Hacking New 3DS FlashCart - Sky3DS firmware 9.0

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the thing that i noticed (if i got it right) is that you can write any games up to 10 in this card but then you can't overwrite those games anymore and you are forced to buy another sky3ds for another 10 games only slots?

You are right. Its also confirmed by the sky3ds team.
But everyone wants to see how does it work in reality.
 

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It can also be the limit of the rom switcher . waiting for reviews , but even with the limit i will buy it if it works
 

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It would be kinda stupid that hackers can unlock 3ds, and they cant unlock " max 10 games limit" on a flashcard :)
 

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I've heard rumors that the program used to add games to the Sky3DS is written in .net, which I'm not terribly familiar with but should be easy enough to decompile and maybe find the reason for the limit. Once the DiskTool hits the internet I'll be very interested in this card's design.

I'm sure it won't be long before a method is found to reset the Sky card and clear its 10 game memory.
 
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I've heard rumors that the program used to add games to the Sky3DS is written in .net, which I'm not terribly familiar with but should be easy enough to decompile and maybe find the reason for the limit. Once the DiskTool hits the internet I'll be very interested in this card's design.

I'm sure it won't be long before a method is found to reset the Sky card and clear its 10 game memory.

Exactly what I was thinking of. Just use an application like .NET Reflector.
 

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Exactly what I was thinking of. Just use an application like .NET Reflector.

Do you know your way around .net? I know a few languages but very little about the framework. I think if we get a group of people working on it together we'll very quickly be able to figure out if the limit can be circumvented with just software. I do not know jack about hardware, so hopefully we don't run into a roadblock there.
 

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You do have a choice. Wait until it comes out and let gateway tinker with it. If you think they arent going to buy one to play woth it then youre being silly. Gateway may be able to figure out how to work on 9.x sysnand.

Wait a few months and be patient. Hell once its out(if it comes out) it may take less time then a few months. Tjen you have all the abilities of gateway on latest firmware.

Remember thats not a fact but like i said if you think gateway isnt going to tinker with this thing youre silly.

Edit: go look at gateways site even. In the 2.5 update they say they have nothing official to say about the New 3ds but they have a few tricks up their sleeves. Maybe now they will have a new kexploit and a new userland exploit. All you have to do is wait to find out.

Sky3ds is an awesome competitor if they are real though. And maybe they will see they meed to fix the limitations of their card. Who knows what could come from this. Things are heating up and i can only see mpre progress being made from here.

Edit 2: sorry for my spelling errors ill try to remember to edit them out tomorrow. Im on my phone and its a straight up pain in the ass trying to do it on here.

but gateway say nothing about 9.x, always emunand, i want a flashcard that can really work on my 2DS, i dont need emunand
 

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but gateway say nothing about 9.x, always emunand, i want a flashcard that can really work on my 2DS, i dont need emunand
Yes but they said something about the New 3DS which just came out in japan not long ago. If they found something that will work on the New then it will probably work on your 2ds. As of right now they run the same firmware.
 

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need cash was a con artist now? When did that happen.
con artist/troll/BS'er i would say, he started saying his "exploit" played some part in sky3ds.......which kinda makes no sense as he claimed it was a modded GW 1.0 launcher which would only work upto 6.2, then as soon as this was released he was like "yeah this is down to me"........i find it very unlikely that in the space of like what, 3 days? after he sells the exploit, its turned from a modded 1.0 GW fw into a 9.x compatible flashcard with absolutely nothing at all that resembles the GW launcher method of execution and doesn't even seem to be any sort of exploit, more than likely he was attention seeking at just the right time to try claim some fame for this
 
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Do you know your way around .net? I know a few languages but very little about the framework. I think if we get a group of people working on it together we'll very quickly be able to figure out if the limit can be circumvented with just software. I do not know jack about hardware, so hopefully we don't run into a roadblock there.

Nope, I'm not a coder (yet) haha.
 

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Hi, I know it's being discussed so i just want to put my 2 cents out there that i believe the 10 game limit is not intentional and this is the only amount of games they can physically fit onto the card with the 1:1 method.

Let's see what we know; Crown3DS appeared to get a 1:1 copy of a game working (Splinter Cell?). Ace3DS has a 1:1 copy of a game working. So if you created a flashcart that wrote to 10 write-once chips whatever special game data is needed to run the games, then it loads the game data from the MicroSD. It would explain the cost of the card too since i don't think they deliberately want to make the card infeasibly expensive.

I don't know shit about hardware but it's possible at least, otherwise they just crippled a product that will be definitely cloned with better features? Or this is a lazy method that can be improved, either way it seems the 3DS needs the carts to appear or actually be read only. If it has 10 individual chips onboard that are flashed a single time then the cost might make more sense?
 

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Hi, I know it's being discussed so i just want to put my 2 cents out there that i believe the 10 game limit is not intentional and this is the only amount of games they can physically fit onto the card with the 1:1 method.

Let's see what we know; Crown3DS appeared to get a 1:1 copy of a game working (Splinter Cell?). Ace3DS has a 1:1 copy of a game working. So if you created a flashcart that wrote to 10 write-once chips whatever special game data is needed to run the games, then it loads the game data from the MicroSD. It would explain the cost of the card too since i don't think they deliberately want to make the card infeasibly expensive.

I don't know shit about hardware but it's possible at least, otherwise they just crippled a product that will be definitely cloned with better features? Or this is a lazy method that can be improved, either way it seems the 3DS needs the carts to appear or actually be read only. If it has 10 individual chips onboard that are flashed a single time then the cost might make more sense?
ace3DS was a scam, they just unsoldered a retail games chip and stuck it on a pcb with a switch to con people into thinking it was legit, there are holes in the theory for 1 fitting 10 chips inside the card would be unlikely plus how would they be getting flashed etc, i think maybe we should just wait till its released and its oped up to see what it is and "why" its limited.....but im pretty certain its going to be a FPGA a save chip and a SD slot and a few little bits :D
 

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Sorry the 10 chips theory is a little silly but i mean something along those lines... here's a picture of the inside of the 'King 3DS' which seemed to be beaten to the punch in it's announcement of the exact same product so make your own conclusions about the internals.

k3ds-world-1st-2in1-3dsds-modes-3ds-game-card.jpg


I don't know anything about hardware as i said but isn't it possible to blow a fuse to prevent further flashing of some kind of writeable chip? And the 3DS requires it to be read only, prehaps it actually attempts to check this, meaning a read-only chip would be the only way to play a game 1:1.

The Ace3DS is kinda relevant because it is technically a bootleg of a game, they didn't buy up copies of the game and use them in their cart right? So they were playing a game in 3DS mode 1:1 just a single one. With a hardware switch then all that's needed is a way to make the user able to pick their own games - which was probably the problem they had for ages since Crown3DS and whoever else was working on this.
 

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Sorry the 10 chips theory is a little silly but i mean something along those lines... here's a picture of the inside of the 'King 3DS' which seemed to be beaten to the punch in it's announcement of the exact same product so make your own conclusions about the internals.

k3ds-world-1st-2in1-3dsds-modes-3ds-game-card.jpg
It looks hand-made...
 
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Sorry the 10 chips theory is a little silly but i mean something along those lines... here's a picture of the inside of the 'King 3DS' which seemed to be beaten to the punch in it's announcement of the exact same product so make your own conclusions about the internals.

k3ds-world-1st-2in1-3dsds-modes-3ds-game-card.jpg


I don't know anything about hardware as i said but isn't it possible to blow a fuse to prevent further flashing of some kind of writeable chip? And the 3DS requires it to be read only, prehaps it actually attempts to check this, meaning a read-only chip would be the only way to play a game 1:1.

The Ace3DS is kinda relevant because it is technically a bootleg of a game, they didn't buy up copies of the game and use them in their cart right? So they were playing a game in 3DS mode 1:1 just a single one. With a hardware switch then all that's needed is a way to make the user able to pick their own games - which was probably the problem they had for ages since Crown3DS and whoever else was working on this.
Isn't this the MTcard?
 

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