The Pirate Support Thread

[suppow]

You're pulling shit out of your ass here.

Sure, back in the days, the physical cost was relatively high compared to production cost. On one hand, you had huge boxes, manuals of easily ten times as large as modern games, sometimes a fancy map, a bunch of floppies...quite a lot compared to the fysical stuff nowadays. On the other hand, game creating teams were small. Just take a look at game credits of those games and compare them to today's games.

With prices remaining more or less the same, despite these changes, it doesn't take a genius to see that the cost shifted towards the actual CREATING of the game, right?

You're calling it an insult to the customer when physical copies cost the same as digital ones. Have you even considered the other side of that argument? If they weren't the same...it would mean that people without large internet connections would be discriminated against. And putting the blame on the game developers is also stupid: they already pay for all the physical copies, whether they're bought or not. Putting the internet copy up for cheaper means that less people will buy the phyisical one...which makes it a cost for the company (as said: they have to pay manufacturing costs).


But even then...that's not really correct, is it? I was going to say "have you never heard of steam? Or indie games?"... but you rant about the latter in the rest of the post. Anyway: steam often IS cheaper than the physical copy. Not straight from the start, since it would hurt the sales of the physical copies. But there are plenty of sales so you can beat physical prices.
As for indie games...they do exactly what you want. They have a comparable team size as to "back in the day", and they charge less because there's no manufacturing cost. So I don't really get your rant at all.

Do you want AAA games to be made with a team as small as indie games or something?

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[ouch123]

Do you want AAA games to be made with a team as small as indie games or something?

Though I agree with your post on the whole, I just have to respond to this one part: Resident Evil 6.

On-topic: I'm a fan of a number of series that I probably would never have even tried otherwise. And guess what happens when I like a series enough? I start spending money on it. I think it tends to sort itself out, especially since I like having physical media.

 

[the_randomizer]

Don't even get me started on N64 VC... There's only like 21 games in America.

That alone is the primary reason for installing Wii64 on my SD card; unfortunately, it looks as though the N64/PSX aspect of the Wii may be dead. The developers never make real emulator progress announcements. The same reason you stated is also the reason I hacked my Wii because of the blatant refusal to release specific games on the Virtual Console, whether it be due to alleged "legal issues" or some other BS, I justified using Snes9x Next/GX because it did a better job emulating, plus it had filtering.

 

[pwsincd]

Wouldn't that fit in the "I currently pirate and I see no problem with it" category...?

no , cuz i see the problem with it , i just cant afford to live without it.

 

[TripleSMoon]

no , cuz i see the problem with it , i just cant afford to live without it.

There's really no such thing. Just saying.

 

[DAZA]

i remember back in 1996-7 i was told about the piracy scene online and warez.... lol a term you dont here very often now, times must have been tough for a lot of people so they took when they could, i remember streaming tv shows online. now.... its curious to know if the level of piracy has dropped now because of large companies who do streaming tv + films also sends films and games to your door ?!

 

[TripleSMoon]

i remember back in 1996-7 i was told about the piracy scene online and warez.... lol a term you dont here very often now, times must have been tough for a lot of people so they took when they could, i remember streaming tv shows online. now.... its curious to know if the level of piracy has dropped now because of large companies who do streaming tv + films also sends films and games to your door ?!

I think piracy has increased, thanks to the advancement of internet technology. Back in 96/97, it really wasn't feasible to download multi-gb size files at all. Now it is, often in less than an hour thanks to torrents.

 

[suppow]

I think piracy has increased, thanks to the advancement of internet technology. Back in 96/97, it really wasn't feasible to download multi-gb size files at all. Now it is, often in less than an hour thanks to torrents.

i remember back in the day, trying to download N64 roms (not that they worked)
"holy shit that's huge" it took a while to download, and then they just sat there, not emu could run the good enough lol

 

[emigre]

I think piracy has increased, thanks to the advancement of internet technology. Back in 96/97, it really wasn't feasible to download multi-gb size files at all. Now it is, often in less than an hour thanks to torrents.

Than people used to pay to get their consoles modded and then buy burnt games. I remember being a kid and being the only one who didn't have a modded PSOne. If memory serves me correct, you could a PSOne game for about a tenner.

 

[pwsincd]

i recall sat on a 56k modem pre broadband downloading music from napster , thinking if i can d/l music like this there must be more , my endless search resulted in downloading mision impossible 2 the movie and i was hooked , musta took a week . but most the things most ppl d/l they wouldnt have ever bought so i guess its a bizarre form of product hype lol.

 

[Sheimi]

At one point I used to pirate. But when I got a job, thats when I started buying the things I pirated. Was more happy buying my own stuff than downloading it. But, I had a connection going at about 90KB/s when I was pirating. Now I have a connection at 120kb/s. Which is enough for me to play on Wifi and watch Netflix. The download speed deters me now.

 

[Dork]

Piracy is for losers. If you're in a position where you can't afford games (or records or books or whatever) and you resort to piracy, you suck. Maybe you should use the time you spend playing pirated video games to think of ways to improve your life, or at the very least your wage. Do you NEED that PS3 game? Do you NEED that episode? Do you NEED that album? Of course not. They might be nice extras that make you feel good for a minute but in the end you could have spent the time you spent playing the game doing something more useful which would actually allow you to spend more time playing games in the future (and would allow you to pay for said games).

If you have the money to afford everything you want but still resort to piracy, you're a complete twat.

I can see you read the OP.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I can see you read the OP.

Well its obvious that if a thread like this is made these elitist tolls will flock to it shoving their shit in people's faces.

 

[TripleSMoon]

At one point I used to pirate. But when I got a job, thats when I started buying the things I pirated. Was more happy buying my own stuff than downloading it. But, I had a connection going at about 90KB/s when I was pirating. Now I have a connection at 120kb/s. Which is enough for me to play on Wifi and watch Netflix. The download speed deters me now.

It's funny because it seems most ex-pirates I've heard here stopped when they got a job, myself included. Guess it debunks the idea that "all pirates are lazy and selfish and just don't want to go to the effort to pay." Some of us just COULDN'T pay. Now that I have a job, like you, I'm more than happy to pay for things. Granted, I don't think I would go back to pirating if I lost my job, but it's still an interesting thing to think about.

I can see you read the OP.

I was thinking the exact same thing, but I wasn't gonna say anything! XD

 

[Just Another Gamer]

It's funny because it seems most ex-pirates I've heard here stopped when they got a job, myself included. Guess it debunks the idea that "all pirates are lazy and selfish and just don't want to go to the effort to pay." Some of us just COULDN'T pay. Now that I have a job, like you, I'm more than happy to pay for things. Granted, I don't think I would go back to pirating if I lost my job, but it's still an interesting thing to think about.

Thats weird because when I worked and was earning money I still pirated, probably because I spend all of it on my hardware and stuff for my consoles. I do think it is more convenient to have the ISOs or ROMs since they can be stored on 1 device like the console hard drive or memory card instead of carrying around all these cartridges and disks.

 

[TripleSMoon]

Thats weird because when I worked and was earning money I still pirated, probably because I spend all of it on my hardware and stuff for my consoles. I do think it is more convenient to have the ISOs or ROMs since they can be stored on 1 device like the console hard drive or memory card instead of carrying around all these cartridges and disks.

Yeah. I'm not saying that applies to ALL pirates, but to the ones who do stop, that seems to be a common trend.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Yeah. I'm not saying that applies to ALL pirates, but to the ones who do stop, that seems to be a common trend.

Ah sorry I guess I misread. But don't you find it hard having to carry around all your games if your travelling?

 

[TripleSMoon]

But don't you find it hard having to carry around all your games if your travelling?

For DS games? Not really. At least, not yet. I got

Spoiler: one of these

with my Club Nintendo points this summer, and it's compact (the size of a typical 3DS game case), small enough to fit in my backpack with ease. I do kind of miss having all my games on one cart, but it's not that big of a deal. With GBA it sort of is, though.

That considered, even though I stopped pirating, I'm considering grabbing an EZ Flash IV for my GBA games, even though I'll still buy them legally. It'll be much less of a hassle since it's such a pain to carry GBA carts everywhere.

 

[The Minecrafter]

The way I see it, piracy should be considered an extended "Bill Me Later". You should always support the companies of the games that you like and enjoy, but I know some people do not have the cash, or sometimes it is a really expensive game, and they want to see if it is worth it. I say, if you like it, or did like it, when it is convenient for you, you should buy the game and support the company. Because the company will still get your money from your purchase, it will just be a lot later than usual.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

For DS games? Not really. At least, not yet. I got

Spoiler: one of these

with my Club Nintendo points this summer, and it's compact (the size of a typical 3DS game case), small enough to fit in my backpack with ease. I do kind of miss having all my games on one cart, but it's not that big of a deal. With GBA it sort of is, though.

That considered, even though I stopped pirating, I'm considering grabbing an EZ Flash IV for my GBA games, even though I'll still buy them legally. It'll be much less of a hassle since it's such a pain to carry GBA carts everywhere.

Ah thats cool altgough you're limited to 18 which might get annoying later on. But yea I agree with GBA its much harder. I remember when I actualy had GBA games it was a pain to carry them in my bag going places but now i'm so happy with all the GBA games I love on my phone...good times..