F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules on the USA

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I wasnt trying to be arrogant, I was just stating a fact. I'm not proud that I live in a massive tyrant of a superpower. I'm just saying the state of the us affects the world. We're the central hub of commerce and communication. You will see the affects of our net policies. We account for a third of it globally.
Ur still forgetting that the Euro is a lot more worth then the dollar. Europe is a hell lot richer then the US with a lot less debt. There is less difference between rich and poor here. Better Healthcare and social housing. Schools don't cost a fortune a leg a liver and a house here. By 2025 Europe will be nuclear free and i can go on and on and on. Ur not the fucking superpower anymore that you used to be. You're more turning in 2 a third world country with a first world infrastructure. But most of you people being that proud that you fail to see that and Always belittling everyone else and praising yourself to kingdom come.
 

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No you don't . The ignorance of Americans ''facepalm'' Always claiming to be the best and claiming world leadership. There is a reason most countries hate you but it's never your own fault i guess. The blame Always has to be put somewhere else

That's a pretty fucking low blow, mate, generalizing bullshit is something you people like to engage in, I see. Go figure.

Ur still forgetting that the Euro is a lot more worth then the dollar. Europe is a hell lot richer then the US with a lot less debt. There is less difference between rich and poor here. Better Healthcare and social housing. Schools don't cost a fortune a leg a liver and a house here. By 2025 Europe will be nuclear free and i can go on and on and on. Ur not the fucking superpower anymore that you used to be. You're more turning in 2 a third world country with a first world infrastructure. But most of you people being that proud that you fail to see that and Always belittling everyone else and praising yourself to kingdom come.

Well aren't you just special. Good, then don't fucking visit the US, we're better off without condescending people like you visiting. You're being belittling yourself by trying to make yourself feel better by verbally attacking others. How mature.

Do I go around bashing other countries for so-called inferiority? No, I don't, but whatever, say whatever you want, if it makes you feel better.
 
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not only are people misinformed, the biggest problem is that most of them hear the first thing that comes to their ears and stick with it. thats something we got from mother nature (thanks, dumbass!) and it is very hard to do anything against it, but to be objective, you should.
I like indie games. they are cheap, fun, creative and sometimes very good. it would be very sad if some internet provider will get money from ninty, ea, other big AAA devs to stop giving good speed to the sites of these indies, because their game is very good and addicting and might hurt their own business. shit like this happens on youtube- some of my favorite creators make cool vids (for example, "electrons by naked eye" by thunderf00t) and then youtube (for their own reasons, mainly profits etc) just removes the video from public view and if it even returns, it is very late, after most of potential views are already gone. this is ok because youtube is a company. even then people are angry about it. but now they want to do it to all the internet- censoring. with youtube it didnt happen that a big corp paid them money to put shadow on rivals (I think thats because google are cool with their opinions about that) but when you give such responsibility to companies that done bad stuff before in that exact area? that would be very bad
and think what would happen if wikipedia wont be included in the base package. just imagine.
and if origin will just stop working or work worse.
when corp's outside us smell money - they will push their own countries to do the same. nowdays big corp's are very big. HUGE. they have a lot of power. iirc I read somewhere a few years ago that Samsung is more then 50% as powerful as south korea. and to think it's not the biggest ccpmpany out there...
also imo 21 as legal age is stupid, should drop it down a few years (maybe 18?) but that argument of yours isn't really opposed to what I think.
in my country, everybody has at least 3 options of internet to chose from and that doesnt include the mobile internet providers as they sell dongles with unlimited internet with a sim card. the competition is high and I dont think anybody sells communication packages with internet slower then 50mbps. I heard about a package with 100mbps that costs 15$ a months a few years ago... that's fast enough for me to watch youtube streams at 1080p (I dont care about 4k) so that's fast enough. to hear that in usa, which should be a world leading country, there are places with no way to choose isp and get a very slow connection for a lot of money... I just feel sorry for ya'll[\Spoiler]
the people that threat the fcc might be a minority but they are a loud minority. also there are a lot of people who dont know what neutrality is or dont care... so yeah there are a lot more stupid people then one might think. no matter how much info you give them they will still think the same way, even more so on the internet. they come to some flame war, instead of taking in criticism on their opinion and adjusting it they become more and more extreme in their view which makes them (at least look) dumber...as somebody smart already said- a mob of people is more stupid then each one individually...

I would agree with the part you left in quote. It's sad, cause I think it's the most important thing to remember. There SHOULD be competitors in every single town, big or not. That many countries can do it but not the US should raise concern.
And that the FCC, whose only interest is to protect their people, doesn't even mention that, IS a concern.
But nope, instead they choose to waste their time repealing something without any proper argument that it will be good for anyone but big companies.

This is something the american people should be aware of, and fight for more ferociously. You have to HELP new ISP emerge, not kill them.
 

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And if it weren't for us you would still be owned by the English but you people tend to forget that part of history ;)
These arguments about Europe and America are stupid.
We weren't born in the past, we have no stake in the decisions our ancestors made. We might be affected but not responsible for anything they did because we weren't there. If my father is a serial killer, and I tried my best to live a respectable life, than I shouldn't be blamed for what he did. You were born in the country and thats it. You should take no credit for something you personally didn't do. What would happen if you were born in the U.S instead? Then what? Would you take credit for what the U.S. did and not Europe? Simply by birth of location. Its just plain stupid. You saying, "if it weren't for us" shows your emotionally invested simple by birth of country.
 
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That's a pretty fucking low blow, mate, generalizing bullshit is something you people like to engage in, I see. Go figure.



Well aren't you just special. Good, then don't fucking visit the US, we're better off without condescending people like you visiting. You're being belittling yourself by trying to make yourself feel better by verbally attacking others. How mature.
I never do so don't worry. And seems i hit a nerve lmao. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm defending myself since Weedz was attacking me and not the other way around but seeing how i said some stuff about the US you're trying to turn it around towards me ;)

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These arguments about Europe and America are stupid.
We weren't born in the past, we have no stake in the decisions our ancestors made. We might be affected but not responsible for anything they did because we weren't there. If my father is a serial killer, and I tried my best to live a respectable life, than I shouldn't be blamed for what he did. You were born in the country and thats it. You should take no credit for something you personally didn't do. What would happen if you were born in the U.S instead? Then what? Would you take credit for what the U.S. did and not Europe? Simply by birth of location. Its just plain stupid. You saying, "if it weren't for us" shows your emotionally invested simple by birth of country.
I don't hence why i would never bring that up what i said but seeing as he did i was just defending and i responded to what he said
 

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I never do so don't worry. And seems i hit a nerve lmao. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm defending myself since Weedz was attacking me and not the other way around but seeing how i said some stuff about the US you're trying to turn it around towards me ;)
My comment is for both you and Weedz,
 

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I never do so don't worry. And seems i hit a nerve lmao. I'm not attacking anyone. I'm defending myself since Weedz was attacking me and not the other way around but seeing how i said some stuff about the US you're trying to turn it around towards me ;)

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I don't hence why i would never bring that up what i said but seeing as he did i was just defending and i responded to what he said

Whatever, generalizing an entire country off the actions of a few is still a dick thing to do, but hey, it's not my fucking problem. One more to add to the ignore list, even though I don't know you, but thanks. I thought I was here to make some friends, but it seems you don't want me to extend a hand in friendship. Oh well :(

So much for that. This is why politics suck, people are always at each other's throats, so much for getting along and seeing past our own weaknesses. I don't think it's fair for you to hate us, when most of us don't even hate the EU, but hey, if you can hate us, I have every right to hate you, yes? Fair's fair, right?
 
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Ur still forgetting that the Euro is a lot more worth then the dollar. Europe is a hell lot richer then the US with a lot less debt. There is less difference between rich and poor here. Better Healthcare and social housing. Schools don't cost a fortune a leg a liver and a house here. By 2025 Europe will be nuclear free and i can go on and on and on. Ur not the fucking superpower anymore that you used to be. You're more turning in 2 a third world country with a first world infrastructure. But most of you people being that proud that you fail to see that and Always belittling everyone else and praising yourself to kingdom come.
fluctuation is nice and ever constant . . . yup . . . but that does not change the influence/impact the usa has on other countrys . . . perhaps thats the reason for the elitist attitude . . . the fact that we dont even need to be the "best" to be the greatest . . .
 
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Whatever, generalizing an entire country off the actions of a few is still a dick thing to do, but hey, it's not my fucking problem. One more to add to the ignore list, even though I don't know you, but thanks. I thought I was here to make some friends, but it seems you don't want me to extend a hand in friendship. Oh well :(
You're still making me sound the bad guy wich i wasn't. I wasn't the one being a pretentious fuck but Weedz was. So instead of calling me out who was just defending himself you should call Weedz out since he was more generalising then i fucking did. But seeing he does it with other countries it is okay and seeing i did it with the US you have the need to call me out when it was mostly him. But i get, when somebody else does it about other countries besides yours it is allright and here you are talking how bad it is to generalise. If you would truly feel that way t hen you would have called out Weedz and not me who was just defending himself from a prententious fuck

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fluctuation is nice and ever constant . . . yup . . . but that does not change the influence/impact the usa has on other countrys . . . perhaps thats the reason for the elitist attitude . . . the fact that we dont even need to be the "best" to be the greatest . . .
And another pretentious fuck joins up, now we have multiple prententious fucks joining up and then Randomizer has the nerve to call me out sitting on his high horse talking about not generalising but not calling out his own people.
 
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You're still making me sound the bad guy wich i wasn't. I wasn't the one being a pretentious fuck but Weedz was. So instead of calling me out who was just defending himself you should call Weedz out since he was more generalising then i fucking did. But seeing he does it with other countries it is okay and seeing i did it with the US you have the need to call me out when it was mostly him. But i get, when somebody else does it about other countries besides yours it is allright and here you are talking how bad it is to generalise. If you would truly feel that way t hen you would have called out Weedz and not me who was just defending himself from a prententious fuck

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And another pretentious fuck joins up

What am I supposed to say to that? I don't know how to properly reply to that, ah shit, this is why I hate politics, they solve nothing at all and no one ever agrees on anything. It's all convoluted sanctimonious BS. :sad:
 
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i just responded to what he said and wasn't meant in general and isn't something i bring up often. The world war thing is something i hear people bring up often and there is the difference
The general and not attacking part wasn't clear the first time. Since it did seem like you were attacking with the wording you used.
You could have responded saying Europe did this or that. Instead of We and Us. Makes it seem your personally invested in it.

Even as a defense, a bad way to argue is still a bad way, no matter who started. And not being clear with wording can confuse people on your original intent.
Which is why people respond the way they do.
 

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The general and not attacking part wasn't clear the first time. Since it did seem like you were attacking with the wording you used.
You could have responded saying Europe did this or that. Instead of We and Us. Makes it seem your personally invested in it.

Even as a defense, a bad way to argue is still a bad way, no matter who started. And not being clear with wording can confuse people on your original intent.
Which is why people respond the way they do.
yeah i do understand that ofcourse
 

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i just responded to what he said and wasn't meant in general and isn't something i bring up often. The world war thing is something i hear people bring up often and there is the difference to what i said.
I said hold on, I'd be back. I wasnt attacking you, I was expressing the reach of our influence. I agree the quality of life for individuals is probably way better in European countries. But make no mistake, the us runs the show. Russia is the only other country we're concerned about. Think about it, most of Europe is dealing with our war, we use England's airforce when we want. We have the biggest military and arsenal of weaponry. The only country to ever use nukes in combat. And we are the central hub for most of the world's commerce. What language are you speaking to me in right now? Not much to do with net neutrality atm, but we need to be realistic. The us does alot of dirty shit, and the world has to deal with it one way or another. That includes nn.
 

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I said hold on, I'd be back. I wasnt attacking you, I was expressing the reach of our influence. I agree the quality of life for individuals is probably way better in European countries. But make no mistake, the us runs the show. Russia is the only other country we're concerned about. Think about it, most of Europe is dealing with our war, we use England's airforce when we want. We have the biggest military and arsenal of weaponry. The only country to ever use nukes in combat. And we are the central hub for most of the world's commerce. What language are you speaking to me in right now? Not much to do with net neutrality atm, but we need to be realistic. The us does alot of dirty shit, and the world has to deal with it one way or another. That includes nn.
I'm not even gonna respond to your prententious rambling. You enjoy being a pretentious fuck. Have a good one
 
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I would agree with the part you left in quote. It's sad, cause I think it's the most important thing to remember. There SHOULD be competitors in every single town, big or not. That many countries can do it but not the US should raise concern.
And that the FCC, whose only interest is to protect their people, doesn't even mention that, IS a concern.
But nope, instead they choose to waste their time repealing something without any proper argument that it will be good for anyone but big companies.

This is something the american people should be aware of, and fight for more ferociously. You have to HELP new ISP emerge, not kill them.
the size is a factor when talking about setting up network, so that's easier to become ISP in my country which (like most of the countries) is smaller then the us, but from what I read it seems that money and setup isnt the problem here, duopoly is...
and this does sound like some bucks in FCC's pocket
 
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And another pretentious fuck joins up
look when you get like this its an argument and not a debate . . . did i insult you? . . . did i come out of nowhere to insult your views or did i make a comment and then answer your pretentious fucking questions . . . like your too good for america to ... to ... to ... anything you . . . like "the pond" is as expansive as deep space, as if to say for example that if nintendo japan was suddenly removed from existence nintendo of europe would not even notice . . . plain and simple the actions/consequences of one organization (or nation) do indeed affect neighboring organizations (or nations)

you act like you typed in europe.gbatemp.net to get here and i had to use the shitty-er usa.gbatemp.net no in either case it was www. (again as in world wide web)

so if hosted in the usa (under new prices/guidelines) then the whole world wide web will be affected . . . not even to mention the fact that if/when isp's do turn a profit from gouging, other corporations (starting with multinational divisions of the same corporations) will follow along . . . say it with me . . . "economics"
 
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look when you get like this its an argument and not a debate . . . did i insult you? . . . did i come out of nowhere to insult your views or did i make a comment and then answer your pretentious fucking questions . . . like your too good for america to ... to ... to ... anything you . . . like "the pond" is as expansive as deep space, as if to say for example that if nintendo japan was suddenly removed from existence nintendo of europe would not even notice . . . plain and simple the actions/consequences of one organization (or nation) do indeed affect neighboring organizations (or nations)

you act like you typed in europe.gbatemp.net to get here and i had to use the shitty-er usa.gbatemp.net no in either case it was www. (again as in world wide web)

so if hosted in the usa (under new prices/guidelines) then the whole world wide web will be affected . . . not even to mention the fact that if/when isp's do turn a profit from gouging, other corporations (starting with multinational divisions of the same corporations) will follow along . . . say it with me . . . "economics"
Like i said to the other guy. Not gonna respond to your pretentious rambling. Enjoy being a pretentious fuck. Have a good one bye
 

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Ur still forgetting that the Euro is a lot more worth then the dollar. Europe is a hell lot richer then the US with a lot less debt. There is less difference between rich and poor here. Better Healthcare and social housing. Schools don't cost a fortune a leg a liver and a house here. By 2025 Europe will be nuclear free and i can go on and on and on. Ur not the fucking superpower anymore that you used to be. You're more turning in 2 a third world country with a first world infrastructure. But most of you people being that proud that you fail to see that and Always belittling everyone else and praising yourself to kingdom come.
Your fallacy's are too many to count. By saying 'Europe' you're over generalizing, there are multiple countries within Europe whom of which don't fill your, for arguments sake we'll say 'expectations' whatsoever. America isn't decreasing and bestowing to a '3rd world country' at all, so why you decided to add this in is beyond me,
I'm not even gonna respond to your prententious rambling. You enjoy being a pretentious fuck. Have a good one
Also by witting down to unnecessary and extremely salty flaming, it's a low blow. I hope you're resorting to it because you've finally realized your hippocracy of which I can clearly see throughout your posting. Don't start an unnecessary argument about something, which really shouldn't even be argued over.

Also before you dub me a pretentious fuck, just bear in mind I don't care.
 
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