hubble Deep Field images

Each of those galaxies is likely to have similar numbers of stars, and planets, and possibilities for life as our own Milky Way does.

To think that we're the only place in all the worlds that intelligent life exists is more than just arrogant; it's absolutely foolish.

EDIT: And if Reddit ever quits pinging this site long enough you (allegedly) can view a 150,000 megapixel composite image of our own galaxy and get a real feel of what's supposedly "In our own back yard", astronomically speaking.
http://djer.roe.ac.uk/vsa/vvv/iipmooviewer-2.0-beta/vvvgps5.html
If you get it to load, let me know.

 

[Midna]

Of course I believe in aliens

Spoiler

Not to mention time travellers, espers, and god herself.

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

A quote from Carl Sagan's book "Contact"
(which should be required reading for everyone in the world)

You know, there are 400 billion stars out there, just in our galaxy alone. If only one out of a million of those had planets, all right, and if just one out of a million of those had life, and if just one out of a million of those had intelligent life, there would be literally millions of civilizations out there.

Spoiler: And to really drive that point home, one of the Hubble Deep Field images

Each of those galaxies is likely to have similar numbers of stars, and planets, and possibilities for life as our own Milky Way does.

To think that we're the only place in all the worlds that intelligent life exists is more than just arrogant; it's absolutely foolish.

The weird part is, that since that calculation was done. They have discovered that planets are almost a byproduct of star formation. Meaning that almost every star they look has planets orbiting it.

The universe is a big place.... I would say we might get lost, but that would imply we know where we are now... lol

 

[Phoenix Goddess]

Even if intelligent life outside of Earth did know we were here and did want to contact us, I can't really say I'd want them to until we grew the hell up. We humans tend to be very violent and arrogant, sadly(Not all of us, but many.). We would think we were better somehow, have the right to experiment on them or worse. Unfortunately, history has shown how we view people who are or look different than us and we have yet to really change. Sure, we're getting better(I hope), but there's still too much hate in the world.

We're terrible when it comes to change and different(e.g. different race, tribe, etc.) beings on our own planet. Can you imagine how we would be to a different kind of being not from here?

 

[Psionic Roshambo]

Even if intelligent life outside of Earth did know we were here and did want to contact us, I can't really say I'd want them to until we grew the hell up. We humans tend to be very violent and arrogant, sadly(Not all of us, but many.). We would think we were better somehow, have the right to experiment on them or worse. Unfortunately, history has shown how we view people who are or look different than us and we have yet to really change. Sure, we're getting better(I hope), but there's still too much hate in the world.

We're terrible when it comes to change and different(e.g. different race, tribe, etc.) beings on our own planet. Can you imagine how we would be to a different kind of being not from here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

This page leads to a bunch of other pages that have a fantastic amount of information on the whole subject of life in the universe.

I dimly recall reading something about there supposedly being 5 types of civilizations that could survive a technological infancy and not blow them selves up or not invent tech enough to get to the stars. I am not quite sure we can master FTL travel? Would be awesome but that would require some really out of the box thinking like flattening the orbits of atomic structures using phased magnetic resonance. (That was some industrial strength techno babel there so please don't yell at me it was meant as joke. lol)

 

[Sterling]

And if Reddit ever quits pinging this site long enough you (allegedly) can view a 150,000 megapixel composite image of our own galaxy and get a real feel of what's supposedly "In our own back yard", astronomically speaking.
http://djer.roe.ac.u...ta/vvvgps5.html
If you get it to load, let me know.

Umm, I'd just like to re-post this for the absolute awesomeness of the photo. Here's my screen cap which should drive the awesomeness home:

Spoiler: AWESOME SCREENIE

 

[BORTZ]

@[member='PsionicRoshambo']
Im starting to think you are an alien.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

There are thousands of galaxies in the KNOWN universe. With an uncountable number of planetary systems in each.

To believe that we are the only intelligent life in the Universe is not only ignorant, but extremely arrogant.

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

There are thousands of galaxies in the KNOWN universe. With an uncountable number of planetary systems in each.

To believe that we are the only intelligent life in the Universe is not only ignorant, but extremely arrogant.

....this sounds so familiar....

 

[MelodieOctavia]

There are thousands of galaxies in the KNOWN universe. With an uncountable number of planetary systems in each.

To believe that we are the only intelligent life in the Universe is not only ignorant, but extremely arrogant.

....this sounds so familiar....

Heh. I guess that's what I get for only reading OP's post before replying.