Nintendo is to blame for poor Wii U sales, says Iwata

[the_randomizer]

Nintendo Fanbase:

>When Retro is working on a game, they pray to their Nintendo gods for "Metroid Prime 4"
>When any other shooter is being discussed, the game is "bad"

>Hate sports games
>Love Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario Golf etc.

You do sleep at night...right?

 

[Hielkenator]

But third party titles generally don't sell on Nintendo consoles. Look at the Wii, the biggest third party gaem was fucking Just Dance.

All Capcom games are worth the system and sold well.
Also the excellentce of SEGA are noteworthy ( Madworld, House of the Dead Overkill )
Then there's No More Heroes 1 & 2, Scarface, Goldeneye, Arc rise Fantasia, the Last Story, Xenoblade...etc etc

 

[emigre]

All Capcom games are worth the system and sold well.
Also the excellentce of SEGA are noteworthy ( Madworld, House of the Dead Overkill )
Then there's No More Heroes 1 & 2, Scarface, Goldeneye, Arc rise Fantasia, the Last Story, Xenoblade...etc etc

A lot of those gaems did okish at best. I understand there was slight disappointment with The Last Story and Xenoblade( which are first party/second party gaems). ARF sales were pretty meh but the game was average. Madworld and HotD overkill flopped. Sega openly admitted that sales were disappointing.

 

[Hielkenator]

The problem with the Wii U is that its pretty much garbage. The situtation wont have been helped either by recent announcements of upcoming consoles due for release in the next 6 months or so. The Wii U never really had any identity or knew what its audience was. It was a console that apart from a gimmicky touchscreen, offers nothing really that the Xbox or PS3 didnt offer, and at a much cheaper price point.

I've owned every Nintendo product from the NES days (but not the WII U), but I see them at some point, going down the road of Sega. Take your games mulitplatform and make your millions that way. Let the other companies battle it out for hardware as Nintendo seem reluctant (financially I expect) to keep up on specs.

Because let's be honest here, if Nintendo out of the box gave it more power under the hood, and we saw games from day 1 that you just couldn't get near to on xbox and PS3, they would of had a much better start, even if it meant say 20% on top of the first RRP and devs wouldn't have been dropping titles left right and centre.

Jesus it isn't a race. Nor is the system a car or High end PC
Gameplay is what counts, and Nintendo can provide that like no other company.
You can have that regardless of specs ( Wich are fine if you ask me )
It's a game machine nothing more.
We will talk again after the 1st party titles set off, lol.

A lot of those gaems did okish at best. I understand there was slight disappointment with The Last Story and Xenoblade( which are first party/second party gaems). ARF sales were pretty meh but the game was average. Madworld and HotD overkill flopped. Sega openly admitted that sales were disappointing.

Well people should have bought them then, instead of pirating them.
It's not like the the 3rd party devs didn't try or that those game lack in quality or originality.
Or that the Wii is unpopular system.
Those games are worth there money no doubt.
So what is the case your think?

I'm kinda suprise Sony and Microsoft is using HDD's vs SSD's.

SSD are old allready, they have a limit write lifecycle.
Wait for the newer HDD's wich are almost the same as ordinary hdd's but with 100 x higher capacity then we now know.
At the speed of SSD.

Microsoft is selling Xbox 360's for $150 at a profit (2006 technology). So does the WiiU (1997 IBM-based CPU and circa 2006-some technology) cost over twice as much to manufacture in comparison?

I don't believe Nintendo. The actual hardware is barely more costly than last generation, and the only new contributing cost factor is the WiiU controller's screen... but it's a TFT, low resolution piece of crap (honestly). No capacitivity, no multitouch, non-corning glass plastic garbage. You can buy iPad Retina display replacement screens for $30-$50.

Unless the WiiU controller somehow costs a good $100+, the WiiU should not cost so much.

it's not a phone.

Nintendo should show a commercial on how good there console is and how its a not accessories for the wii. I ask my mom for some money to buy a wii u and she said 'what that thing to play on the wii' 'and i just stared at her like -_-

That's pathetic.
You asked your mom?

 

[pwsincd]

NAND Flash memory is piss poor cheap and the bare prices of the chips in no way justify the massive price gap between the standard and the Premium model..

Deluxe model came with nintendoland , charging cradle for gamepad , gamepad stand , 32 gigs , and some glossy black stuff

EDIT : totally ninja'd didnt read the 4 pages after your post lol..

 

[ggyo]

Like shooters! And more shooters! And sports! And more shooters! And look.... a shooter that has a bald overly buff protagonist... and another shooter! And a dog... In a shooter!

The FPS genre probably has one of the lowest amount of IPs out of all the popular video game genres.

For every FPS, you have like 5 RPGs, 4 of them being JRPGs.

 

[pwsincd]

Maybe like he's young, how would it be pathetic .. wtf sorta comment is that ?

 

[BlackWizzard17]

That's pathetic.
You asked your mom?

Well its not like the word of "THE SUPER AMAZING TOUCH SCREEN CONSOLE THINGY'" is shown much and you barely see it as much as playstation and xbox. And yeah I ask my mom for some extra money cause my birthday passed like two days ago.

 

[the_randomizer]

it's not a phone.

Wait it's not, why didn't ggyo tell me sooner? I knew I shouldn't have sold my Nokia brick phone! The Wii U game pad's technology ain't NOTHING compared to Nokia! Am I totally wasted or are the people getting more and more upset over trivial issues while getting more and more butt-hurt?

What was I going to do after I respond to this "discussion"....oh right! *Goes back to playing off-screen play on Wii U game pad*

 

[BlackWizzard17]

Wait it's not, why didn't ggyo tell me sooner? I knew I shouldn't have sold my Nokia brick phone! The Wii U game pad's technology ain't NOTHING compared to Nokia!

Well most people complain about the game pad not being multi-touch but it would kinda suck especially with the buttons in the way for touching the screen or how it would suck if it had no buttons.

 

[the_randomizer]

Well most people complain about the game pad not being multi-touch but it would kinda suck especially with the buttons in the way for touching the screen or how it would suck if it had no buttons.

Exactly. If people wanted a better LCD with multi-touch/capacitive features, that's the the iPad is for. They should buy Apple's products since they're better suited for their self-entitled sanctimonious attitudes.

Off-screen play....being able to play games, watch YouTube or Netflix when someone else is using the TV is quite beneficial, but if people want to wait while others watch Glee marathons or Here Comes Honey Boo Boo until they play the precious Xbox One/PS4 games, fine by me.
The technology is similar to Intel's WiDi or Wireless Display tech where AV data is sent from the consol to the game pad with less than 1/60th of second delay. That tech ain't cheap either, people are just being uppity because they can't back up their arguments with facts.

 

[Foxi4]

You do sleep at night...right?

Sleeping is for the weak.

 

[McHaggis]

Sleeping is for the week.

ftfy, if I had my way...

 

[emigre]

Well people should have bought them then, instead of pirating them.
It's not like the the 3rd party devs did't try or that those game lack in quality or originality.
Or that the Wii is unpopulair system.
Those games are worth there money no doubt.
So what is the case your think?

This is completely relevant to my original point.

 

[Lucifer666]

Tl;dr the entire thread but I honestly think the biggest way Nintendo could have avoided this is by changing the name before it came out.

It's not that it's bad or crappy, but a lot of oblivious kids and parents genuinely think it's still a Wii, or that their Wiis can play new Wii U games, etc.

 

[jacksprat1990]

Nintendo Fanbase:

>When Retro is working on a game, they pray to their Nintendo gods for "Metroid Prime 4"
>When any other shooter is being discussed, the game is "bad"

>Hate sports games
>Love Mario Tennis, Mario Kart, Mario Golf etc.

I'm a massive Nintendo fanboy and I have to say that statement is pretty much wrong. As much as I would like to see another Metroid Prime, I like the fact that Retro are allowed to make something else from Nintendo's franchises and doing a good job. And I like shooters if they're good.

I like the older Virtua Tennis games, older PES games, older 2K games, the original EA Hockey game, Mutant League etc. but I can't say that I've ever enjoyed a Mario sports game (Tennis, Golf, Football etc.)

 

[Foxi4]

I'm a massive Nintendo fanboy and I have to say that statement is pretty much wrong. As much as I would like to see another Metroid Prime, I like the fact that Retro are allowed to make something else from Nintendo's franchises and doing a good job. And I like shooters if they're good.

I like the older Virtua Tennis games, older PES games, older 2K games, the original EA Hockey game, Mutant League etc. but I can't say that I've ever enjoyed a Mario sports game (Tennis, Golf, Football etc.)

That was satire/sarcasm, hence the green text.

 

[jacksprat1990]

That was satire/sarcasm, hence the green text.

Ah, I'm not aware of the green text/sarcasm concept. Forgive me

 

[the_randomizer]

Sleeping is for the weak.

Ah, okay, just wondering.

 

[The Milkman]

I'm not saying their marketing isn't a problem. It's horrible, and probably their biggest problem right now.

This is just a (clever) way of comforting investors. It draws attention to the main issue, which can be fixed easily, and away from the many smaller issues, which will take much more time to fix.

In the end, some decent marketing will certainly help the Wii U, but it's not the whole problem.

I agree there. But just remember, Nintendo has pulled this off before, so im pretty sure the mindset is they can pull it off again. If they can or not (especially being a PowerPC in an x86 world.) this time.